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  • #31
    Re: Is not being experienced a problem

    Originally posted by quark View Post
    All of that is nonsense. Warm and fuzzy? Come on. Someone can love someone solely based on looks for years.
    Then i hope i dont end up with that person, im very emotional
    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

    O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

    Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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    • #32
      Re: Is not being experienced a problem

      The solution for these men is to go for a retreat, in a cave, for a year and then come out to get married

      I am sure it is possible for 'inexperienced' people to appreciate marriage and realise it's more than intimacy, they can't all be stupid and hungry.
      'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

      So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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      • #33
        Re: Is not being experienced a problem

        Originally posted by Silent being View Post
        I'm curious now...
        curiosity killed the cat :cat:

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        • #34
          Re: Is not being experienced a problem

          Originally posted by .mirror. View Post
          Man with Jahiliiyah who has slept around with multiple girls is not gross?
          Are you judging reverts here, cus then u havent met OP yet

          I feel likenporn addiction is something a man can easily pick back up whereas i would be the replacement for previous relationships, but not for porn if that makes more sense
          يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

          O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

          Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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          • #35
            Re: Is not being experienced a problem

            Originally posted by quark View Post
            "jahailiyya" is basically code for having committed zina, if I understand you correctly. What exactly makes you think there exists fornicators who don't watch porn? Your plans are wholly unrealistic because you have no idea what you're talking about or how men function in general.
            I'm starting to feel as if i know better then you do
            يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

            O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

            Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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            • #36
              Re: Is not being experienced a problem

              Originally posted by aynina View Post
              Then i hope i dont end up with that person, im very emotional
              I'd take "infatuation" over the love you're describing, which sounds more like bowel problems if you ask me.

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              • #37
                Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                Sis you don't need to solve this. 'Experience' as interpreted from OP has little to nothing to do with the way a man will treat a future spouse in the future except for maybe a case by case thing like the brother said earlier, where one's experience may have changed their view.

                There are non Muslims who never date, never drink alcohol, and either don't have the opportunity to do so or don't want to for whatever reason they choose, regardless of belief system,and the same goes for Muslims. Then you get Muslims and non Muslims (both always) who will fool around like there's no tomorrow. But a person, Muslim or not may have never been involved with the opposite gender for a variety of reasons, it's not always an issue or morality or religion for some people...it just doesn't happen sometimes. But it doesn't guarantee they will have the right mindset or will display proper treatment of women or their future wives in general. Anyone even religious people who strive could have had a past of watching inappropriate material online, etc or can have internalized portrayals of treatment of women or ideas of marriage (like the normality of cheating as portrayed by the media) by media outlet (TV shows,etc) or even seeing their elders like parents, etc and the relationship that occurred between them. Experience here shouldn't really be a person's past involvement or lack of involvement with the opposite gender, it should be the environment a person grew up in or was surrounded by and the ideas often promoted regarding the opposite gender and a person's own circumstances (example: in a medicine program a guy could be too busy to get involved with someone etc but doesn't mean he is necessarily gonna treat his wife well in the future- just an example of a imaginary scenario though), etc.

                Experience would need to be redefined here, to mean life experiences but not necessarily experience regarding involvement with the opposite gender and examples of upright men shouldn't be analyzed by whether they had a past or not...it's really a lot more than that, but this is all my opinion. I really know nothing tbh.
                Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.

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                • #38
                  Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                  [MENTION=119080]zantz[/MENTION] [MENTION=36228]Simply_Logical[/MENTION] yallah...

                  If you mean self pleasuring thats not a solution as well, the guys i refer to in op are defs already into that if not addicted
                  يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

                  O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

                  Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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                  • #39
                    Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                    meh i agree with what you are saying. i mean who really buys it when a 21 year old kid says he wants to get married for any reason other than the obvious... c'mon, which 21 year old want to get married for any reason other than s*x?

                    its incredibly admirable that he is waiting until marriage of course before doing it but the sad fact is as a result they don't look for piety much, at that age its 'do i fancy her, does she want to marry me - thats enough' rather than 'are we compatible and does she have piety too'...

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                    • #40
                      Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                      Originally posted by aynina View Post
                      Are you judging reverts here, cus then u havent met OP yet

                      I feel likenporn addiction is something a man can easily pick back up whereas i would be the replacement for previous relationships, but not for porn if that makes more sense
                      Being from jahiliyyah doesn't have much to do with reverts. A born Muslim can just as much sleep around as a kafir.

                      And a man who doesn't fear Allah can easily go around having extramarital relationship even while he's married. In fact, it's happening all the time.

                      Really it all comes down to Taqwa and knowledge of the deen. Being expereinced, revert, etc., doesn't come into this.
                      Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

                      "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
                      - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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                      • #41
                        Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                        Originally posted by Silent being View Post
                        I'm curious now...
                        Don't be.

                        Trust me

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                        • #42
                          Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                          Originally posted by quark View Post
                          I'd take "infatuation" over the love you're describing, which sounds more like bowel problems if you ask me.
                          Are you tryna saymen don't love ever?
                          يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

                          O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

                          Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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                          • #43
                            Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                            Originally posted by aynina View Post
                            Are you tryna saymen don't love ever?
                            men are more practical sadly... and visual

                            but i'm a woman and i'm done with the whole 'love' BS myself.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                              Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post
                              curiosity killed the cat :cat:
                              lol I don't mind being the cat.I was once told to keep a curious mind. Just wondering what are you guys learning from this the thread.I need to know, I like knowing

                              I'm the why, how type of a person:(
                              '' WE LIVE IN AN INTERESTING TIME, WHERE THE 'ILM (KNOWLEDGE) OF A PERSON IS JUDGED BY HOW FAMOUS THE PERSON IS.''


                              - IMAM ANWAR AL 'AWLAQI.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Is not being experienced a problem

                                Originally posted by .mirror. View Post
                                Being from jahiliyyah doesn't have much to do with reverts. A born Muslim can just as much sleep around as a kafir.

                                And a man who doesn't fear Allah can easily go around having extramarital relationship even while he's married. In fact, it's happening all the time.

                                Really it all comes down to Taqwa and knowledge of the deen. Being expereinced, revert, etc., doesn't come into this.

                                So a born muslim with a jahiliyya that returned to islam isn't considered a revert?
                                يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

                                O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

                                Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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