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    #46
    Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

    Originally posted by hamza89 View Post
    complete an utter rubbish that is being spread by these people about wahabism, and all this stuff that people are nowadays labellening wahabism.

    i am no Arab i am SOmali but i have lived in many parts of the muslim world the and nearly a decade in the hijaz. i have heard more takfir from the jordanina and lebanese sufis than i have heard in my ten years in Saudi Arabia
    Asalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

    I never named any countries, I'm just telling you what I hear in my country of England, and what I see from recorded lectures by Salafi's on the internet and television.

    I also am just quoting hadith as I said. This is not any reason to attack me still.

    (edit)

    Also, I do not distinguish from who makes Takfir. I have made a thread where I denounce Takfir of all kinds.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...tnah-of-Takfir
    The Fitnah of Takfir

    I think, Hamza89, that you haven't read this whole thread, so you have taken something out of context and misunderstood what I said and meant, what you quoted was only a response I made to the other brother's comment.
    Last edited by AlayhisSalaam; 01-03-10, 12:52 PM.
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    O ye who believe! Let not some among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former) Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, after he has believed: And those who do not desist are doing wrong. (QURAN, Sura Hujurat, 49:11)

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      #47
      Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

      Originally posted by Muqarrib View Post
      STOP CREATING DIVISION & FITNA, YOU IGNORANT SUFI


      You know you really are some piece of work. You claim to be learning about purifying your heart, loving you brothers in Islam, not judging anyone and here you are putting up post after post about how Muhammad ib Abdal-Wahhab and the Wahhabis/Salafis are evil. And now you are posting Fitna causing accusations, calling them Khawarij and Hizbus-Shaytaan.

      Pretty soon you will be openly making Takfir on them.

      Your ENTIRE thread and your other posts are full of contradictions. You follow your Nafs and post whatever bias you have. AND YOU ARE CREATING FITNA & DIVISION. Some Sufi you are.

      As to my knowledge, All the groups in the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah - the Madhabis (Shaafis, Hanafis, etc.), the Deobandis, the Tablighis, etc have never issued a Fatwa branding the Salafis to be Khawarij or Hizbus Shaytaan. And consider the Salafis to be PART of Ahlus Sunnah.

      Yes, we have our differences among the various groups in the Ahlus Sunnah - but our differences are on Fiqh matters only.


      Just shows the Venom & Resentment you hardcore Sufis have against the Salafis for throwing you guys out of the Hijaz. You guys have been reduced to the fringe of this Ummah - bunch of nobodys.

      While the Salafis & regular Madhabis have taken the leadership of this Ummah and are doing their part in Dawah & Jihad. How many wonderful Salafis have gone on to sacrifice their families & themselves, and died as Shaheeds. But I suppose they are all Khawrij & Hizbus Shaytaan to you.


      All I can say is I hope you have enough good deeds in your account, in case you are held accountable by Allah for ALL that you have written/posted against Muhammad ibn Abdal-Wahhab and branding an ENTIRE group of Muslims from the Ahlus Sunnah as Khawarij & Hizbus Shaytaan.

      Congratulations on your excellent character, love for your fellow Muslims and have fun on the DOJ. :up:
      I will not even reply to all your points but how can you say he is dividing the ummah and then you go and call him "you sufi", is that a bit hypocritical, do you think?

      brother, why dont you provide your opinion from a scholar if you know any on the hadith as the OP has asked, if you dont have that opinion just ignore it then, all he has asked to is elaborate on the hadith if you know anythign, I dont know any scholars that talked about this so I cant say anything on that, that is all you have to do, there is no need to assume that he wants to divide the ummah.
      Also bear in mind that he is a new muslim and does not know all the terms, when he uses a term like khawarij he may not know all the history of it that you are so readily accusing him of all sorts of things Hijaz etc How do you know he has anythign to do with them?
      then you talk about day of judgement with so much assurance, SubhanAllah

      have fun on DOJ? this is shocking to say the least, is that how a muslim behaves towards another muslim, even towards a non-muslim you should not mock because that non-muslim may be shining in day of judgemnt and you may be covered in sweat, why dont you pray for your brother if you believe he is in the wrong, why dont you pray Allah forgives him and he is at ease in day of judgement, subhanAllah, this is most disapointing to hear from muslims toward another
      " O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing. "
      Surah An-Nur, Verse 21

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        #48
        Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

        Originally posted by IDK View Post
        I will not even reply to all your points but how can you say he is dividing the ummah and then you go and call him "you sufi", is that a bit hypocritical, do you think?

        brother, why dont you provide your opinion from a scholar if you know any on the hadith as the OP has asked, if you dont have that opinion just ignore it then, all he has asked to is elaborate on the hadith if you know anythign, I dont know any scholars that talked about this so I cant say anything on that, that is all you have to do, there is no need to assume that he wants to divide the ummah.
        Also bear in mind that he is a new muslim and does not know all the terms, when he uses a term like khawarij he may not know all the history of it that you are so readily accusing him of all sorts of things Hijaz etc How do you know he has anythign to do with them?
        then you talk about day of judgement with so much assurance, SubhanAllah

        have fun on DOJ? this is shocking to say the least, is that how a muslim behaves towards another muslim, even towards a non-muslim you should not mock because that non-muslim may be shining in day of judgemnt and you may be covered in sweat, why dont you pray for your brother if you believe he is in the wrong, why dont you pray Allah forgives him and he is at ease in day of judgement, subhanAllah, this is most disapointing to hear from muslims toward another
        Asalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

        I'm not a scholar, but neither is anyone else in this thread.

        However, in regards to Khwarijite, I linked this thread http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...tnah-of-Takfir and that was not my own saying, but a quote that I took from a scholar who spoke of this subject.

        So, as I said, I have only been quoting Hadith and scholars, but then I am attacked. Inshallah read this whole thread and you can respond to individual hadiths and scholarly opinions with your own hadith and scholarly opinions, but if you don't bring evidence then why should anyone listen to you or think that you are right when you are acting in an unIslamic manner?

        Wasalaam
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        O ye who believe! Let not some among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former) Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, after he has believed: And those who do not desist are doing wrong. (QURAN, Sura Hujurat, 49:11)

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          #49
          Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

          @AlayhisSalam

          it is surprising when all the time I hear people say "bring your proof, bring your proof" even for things which are common knowledge, but then I see nobody that accused you bring any proof with their accusations, subhanAllah, perhaps this is why people are confused
          " O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing. "
          Surah An-Nur, Verse 21

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            #50
            Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

            What a stupid thread.

            This thread should be deleted.

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              #51
              Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

              Originally posted by IDK View Post
              yes I dont know which mujahideen you are refering to but I know they used to say about bosnian muslims who died in the war while fighting, they used to say their fighting was in vain because they faught for country and not Allah and they did not die as martyrs, that surely comes in great contradiction with majority of poeple, which is when someone attacks your home and your wife and children you defend yourselves and your community and die as a result then that is martyrdom, what is the poor man to do?

              This is why i find some of their views extreme, where for example everything has to be done for the sake of Allah conciously in your head, but some people cannot do that all the time, its not natural, if you are dying while defending your wife or child then that is martyrdom very simple

              when the prophet said about a mother who dies because of childbirth is a martyr, did he say only if she did it for the sake of Allah...astaghfirullah, this is how I think shaytan leads us astray in very subtle matters whch we think are good

              Somalia is full of Khawarjis (Al-Shabab) who killing muslims because they believe they are the "ONLY TRUE MUSLIMS" and they bomb, and cut heads and limbs of humans for fun. May Allah protect from us from these fake mujahideen Ameen.

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                #52
                Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                Originally posted by ahaneefah View Post
                What a stupid thread.

                This thread should be deleted.
                lol how is the thread stupid?

                is any question stupid? the prophet saws did not think so

                I am curious also to see any commentary on the above hadith, I am curious about everything in Islam, alhamduliAllah, Allah has made my seeking knowledge easy because He has given me curiousity :)
                " O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing. "
                Surah An-Nur, Verse 21

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                  #53
                  Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                  Originally posted by Cascades View Post
                  Somalia is full of Khawarjis (Al-Shabab) who killing muslims because they believe they are the "ONLY TRUE MUSLIMS" and they bomb, and cut heads and limbs of humans for fun. May Allah protect from us from these fake mujahideen Ameen.
                  Where is the proof? And when the faasiq told you this, how did you verify it?

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                    #54
                    Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                    Originally posted by IDK View Post
                    lol how is the thread stupid?

                    is any question stupid? the prophet saws did not think so

                    I am curious also to see any commentary on the above hadith, I am curious about everything in Islam, alhamduliAllah, Allah has made my seeking knowledge easy because He has given me curiousity :)
                    It is very stupid especially if it comes from the Superman Nazim and his mawreeeds. To clarify misconceptions read this article:

                    The Hadith of Najd
                    by Brother Abū Rumaysah
                    http://www.islaam.net



                    The Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said,
                    "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."
                    Reported in al-Bukhaaree [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]


                    A hadeeth which has some controversy surrounding it due to obvious sectarian reasons. A hadeeth which has been (deliberately) misunderstood by certain groups of people in order that they may spread their misguidance and deceive ignorant Muslims.


                    This because upon research and investigation and looking to the words of our early scholars we find that this hadeeth does not refer to the Najd that is famously known in Saudi today, but rather it refers to Iraaq.


                    About two years ago I read a book entirely devoted to this hadeeth entitled, "an-Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan" [I cannot remember the author as I do not have the book on me anymore.] I will quote in general from what I remember from this book, and refrain from mentioning precise quotes except from those references that I have on me.


                    Amongst the scholars that are mentioned who referred this hadeeth to Iraaq were: al-Khattaabee, al-Kirmaanee, al-Aynee, an-Nawawee, ibn Hajr and others. The reasons behind this are numerous and clear:



                    The Generality of the Hadeeth Pertaining to the Fitna Coming from the East.
                    Al-Bukhaaree includes this hadeeth in the chapter: "The affliction will appear from the East"


                    212) From the father of Saalim: The Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, stood up besides the pulpit (and pointed towards the east) and said: "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there! From where appears the horn of Satan" or he said, "the horn of the Sun"

                    213) From ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alyahi wa sallam, saying while facing the east: "Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan."

                    214) The hadeeth of Najd under discussion.

                    Similar hadeeth can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 4 no.'s. 6938+). Hadeeth that give the same meaning can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 1 no.'s 83+)



                    That the Generality of the Early Trials and Tribulations arose from the East, many of them actually in Iraaq itself.

                    Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said after quoting the words of al-Khattaabee explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn), "and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose, arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction." [Fath al-Baaree 13/58 in commentary to the hadeeth of Najd]


                    Amongst the trials that arose in Iraaq and the east was the martyrdom of Alee, the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, the first battle between the Muslims occurred in Iraaq, and many more.

                    Imaam Nawawee mentions that one of the greatest trials to appear from the East will be the appearance of the Dajjaal. [Sharh Saheeh Muslim 2/29]

                    From the innovations that appeared in the east and specifically Iraaq, was many of the early deviant sects amongst them the Qadariyyah (as the first hadeeth in Muslim shows), the Jahmiyyah and their offshoots etc...

                    That at the time of the Prophet, sallaahu alayhis wa sallaam, there were 13 places known as Najd [according to 'Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan'] depending on where one was. This because Najd linguistically means a raised/elevated land. Therefore the Arabs referred to lands that were elevated with respect to them as Najd. One of the most commonly referred to areas at that time as Najd was Iraaq.





                    The Najd for those people living in Madeenah in the direction of the East would be Iraaq.


                    Ibn Hajr said: "al-Khattaabee said: 'the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madeenah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraaq and it's regions [baadiya al-Iraaq wa Nawaaheehaa] for this is to the east of the People of Madeenah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihaamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihaamah.'"


                    Ibn Hajr continues, "by this [saying of al-Khattaabee] the weakness of the saying of ad-Daawodee is understood that 'Najd is in the direction of Iraaq' [min Naahiya al-Iraaq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr." [Fath al-Baaree 13/58-59]


                    Al-Mubaarakfooree endorses these words in his commentary to Sunan at-Tirmidhee (10/314 no.4212)



                    The Hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim [4/1505 no.6943]


                    Saalim bin Abdullaah bin Umar said: O people of Iraaq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullaah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, saying while pointing his hand to the east: "Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another..."



                    The Variations in Wording of the Hadeeth of Najd that Leave no Doubt Whatsoever as to what it refers to.


                    The hadeeth of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu'aym in al-Hilya (6/133), "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Shaam, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa'inaa wa muddinaa)." A person said, " O Messenger of Allaah and in our Iraaq" and so he turned away from him and said, "there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan."


                    Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut declares it's isnaad to be saheeh as in his footnotes to 'Sharh as-Sunnah' (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattaabee quoted above.


                    The hadeeth of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' that the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our Shaam and our Yemen." A person said, "And Iraaq O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves."


                    Ibn Hajr al-Haythamee says in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (3/305 - chapter 'collection of du'aas made for (Madeenah)'): 'its narrators are trustworthy and precise.'


                    [This hadeeth could possibly considered to be the same as b) above, but I have included it separately due to the slight difference in wording. Allaah knows best.]


                    The hadeeth of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Kabeer' that the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, supplicated and said, "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam and Yemen." A person from amongst the people said, "O Prophet of Allaah and Iraaq?" He said, "indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed harshness/coarseness is in the east."


                    Al-Haythamee says: "it's narrators are trustworthy and precise." (ibid.)



                    The Virtues of Bani Tameem


                    Bani Tameem constitute the majority of the inhabitants of the Najd that is in Saudi Arabia.


                    The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): "I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said about them. I heard him saying, 'these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.' When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk." Aa'ishah had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa'ishah, 'manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa'eel, alayhis salaam.'"


                    [Hadeeth no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath] Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said, "this hadeeth also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem." [Fath 5/217]


                    The hadeeth of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, "do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal."


                    Al-Haythamee says: "its narrators are those of the Saheeh." [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem]


                    It is not strange that Bani Tameem would be the most severe against the Dajjaal, because the tools required to combat him are none but a correct and firm belief and proper beneficial knowledge. Alhumdolillaah many of the scholars of Saudi are from the most noble and skilled scholars on the face of this earth today, firmly upon the way of our noble Messenger, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam.


                    This is what Allaah has allowed me to very quickly put together. And our Lord Most High Knows best.

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                      #55
                      Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                      Al-Ayni Al-Hanafi wrote about Najd:

                      وفي نجدنا قال اللهم بارك لنا في شأمنا اللهم بارك لنا في يمننا قالوا يا رسول الله وفي نجدنا فأظنه قال في الثالثة هناك الزلازل والفتن وبها يطلع قرن الشيطان
                      انظر الحديث 1037
                      مطابقته للترجمة في قوله وهناك الزلازل والفتن وبها يطلع قرن الشيطان وأشار بقوله هناك إلى نجد ونجد من المشرق قال الخطابي نجد من جهة المشرق ومن كان بالمدينة كان نجده بادية العراق ونواحيها وهي مشرق أهل المدينة وأصل النجد ما ارتفع من الأرض وهو خلاف الغور فإنه ما انخفض منها وتهامة كلها من الغور ومكة من تهامة اليمن
                      So Najd for Madinah is region of Iraq and close to it...

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                        #56
                        Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                        Originally posted by ahaneefah View Post
                        It is very stupid especially if it comes from the Superman Nazim and his mawreeeds. To clarify misconceptions read this article:
                        ok JazakAllahu khair, it is nice that finally someone posted something on the hadith

                        brother stop wtih the name calling, the OP has apologised for posting about Nazim and does not follow him, he is a new muslim and for a time considered what he said, why are you so hostile towards one another
                        " O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing. "
                        Surah An-Nur, Verse 21

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                          #57
                          Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                          Originally posted by ahaneefah View Post
                          Where is the proof? And when the faasiq told you this, how did you verify it?
                          What faasiq are you talking about my relatives live there and seen with their own eyes them shooting, cutting limbs, raping, girls of anyone who disagree with them, one of my uncles died in a explosion done by them speically targeting him, in a hotel in Hiiraan and said he was kafir because he was part of the goverment (and yes they told they media it was them so dont ask me about proof), by the way its my parents home town, ask somalis who live there dont believe stupid media. The are calling muslims kafirs even though they are real muslims. Somalia is 100% muslim just incase you didnt know. So why doing Jihad and sucide bombings on innocent hungry muslims anyway. Isnt this all about power and wealth, rather than helping the ummah?. Even if you dont think they are Khawarjis, they are may be worser than khawrjis i'll tell you that. So dont start supporting fake mujahiddens please..... they dont know what humanity means.

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                            #58
                            Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                            Saalim bin Abdullaah bin Umar said: O people of Iraaq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullaah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, saying while pointing his hand to the east: "Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another..."

                            ok I am curious about this because the group I was in used to scrutinise me about minor things such as cutting nails and plucking eyebrows but at the same time they were lying and also treating their mother badly, now I understand we all sin, but that one thing I always used to wonder and get upset about why my nails should matter when you call your mother bad names, I know these individuals people everywhere but it is sad how shaytan can use someone this way
                            " O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing. "
                            Surah An-Nur, Verse 21

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                              #59
                              Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                              TO AS:

                              You bringing up ahadith, but have you ever read it's Sharh by classical scholars like Imam Ibn Hajar or Imam Nawawi?

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                                #60
                                Re: Hadiths on Najd (Wahabism)

                                Originally posted by Cascades View Post
                                What faasiq are you talking about my relatives live there and seen with their own eyes them shooting, cutting limbs, raping, girls of anyone who disagree with them, one of my uncles died in a explosion done by them speically targeting him, in a hotel in Hiiraan and said he was kafir because he was part of the goverment (and yes they told they media it was them so dont ask me about proof), by the way its my parents home town, ask somalis who live there dont believe stupid media. The are calling muslims kafirs even though they are real muslims. Somalia is 100% muslim just incase you didnt know. So why doing Jihad and sucide bombings on innocent hungry muslims anyway. Isnt this all about power and wealth, rather than helping the ummah?. Even if you dont think they are Khawarjis, they are may be worser than khawrjis i'll tell you that. So dont start supporting fake mujahiddens please..... they dont know what humanity means.
                                i know people who are down there and i have been hearing the same kind of things.... allah knows best what is going on there.
                                "They are Shuhadaa (witnesses) to the fact that this Deen is greater than life, that values are more important than blood and that principles are more precious than souls" - Sheikh 'Abdullah Azzam

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