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  • #76
    Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

    Originally posted by Dinobot View Post
    None of you believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.

    Would you wish for your brother to be married to a Zaniyah if he is righteous as he raises a child conceived out of zina? A sin so great the penalty is death under shariah.

    I do not have any hope for pippin but I don't think many muslimat hold her crazy views. They have ghayrah for the deen and muslimeen in general.
    I would despise that for myself and for my brother. But you're dodging the question. If you're going to attack her for the views in which she provided evidence, why can't you post evidence to the contrary? Find me a clear fatwa that says the woman must tell. Again, as a husband, I'd want to know of course, but you have yet to provide proof and I don't think you even will.
    ***Reminder- It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that RasulAllah :saw: said: Whoever reads Tabaarak allaathi bi yadihi’l-mulk [i.e., Soorat al-Mulk] every night, Allaah will protect him from the torment of the grave.
    And never think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them for a Day when eyes will stare [in horror]. [Quran, 14:42]

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    • #77
      Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

      Originally posted by Thunder94 View Post
      I would despise that for myself and for my brother. But you're dodging the question. If you're going to attack her for the views in which she provided evidence, why can't you post evidence to the contrary? Find me a clear fatwa that says the woman must tell. Again, as a husband, I'd want to know of course, but you have yet to provide proof and I don't think you even will.
      According to islam you cannot backbite a person. Unless

      if that person is someone who does something sinful and you have to warn people about their evilness. This is the same parable for warning the husband as well. Because his rights have been tarnished this is no longer a private matter where you hide sins from people and keep it between you and Allah.

      A third party has been impunged.

      Look at the hadith below

      Asmaa was married to Zubayr Ibn al-Awwaam, the cousin of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam. He was a very poor man, nevertheless Abu Bakr knew him to be a man of great piety, so despite the huge difference between their financial status, Abu Bakr married his daughter to him. In the initial stages of her marriage, Asmaa has to face a lot of hardship due to the extreme poverty they suffered. Suddenly, this daughter of a rich merchant found herself tending to the animals, kneading, grinding, fetching water and carrying huge loads on her head. She said about her situation: “When az-Zubayr married me, he had neither land, nor wealth, nor slave, nor anything else like it, except a camel to get water and his horse. I used to graze his horse, provide fodder for it, look after it and ground dates for his camel. Besides this, I grazed the camel, made arrangements for providing it with water and patching up his leather bucket and kneading the flour. I was not very good at baking the bread, so my female neighbors used to bake bread for me and they were sincere women. And I used to carry on my head, the date-stones from the land of az-Zubayr which the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam had endowed him and it was a distance of two miles from Madeenah. One day, as o was carrying the date-stones upon my head, I happened to meet Allaah’s Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, along with a group of his Companions. He called me and told the camel to sit down so that he could make me ride behind him. I felt shy to go with men and I remembered az-Zubayr and his Gheerah (Gheerah is the sense of pride that a man has which causes him to dislike his wives, daughters or sisters from being seen or heard by strangers. It is this gheerah which makes a man protective about his women) and he was a man having the most gheerah. The Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam understood my shyness and left. I came to az-Zubayr and said: “The Messenger of Allaah met me as I was carrying date-stones upon my head and there was with him a group of his Companions. He told the camel to kneel so that I could mount it but I felt shy from him and I remembered your gheerah.” Upon this az-Zubayr said: “By Allaah, the thought of you carrying date-stones upon your head is more severe a burden to me than you riding with him.”


      Look at the sense of dignity and modesty of Asmaa. See how she felt shy in front of men? See how careful she was about refraining from what displeased her husband? She knew that az-Zubayr had a lot of gheerah, so she didn’t want to upset him by accepting the Prophet’s offer of assistance, even though that meant bringing hardship upon herself. And what did az-Zubayr say when he heard of what had happened that day?…’By Allaah, the thought of you carrying date-stones is more severe a burden on me than you riding with him!” so even though az-Zubayr had a lot of gheerah, he did not wish for that to cause inconvenience to his wife. Isn’t this what the marital relationship should be like? One of mutual concern, corporation and compassion? Asmaa could easily have said: “I am the daughter of the noble Abu Bakr and so I shouldn’t be doing these jobs!” but she didn’t. she was patient and respectful towards her husband throughout her difficult period


      May Allah give us more women like asma amongst muslimeen and less people like pippin and those who flock to her on this forum

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      • #78
        Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

        Originally posted by Dinobot View Post
        According to islam you cannot backbite a person. Unless

        if that person is someone who does something sinful and you have to warn people about their evilness. This is the same parable for warning the husband as well. Because his rights have been tarnished this is no longer a private matter where you hide sins from people and keep it between you and Allah.

        A third party has been impunged.

        Look at the hadith below

        Asmaa was married to Zubayr Ibn al-Awwaam, the cousin of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam. He was a very poor man, nevertheless Abu Bakr knew him to be a man of great piety, so despite the huge difference between their financial status, Abu Bakr married his daughter to him. In the initial stages of her marriage, Asmaa has to face a lot of hardship due to the extreme poverty they suffered. Suddenly, this daughter of a rich merchant found herself tending to the animals, kneading, grinding, fetching water and carrying huge loads on her head. She said about her situation: “When az-Zubayr married me, he had neither land, nor wealth, nor slave, nor anything else like it, except a camel to get water and his horse. I used to graze his horse, provide fodder for it, look after it and ground dates for his camel. Besides this, I grazed the camel, made arrangements for providing it with water and patching up his leather bucket and kneading the flour. I was not very good at baking the bread, so my female neighbors used to bake bread for me and they were sincere women. And I used to carry on my head, the date-stones from the land of az-Zubayr which the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam had endowed him and it was a distance of two miles from Madeenah. One day, as o was carrying the date-stones upon my head, I happened to meet Allaah’s Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, along with a group of his Companions. He called me and told the camel to sit down so that he could make me ride behind him. I felt shy to go with men and I remembered az-Zubayr and his Gheerah (Gheerah is the sense of pride that a man has which causes him to dislike his wives, daughters or sisters from being seen or heard by strangers. It is this gheerah which makes a man protective about his women) and he was a man having the most gheerah. The Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam understood my shyness and left. I came to az-Zubayr and said: “The Messenger of Allaah met me as I was carrying date-stones upon my head and there was with him a group of his Companions. He told the camel to kneel so that I could mount it but I felt shy from him and I remembered your gheerah.” Upon this az-Zubayr said: “By Allaah, the thought of you carrying date-stones upon your head is more severe a burden to me than you riding with him.”


        Look at the sense of dignity and modesty of Asmaa. See how she felt shy in front of men? See how careful she was about refraining from what displeased her husband? She knew that az-Zubayr had a lot of gheerah, so she didn’t want to upset him by accepting the Prophet’s offer of assistance, even though that meant bringing hardship upon herself. And what did az-Zubayr say when he heard of what had happened that day?…’By Allaah, the thought of you carrying date-stones is more severe a burden on me than you riding with him!” so even though az-Zubayr had a lot of gheerah, he did not wish for that to cause inconvenience to his wife. Isn’t this what the marital relationship should be like? One of mutual concern, corporation and compassion? Asmaa could easily have said: “I am the daughter of the noble Abu Bakr and so I shouldn’t be doing these jobs!” but she didn’t. she was patient and respectful towards her husband throughout her difficult period


        May Allah give us more women like asma amongst muslimeen and less people like pippin and those who flock to her on this forum
        So you couldn't bring forth a fatwa but will continue on with calling out someone for bringing forth one. As I thought....
        ***Reminder- It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that RasulAllah :saw: said: Whoever reads Tabaarak allaathi bi yadihi’l-mulk [i.e., Soorat al-Mulk] every night, Allaah will protect him from the torment of the grave.
        And never think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them for a Day when eyes will stare [in horror]. [Quran, 14:42]

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        • #79
          Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

          Originally posted by shay5 View Post
          I have heard people say this and also read it in a fatwa but they provided no proof. Is this true? Does the husband also bear the sin if she does not observe hijab?



          What does that verse mean?
          He bears the Sin if he does not remind and warn his wife constantly that it is a Serious Sin if she does not wear the Hijaab,

          such a Man is a Dayyuth,

          If however, the Man has warned and reminded his wife and constantly reminds her of her obligation, then he won't bear the Sin,

          to be honest this whole issue is redundant if he married a Pious sister in the first place,

          :jkk:
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          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

          – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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          • #80
            Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

            I love how quick people are to throw the word divorce around, as if its no big deal
            So many people, especially of this generation are struggling to even find a spouse but apparently if when they eventually get married the spouse becomes disobedient you might seek divorce as a last option, really? Is it going to be that easy? I suppose it is, getting divorced is the easy part, trying to remarry a 2nd time around is going to be the hard part... especially when the first question all your potentials will want to know is how a devout Muslim came to be divorced.

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            • #81
              Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

              Originally posted by ambaap View Post
              I love how quick people are to throw the word divorce around, as if its no big deal
              So many people, especially of this generation are struggling to even find a spouse but apparently if when they eventually get married the spouse becomes disobedient you might seek divorce as a last option, really? Is it going to be that easy? I suppose it is, getting divorced is the easy part, trying to remarry a 2nd time around is going to be the hard part... especially when the first question all your potentials will want to know is how a devout Muslim came to be divorced.

              Divorcing someone who bluntly disobey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa's) law after so many times in fear normalizing it is not hasty or easy. Look at it in the long term. If it is easy for her to disobey Allah's (Subhanahu Wa Talaa's) law and not care...how much of a good wife will she be to her husband and obey him when he tells her something? Remember...it is the wife that directs the children how they react and treat their father. If the wife is bad the children will treat their father bad. It is that easy. No necessarily all the time....but it is the majority. So if she disobey's Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa's) law(s) she will be wicked to her husband and if she is wicked to her husband the children will be wicked to their father. Uhh...what man wants to stay married to someone who disobey Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa's) laws willingly and live a wicked and evil life?
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              • #82
                Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

                I think the biggest issues are

                1. brothers are marrying non- hijabi sisters with the hope that they will change
                2. it is not an issue that is discussed properly before marriage and the man does not make it clear that he wants her to (although she should not wear it for him anyway)
                3. In the marriage she is confused because he was happy to marry her as she was and now he wants to pressurise her to change
                4. If she does not want to wear hijab out of fear of Allah, then how can you expect her to where it out of respect for you?

                You can advise and remind her continuously but at the end of the day you married her as she is so now you are in no position to judge.

                Choose your spouses wisely.

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                • #83
                  Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

                  Originally posted by Thunder94 View Post
                  So you couldn't bring forth a fatwa but will continue on with calling out someone for bringing forth one. As I thought....
                  I don't need a fatwa for common sense thinking. If I am allowed to warn people because they are evil to people then I am allowed to warn a husband that his wife has been unfaithful to him.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Is the husband also sinning if his wife does not wear the hijab?

                    Originally posted by shay5 View Post
                    I have heard people say this and also read it in a fatwa but they provided no proof. Is this true? Does the husband also bear the sin if she does not observe hijab?



                    What does that verse mean?
                    Do you already have the answer? would love to know it.. cant find it myself

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