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    The status of discussions on ummah

    :salams

    What do you think about the state of discussions on ummah?

    While looking at threads, it seems like the same thing always happens when there's some sort of discussion of sorts. Some says something, someone immediately disagrees, or misunderstands, and lack of adab ends up getting displayed

    I dunno about you guys, but it does make me wary of entering some threads or partaking in some threads, since it almost feels like there's no point.

    I think we have a problem where we don't really listen to one another, nor do we have patience to hear a different view from our own. Instead of accepting different views or even helping one another, we'd rather argue, defame, and attack each other.

    This has always been a problem here, but it seems to be getting worse and worse lately. (I do understand that this could also be due to the fact that I've been here too long and stuff)

    Anywhootieandtheblowfish, what sort of things can be done to combat this?

    Or do you think this is even a problem to begin with?
    مَّن ذَا الَّذِي يُقْرِضُ اللّهَ قَرْضًا حَسَنًا فَيُضَاعِفَهُ لَهُ أَضْعَافًا كَثِيرَةً وَاللّهُ يَقْبِضُ وَيَبْسُطُ وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ

    "Who is he that will loan to Allah a beautiful loan, which Allah will double unto his credit and multiply many times?
    It is Allah that giveth (you) Want or plenty, and to Him shall be your return."
    Surah al-Baqarah
    [2:245]

    .:.
    .:. Perfer et Obdura : Dolor Hic Tibi Proderit Olim .:.
    Be patient and strong : someday this pain will be useful to you

    .:.
    ...said the spider to the fly...

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    Re: The status of discussions on ummah

    :wswrwb:

    I thought people have been more laid back lately.
    Narrated Anas:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself." [Bukhari]

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      #3
      Re: The status of discussions on ummah

      Which section does this happen in, mostly?
      “Mix with the noble people, you become one of them; and keep away from evil people so that you protect yourself from their evils.”


      Hadhrat Ali (Radiallahu anhu)

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        #4
        Re: The status of discussions on ummah

        Originally posted by Pippin1376 View Post
        :salams

        What do you think about the state of discussions on ummah?

        While looking at threads, it seems like the same thing always happens when there's some sort of discussion of sorts. Some says something, someone immediately disagrees, or misunderstands, and lack of adab ends up getting displayed

        I dunno about you guys, but it does make me wary of entering some threads or partaking in some threads, since it almost feels like there's no point.

        I think we have a problem where we don't really listen to one another, nor do we have patience to hear a different view from our own. Instead of accepting different views or even helping one another, we'd rather argue, defame, and attack each other.

        This has always been a problem here, but it seems to be getting worse and worse lately. (I do understand that this could also be due to the fact that I've been here too long and stuff)

        Anywhootieandtheblowfish, what sort of things can be done to combat this?

        Or do you think this is even a problem to begin with?
        :wswrwb:

        The issue is simple it's the same users and the same mods, mulling over the same benign nonsense (99% of the threads anyway). If we accept this place is really for people who are not really after anything more than staying on the surface then this place is perfect.

        If however, you think this place offers something else then I think your clientele is a hindrance.

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          #5
          Re: The status of discussions on ummah

          Originally posted by Pippin1376 View Post
          :salams

          What do you think about the state of discussions on ummah?

          While looking at threads, it seems like the same thing always happens when there's some sort of discussion of sorts. Some says something, someone immediately disagrees, or misunderstands, and lack of adab ends up getting displayed

          I dunno about you guys, but it does make me wary of entering some threads or partaking in some threads, since it almost feels like there's no point.

          I think we have a problem where we don't really listen to one another, nor do we have patience to hear a different view from our own. Instead of accepting different views or even helping one another, we'd rather argue, defame, and attack each other.

          This has always been a problem here, but it seems to be getting worse and worse lately. (I do understand that this could also be due to the fact that I've been here too long and stuff)

          Anywhootieandtheblowfish, what sort of things can be done to combat this?

          Or do you think this is even a problem to begin with?
          All I got from this post was you describing a dysfunctional family it's kinda funny though

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            #6
            Re: The status of discussions on ummah

            Originally posted by Abu Jarir View Post
            All I got from this post was you describing a dysfunctional family it's kinda funny though
            That is ummah in a nutshell :)
            مَّن ذَا الَّذِي يُقْرِضُ اللّهَ قَرْضًا حَسَنًا فَيُضَاعِفَهُ لَهُ أَضْعَافًا كَثِيرَةً وَاللّهُ يَقْبِضُ وَيَبْسُطُ وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ

            "Who is he that will loan to Allah a beautiful loan, which Allah will double unto his credit and multiply many times?
            It is Allah that giveth (you) Want or plenty, and to Him shall be your return."
            Surah al-Baqarah
            [2:245]

            .:.
            .:. Perfer et Obdura : Dolor Hic Tibi Proderit Olim .:.
            Be patient and strong : someday this pain will be useful to you

            .:.
            ...said the spider to the fly...

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              #7
              Re: The status of discussions on ummah

              I started using this site 8 months ago actively.

              From what it was then , to what it is now , I must say, I enjoy it much better. I appreciate the effort of brother Abu Abdullaah and Hajar in cleaning and organizing the forum.

              As for the qualities of discussions.. I believe the quality has gotten a little better but it maybe just me and how I am using the site personally.

              I have noticed a decrease in general activity though. I apologise if this comes off rude but I believe it may be due to Abu Abdullaah and Hajar's cleaning which caused some people to not like the restrictions. I have no intent to backbite anyone , but perhaps they came to this site for a specific reason , and now that reason is inaccessible and hence , they no longer use the site.

              Thats my take.

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                #8
                Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                Originally posted by Abu Jarir View Post
                All I got from this post was you describing a dysfunctional family it's kinda funny though
                Haha, quit trolling.

                Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post

                I have noticed a decrease in general activity though. I apologise if this comes off rude but I believe it may be due to Abu Abdullaah and Hajar's cleaning which caused some people to not like the restrictions.
                It's Ramadaan and people are engaged and also busy + lack of interesting discussions on the forum.
                Last edited by Morose; 19-06-17, 09:13 PM.

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                  #9
                  Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                  Originally posted by Morose View Post
                  Haha, quit trolling.



                  It's Ramadaan and people are engaged and also busy + lack of interesting discussions on the forum.
                  I am the troll Amir on this forum let's get that straight right now

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                    #10
                    Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                    Wa aleikum salam

                    I think there is a huge amount of circular discussion and a lack of new, interesting and beneficial discussion.

                    I'm not suggesting that my threads would be any of the above but my reluctance to start discussions is because I've seen where they can develop in an unhealthy way and I feel guilty that I caused that, even though unintentionally.

                    I appreciate Pippins threads. They are thought provoking and often come from a place of self reflection or general Ummah improvement.

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                      #11
                      Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                      [MENTION=3]sajid[/MENTION]

                      I am always here, keeping the forum going.

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                        #12
                        Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                        Originally posted by Morose View Post
                        Haha, quit trolling.



                        It's Ramadaan and people are engaged and also busy + lack of interesting discussions on the forum.
                        Yeah that makes sense too bro. That is definitely true.
                        But also the site was getting less busy from what I noticed but it could be because ramadan was approaching and people were avoiding socialising and the likes.

                        Glad to have this site, thank you guys , I have no other muslims to talk to.

                        If I offended any of you, I apologise.

                        And also I apologise in advance for any future derogatory and mischevuous behaviour. Ramadan is commencing and shayton is coming back :( :( :(

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                          #13
                          Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                          Originally posted by Morose View Post
                          @sajid

                          I am always here, keeping the forum going.
                          Haha

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                            #14
                            Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                            Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post
                            ...Ramadan is commencing...
                            Quit trolling. Ramadaan is nearly concluding :(

                            Originally posted by zi-zizou View Post
                            Haha
                            Rep me bro.

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                              #15
                              Re: The status of discussions on ummah

                              Originally posted by Rifqah View Post
                              Wa aleikum salam

                              I think there is a huge amount of circular discussion and a lack of new, interesting and beneficial discussion.

                              I'm not suggesting that my threads would be any of the above but my reluctance to start discussions is because I've seen where they can develop in an unhealthy way and I feel guilty that I caused that, even though unintentionally.

                              I appreciate Pippins threads. They are thought provoking and often come from a place of self reflection or general Ummah improvement.
                              I think they come from a place similar to "hug a tree" or "hug a hoodie". It has its place but too much of it becomes a bit yucky. Sometimes you need self reflection with time to develop it before being asked to taste something else.

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