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    Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

    Khuda is the Persian word for the idols which they worship, and Hafiz comes from the Arabic root word hifz meaning "protection". So literally, means "May the (Persian idols) be your Guardian." They worship these idols even presently in Iran and other places. And when you say Hafiz
    (protect) with it, you mean May Khuda (the Persian idols) protect you.

    So insha-allah lets stop saying as such, and instead say Allah Hafiz.
    Last edited by Abu Suhayb; 14-07-10, 04:41 PM.
    "And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster. Surah Luqman:18

    #2
    Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

    saying as-salaamu 'alaikum is infinitely better!

    i thought khuda just meant god..hmm
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      #3
      Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

      If i am not wrong in parsi then khuda= Khud- ah
      Khud= by own
      ah= exist.

      Existing by own.

      Kudah.
      صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
      Al-Muslimeen

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        #4
        Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

        It is not wrong until you don't involve it in ibadah.

        Like we say namaz, it is nothing wrong in it like we say worship.

        Similairly some say god, there is nothing wrong in it.

        But including it in ibadah is wrong.
        صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
        Al-Muslimeen

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          #5
          Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

          regardless of what it means etc, its best not to say it, as there is no basis for saying it.
          The Muslim greeting for which we are rewarded for saying is Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuhu. there is no reward in saying khuda hafiz and allah hafiz, not to mention many people mutilate
          even that to Khudafiz and allahfiz.
          The enforcement of Muslim Brotherhood is the greatest social ideal of Islam. On it was based the Prophet's (SAW) sermon on his last pilgrimage, and Islam cannot be completely realized until this ideal is achieved. '
          (Shaikh Maulana Muhammad Yusuf)
          In Lam Takun Ghaadiban Annee Falaa Ubaalee...

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            #6
            Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

            proof that khuda means idols or is an idol?

            i think we have this debate every month

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              #7
              Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

              Originally posted by Ibn Sina View Post
              proof that khuda means idols or is an idol?
              Wikipedia says this:

              Khuda or Khoda ( خدا ) is the Persian word for "Lord" or "(monotheistic) God", formerly used of Ahura Mazda, today mostly of God in Islam by Persian speakers, and as a loanword also by speakers of Hindi and Urdu. The term is originally from a Middle Persian honorific.

              The term derives from Middle Iranian xvatay, xwadag meaning "lord", "ruler", "master" (written as Parthian kwdy, Middle Persian kwdy, Sogdian kwdy, etc.). It is the Middle Iranian reflex of Avestan xva-dhata- "self-defined; autocrat", an epithet of Ahura Mazda.. Sanskrit has the cognate root noun sva-dhā "self-power, inherent power". The Pashto cognate is Khwdai (خدای).

              Prosaic usage is found for example in the Sassanid title katak-xvatay to denote the head of a clan or extended household, or in the title of the 6th century Khwaday Namag "Book of lords", from which the tales of Kayanian kings as found in the Shahnameh ("Book of kings") derive.

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                #8
                Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                Originally posted by Ibn Sina View Post
                proof that khuda means idols or is an idol?
                Never heard of it before though.

                Yes the reward we have for saying assalamualaikum is far better than, but i believe saying when leaving is not prescribed for us.But when you meet someone , before starting a conversation one has to say it isn't it, like not at disclosing or at the end?
                صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
                Al-Muslimeen

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                  #9
                  Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                  When leaving you can say Assalamu Alaikum again, or Fi Aman Allah.
                  The enforcement of Muslim Brotherhood is the greatest social ideal of Islam. On it was based the Prophet's (SAW) sermon on his last pilgrimage, and Islam cannot be completely realized until this ideal is achieved. '
                  (Shaikh Maulana Muhammad Yusuf)
                  In Lam Takun Ghaadiban Annee Falaa Ubaalee...

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                    #10
                    Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                    saying as-salaamu 'alaikum is infinitely better!

                    i thought khuda just meant god..hmm
                    yeah its the name for the idols, its attributed to the idols. So in effect the say the idols are their Khuda (god).
                    Last edited by Abu Suhayb; 14-07-10, 04:32 PM.
                    "And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster. Surah Luqman:18

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                      #11
                      Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                      Originally posted by KeeKee View Post
                      When leaving you can say Assalamu Alaikum again, or Fi Aman Allah.
                      and what is the basis of saying "Fi Aman Allah"?

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                        #12
                        Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                        Originally posted by Abu Suhayb View Post
                        yeah its the name for the idols, its attributed to the idols. So in effect the say the idols are their Khuda (god).
                        Idols are made by hand, how can one attribute the word khuda to idols is out of agreement.
                        صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
                        Al-Muslimeen

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                          #13
                          Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                          interesting thread.

                          Khuda hafiz
                          Rajab is a month of cultivation, Shaban is month of irrigating the fields, and the month of Ramadhan is a month of reaping and harvesting.”

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                            #14
                            Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                            Originally posted by Medievalist View Post
                            interesting thread.

                            Khuda hafiz
                            LOL..hahaha.. :D
                            صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
                            Al-Muslimeen

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                              #15
                              Re: Say Allah-Hafiz But Not Khuda-Hafiz

                              The worshippers of fire in Persian used mainly, Its not wrong to say Allah hafiz. coz like i said hafiz is from the arabic word hifz meaning protection, so by say Allah isntead of khuda in addition to hafiz it would be May Allah protect u.
                              "And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster. Surah Luqman:18

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