Is not being experienced a problem

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

Can you imagine our mothers or grandmothers engaging in such discussions? Subhanallah. And this is an "Islamic" forum as well.

This is precisely why I say I would rather live in a 3rd world country in my local village where my offspring won't be polluted by such disgusting behavior to the point where it has become the mainstream mind state of Muslims in the West as well.

funny that - back in the days when there was a wave of immigration from Bangladesh I was aksed by one young girl, recently arrived from a little village in Bangladesh to ger a book on 'the joy of sex'

and before you ask why I was being asked. its because I had a library card.

and some of the first girls who got into relationships in my school were the girls who came from those nice little villages you talk about.

just because the opportunity is not there, doesn't mean the intention is there. just saying

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

Instead of insinuating that the majority of reverts who were engaged in zina are better than born Muslims, have you ever thought of the possibility that no decent brother wants to marry you and that the only ones that are interested you are the sexually frustrated ones?

too many wrong things in this post

first of all , you forget that these reverts have GIVEN UP that lifestyle for the sake of Allah swt. despite their zina past, that makes them pretty awesome people to me. they have had all the fun. They gave it up. you and I, born muslims - this is not part of our lifestyle. we are not better then them because of that. They took several steps to where we are, and they did it by choice.

and its not nice what you just said to the sisters. why wouldn't a decent brother go for her??? She is a revert now. She has changed her lifestyle, she covers, she has Islamic values. Why shouldn't anyone decent approach her. some of you brothers just ned to clean your mouths out, or disinfect yoru fingers. the trash that you guys write - no tact, no diplomacy, no considerations at all to other peoples feelings. uurrgghh

[nudgetheputri]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

funny that - back in the days when there was a wave of immigration from Bangladesh I was aksed by one young girl, recently arrived from a little village in Bangladesh to ger a book on 'the joy of sex'

and before you ask why I was being asked. its because I had a library card.

and some of the first girls who got into relationships in my school were the girls who came from those nice little villages you talk about.

just because the opportunity is not there, doesn't mean the intention is there. just saying

Lol. The girl sounds pretty young...

[Stoic Believer]

And why is that? I understand that majority of muslim men want to marry a virgin, but why? Like they litterally see the woman as an ice cream which has been licked by someone else and this is the best metaphor for that, dont say its wrong now.
How childish is that? Wasnt aicha r.a. the only virgin wife of muhammad saws?

For some men its jealousy or ego, because other men have already had her.

For others its insecurity. "Will she compare me to her past boyfriends/husbands?" They feel they have to compete with them.

For others its just a complete turnoff. The thought of their wife having been with other men just makes them :vomit:

[peras1]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

too many wrong things in this post

first of all , you forget that these reverts have GIVEN UP that lifestyle for the sake of Allah swt. despite their zina past, that makes them pretty awesome people to me. they have had all the fun. They gave it up. you and I, born muslims - this is not part of our lifestyle. we are not better then them because of that. They took several steps to where we are, and they did it by choice.

and its not nice what you just said to the sisters. why wouldn't a decent brother go for her??? She is a revert now. She has changed her lifestyle, she covers, she has Islamic values. Why shouldn't anyone decent approach her. some of you brothers just ned to clean your mouths out, or disinfect yoru fingers. the trash that you guys write - no tact, no diplomacy, no considerations at all to other peoples feelings. uurrgghh

You don't understand most men I suppose. But let me put it to you in this way, I'd marry someone who wears skinny jeans and hijab but never had a relationship and committed zina then a niqabi who lost her virginity through zina. Do you think we men give a crap whether you are a revert or not? That somehow just because you are a revert, we will not consider your past or baggage? Haha, I would rather marry someone that doesn't even wear a hijab than someone who commits zina even.

[hassaan561]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

For some men its jealousy or ego, because other men have already had her.

For others its insecurity. "Will she compare me to her past boyfriends/husbands?" They feel they have to compete with them.

For others its just a complete turnoff. The thought of their wife having been with other men just makes them :vomit:

well said. i agree.

[peras1]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

For some men its jealousy or ego, because other men have already had her.

For others its insecurity. "Will she compare me to her past boyfriends/husbands?" They feel they have to compete with them.

For others its just a complete turnoff. The thought of their wife having been with other men just makes them :vomit:

Imagine walking down the street and then the guy she committed zina with approaches you both and laughs or something. How can a man not feel some sense of anger or even look at her, argh.

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

For some men its jealousy or ego, because other men have already had her.

For others its insecurity. "Will she compare me to her past boyfriends/husbands?" They feel they have to compete with them.

For others its just a complete turnoff. The thought of their wife having been with other men just makes them :vomit:

oohh I see

your feelings are obv more valid then those of the greatest man who has lived , who himself married widows, divorcees.

you men are just so pathetic. seriously.

there is no wonder why many muslim women actively seek to marry revert brothers.
I swear if I had any less integrity as a muslim I would jjust seek to convert a man to my faith and marry him. plenty of nice guys at my work place. who wants to wait for a pathetic muslim man who thinks pathetic thoughts like that

and before you say..... jiust referring to those who have committed zina outside marriage. I doubt that is the case. I know very well that those thoughts extend to divorcees / widows as well

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

You don't understand most men I suppose. But let me put it to you in this way, I'd marry someone who wears skinny jeans and hijab but never had a relationship and committed zina then a niqabi who lost her virginity through zina. Do you think we men give a crap whether you are a revert or not? That somehow just because you are a revert, we will not consider your past or baggage? Haha, I would rather marry someone that doesn't even wear a hijab than someone who commits zina even.

from what I read on this forum, NO I don't want to understand you strange men

you go and think your strange thoughts.

[peras1]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

oohh I see

your feelings are obv more valid then those of the greatest man who has lived , who himself married widows, divorcees.

you men are just so pathetic. seriously.

there is no wonder why many muslim women actively seek to marry revert brothers.
I swear if I had any less integrity as a muslim I would jjust seek to convert a man to my faith and marry him. plenty of nice guys at my work place. who wants to wait for a pathetic muslim man who thinks pathetic thoughts like that

Are you really comparing divorcees who were among the best women on the earth that Allah choose for our Nabi Saw, to someone who had a boyfriend and committed zina with them?

[Stoic Believer]

For some men its jealousy or ego, because other men have already had her.

For others its insecurity. "Will she compare me to her past boyfriends/husbands?" They feel they have to compete with them.

For others its just a complete turnoff. The thought of their wife having been with other men just makes them :vomit:

oohh I see

your feelings are obv more valid then those of the greatest man who has lived , who himself married widows, divorcees.

you men are just so pathetic. seriously.

there is no wonder why many muslim women actively seek to marry revert brothers.
I swear if I had any less integrity as a muslim I would jjust seek to convert a man to my faith and marry him. plenty of nice guys at my work place. who wants to wait for a pathetic muslim man who thinks pathetic thoughts like that

This is just how men feel, particularly men who are virgins themselves. Why do you call them pathetic? They can't help how they feel.

Honestly, virgin women probably have similar reservations.

And don't hold us to the standard of Rasulullah (saw). None of us will ever be close to him.

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

Are you really comparing divorcees who were among the best women on the earth that Allah choose for our Nabi Saw, to someone who had a boyfriend and committed zina with them?

I edited my post

most muslim men (as I have seen on this forum) would happily extend that to women who are divorced.

Nabi pbuh was the prophet at the time. He could have married ANY woman he chose to but he didn't. he didn't have that inborn arrogance that a lot of you brothers have

[Stoic Believer]

oohh I see

your feelings are obv more valid then those of the greatest man who has lived , who himself married widows, divorcees.

you men are just so pathetic. seriously.

there is no wonder why many muslim women actively seek to marry revert brothers.
I swear if I had any less integrity as a muslim I would jjust seek to convert a man to my faith and marry him. plenty of nice guys at my work place. who wants to wait for a pathetic muslim man who thinks pathetic thoughts like that

Are you really comparing divorcees who were among the best women on the earth that Allah choose for our Nabi Saw, to someone who had a boyfriend and committed zina with them?

And this.

[hassaan561]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

oohh I see

your feelings are obv more valid then those of the greatest man who has lived , who himself married widows, divorcees.

you men are just so pathetic. seriously.

there is no wonder why many muslim women actively seek to marry revert brothers.
I swear if I had any less integrity as a muslim I would jjust seek to convert a man to my faith and marry him. plenty of nice guys at my work place. who wants to wait for a pathetic muslim man who thinks pathetic thoughts like that

why r u being rude and making condescending comments. well all have our own opinion and thought process. and if u dont care to understand or agree u can state ur opinion in a better way or not say anything. i dont know one women who has married a convert. good luck on finding that man to convert and marry.

[Muslima London]

Re: Is not being experienced a problem

This is just how men feel, particularly men who are virgins themselves. Why do you call them pathetic? They can't help how they feel.

Honestly, virgin women probably have similar reservations.

And don't hold us to the standard of Rasulullah (saw). None of us will ever be close to him.

what disturbs me is how you trivialise that person to the fact that 'she has slept with someone else' and I am defensive about his because I know this is not about zina. You brothers would think the same about divorced/widowed people as well.

so in politer terms you are talking about women who you feel have been 'used' whether or not its in a halal reationship or not.

and i have had 3 years of this forum to know that the category would also extend to halal relationships.