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  • #46
    Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

    Originally posted by Massilia View Post
    technically the divorce rates in Saudi are catastrophic, i believe a thread was posted in the current events not so long ago.
    where? i have read the opposite.

    let me dig it out

    here it is http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia...l-recent-years

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    • #47
      Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

      Originally posted by Medievalist View Post
      exploiting women does happen everywhere. but what this thread is about the marriage bandits and this is well-known to be a Wahhabi disease.

      as for the comments that it's because women are deceived by the west into believing all this "you are free to do as you please" stuff. sorry but that applies in the case of girls who run off with men, girls who have boyfriends. they are the one's who lose all shame and respect for their culture.

      this marriage banditry is born out of the Wahhabi ideology that they alone are the guardians of truth and everyone else is a mubtadi mushrik. The girls who go and marry these guys aren't ones who are taken by the "western dream", they are the one's involved in the Wahhabi nightmare, whereby they and their cult leaders are the one's with the keys to jannah and the dispensers of iman and kufr. hence they are susceptible to the "sister your father isn't a fit wali because he is a grave-worshipping indian/paki mushrik" so you have to find brother goldie former-street-thug as your wali and marry who he says, he just happens to be my mate.

      before anyone comments, I read the article and the case of the mufti, the insinuation being that he was a hanafi. if he was then his studies have not benefitted him if the situation is as he said. that's why in cases of marriage people should always refer to elders and that includes only ulama who are elderly. I don't believe a young 'alim with a black beard has the expertise or ability to deal with these situations, how can he when his blood is warm?
      I personally know of sufi’s who had been married/divorced once and three times respectively who used their links within my old university (they were not students there) to find and marry new revert sisters, then less than six months later both divorced the sisters. These sisters left their already hostile families to be with them, and then were left out in cold, homeless with nowhere to turn. It turned out both the men (who were pakistani) were too cowardly to tell their parents about the marriage and were trying to find wives in Pakistan while married to these revert sisters.

      So, again, nice try, but your theory is rubbish. Your hate for certain Muslims makes you repeatedly speak nonsense in your hope to smear the other. Bad, selfish people are bad, selfish people regardless of what group they ascribe to.
      “Indeed, gentleness is not used in anything except that it beautifies it, and is never removed from anything except that it spoils it.” Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم , Sahih Muslim 16/146

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      • #48
        Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

        Originally posted by AhlulQuran88 View Post
        They are rising all over the gulf and they have been rising since wealth increased amongst them but to associate it with "wahabis" i don't think that this is a correct statement.

        The marriage banditary that is being discussed more in line with a certain sect amongst those that ascribe to salafiya
        yes in the west from my experience it is mostly salafis related muslims who are involved. That reminds me of lecture, where the speaker talked about a call he had with a "brother" who told him word for word : "the last time i married in a council divorce cost me 4000 euros. The next time i wont do it. If it doesnt work out i will throw her out"

        Originally posted by Dinobot View Post
        where? i have read the opposite.

        let me dig it out

        here it is http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia...l-recent-years
        allahu alem i found :
        Why divorce is on the rise in Saudi
        http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index...20130323158091

        http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...di-Arabia.html

        Who is to blame for the high divorce rates in Saudi
        http://www.emirates247.com/news/regi...03-20-1.449351

        Divorce rate in Kuwait rise 50%
        http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsD...6/Default.aspx

        these are 2012-2013 dated articles
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        • #49
          Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

          Forty percent of divorces were mainly due to the husband’s refusal to let his wife continue to work and forcing her to quit her job, while 60 percent were due to issues related to the husband’s control of his wife’s salary.
          Money as usual is the root of the problem. Less to do with ideology in itself. Amazing what you can dig out when you read the articles themselves

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          • #50
            Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

            You know you're a sick human being, when you'd do this to a fellow Muslimah.. absolutely disgusting. But hey they're from the "saved sect" so..
            "The organisation that is called as "the state" puts effort to destroy jihad in Sham as they destroyed it in Iraq because of their obvious transgressions against Quran and Sunnah." Abu Khalid as-Suri (Rahimahullah)

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            • #51
              Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

              Originally posted by Muslim First View Post
              You know you're a sick human being, when you'd do this to a fellow Muslimah.. absolutely disgusting. But hey they're from the "saved sect" so..
              ..or not..
              “Indeed, gentleness is not used in anything except that it beautifies it, and is never removed from anything except that it spoils it.” Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم , Sahih Muslim 16/146

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              • #52
                Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                Originally posted by ahaneefah View Post
                Beware of the Marriage Bandits - Part 1

                By Sheikh Haitham al-Haddad

                "I am sick of hearing about those brothers who prey upon the susceptibility of our sisters, using deception as a tool for marriage, and marriage as a guise for the fulfilment of their evil desires. I fear that if something is not done to tackle these abuses, we will only see the number of such incidents increase. Therefore, I feel compelled to share some of the cases I have encountered in order to highlight the nature of the issues at hand, and that we as a community must take drastic action to stop or minimize this evil."

                Read More:

                http://www.islam21c.com/islamic-thou...andits-part-1/
                Barakallahu fie akhi, for the reminder, shocking to hear that Muslims are doing this ...

                such degenerates arn't men, and don't deserve to be called as such,

                May Allah ta'ala save our sisters from such dicietful fraudsters,

                ameen

                :jkk:
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                "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                • #53
                  Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                  Originally posted by Rebel101 View Post
                  Okay. I've edited out the ''naive'' part.
                  But nowhere did anyone mock them for being naive. We just stated they were.
                  It was a general statement ukhti, not directed at you personally.

                  "Naive" isn't an insult, it's an accurate word to use. But a lot of muslims on the forum have mocked girls for being naive, as if they never went through that stage themselves. We were all innocent once and unaware of the evil that exists in the world. Just because some people take a long time to grow out of this stage, people think they have a right to mock them for falling for traps. Calling them stupid or saying "I'd never do that, how can they be so.." ect.

                  In reality, they should be jealous and humbled by these sisters. To live innocent again without even thinking of the evil out there. Just assuming everyone has a good heart and isn't planning anything bad against you. It was wonderful to be young and unaware of all the horrible people that exist. We should praise their parents for protecting them from that garbage for so long.

                  These women should not be mocked for being naive, rather they should be protected by the Muslims so they never have to learn about horrible people the hard way.

                  If we know brothers or sisters out there who are innocent to the corruptions and fitna in the world, we should make it our duty to keep them on the straight path and protect them from the awful crap that some unethical people want to put them through. And we should relate to them the stories of others who have suffered from this so they don't have to go through it themselves.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                    Originally posted by |Sister| View Post
                    It was a general statement ukhti, not directed at you personally.

                    "Naive" isn't an insult, it's an accurate word to use. But a lot of muslims on the forum have mocked girls for being naive, as if they never went through that stage themselves. We were all innocent once and unaware of the evil that exists in the world. Just because some people take a long time to grow out of this stage, people think they have a right to mock them for falling for traps. Calling them stupid or saying "I'd never do that, how can they be so.." ect.

                    In reality, they should be jealous and humbled by these sisters. To live innocent again without even thinking of the evil out there. Just assuming everyone has a good heart and isn't planning anything bad against you. It was wonderful to be young and unaware of all the horrible people that exist. We should praise their parents for protecting them from that garbage for so long.

                    These women should not be mocked for being naive, rather they should be protected by the Muslims so they never have to learn about horrible people the hard way.

                    If we know brothers or sisters out there who are innocent to the corruptions and fitna in the world, we should make it our duty to keep them on the straight path and protect them from the awful crap that some unethical people want to put them through. And we should relate to them the stories of others who have suffered from this so they don't have to go through it themselves.
                    sister that would be in childhood when you are unaccountable, but as adults you cant have blinkers on and go through life,
                    82. Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is! 83. So glory to Him in Whose hands is the dominion of all things: and to Him will you be all brought back. Quran surah 36: Ya-sin

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                    • #55
                      Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                      Originally posted by |Sister| View Post
                      It was a general statement ukhti, not directed at you personally.

                      "Naive" isn't an insult, it's an accurate word to use. But a lot of muslims on the forum have mocked girls for being naive, as if they never went through that stage themselves. We were all innocent once and unaware of the evil that exists in the world. Just because some people take a long time to grow out of this stage, people think they have a right to mock them for falling for traps. Calling them stupid or saying "I'd never do that, how can they be so.." ect.

                      In reality, they should be jealous and humbled by these sisters. To live innocent again without even thinking of the evil out there. Just assuming everyone has a good heart and isn't planning anything bad against you. It was wonderful to be young and unaware of all the horrible people that exist. We should praise their parents for protecting them from that garbage for so long.

                      These women should not be mocked for being naive, rather they should be protected by the Muslims so they never have to learn about horrible people the hard way.

                      If we know brothers or sisters out there who are innocent to the corruptions and fitna in the world, we should make it our duty to keep them on the straight path and protect them from the awful crap that some unethical people want to put them through. And we should relate to them the stories of others who have suffered from this so they don't have to go through it themselves.
                      I mostly agree but at the same time, they should have been taught about the real world.
                      "Why Do We Fill Our Hearts With Everything But Allah And Expect Not To Fall Apart"

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                      • #56
                        Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                        Originally posted by Sis_Asiya View Post
                        sister that would be in childhood when you are unaccountable, but as adults you cant have blinkers on and go through life,
                        This is why the wali exists and why parents must be obeyed

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                        • #57
                          Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                          how does a sister make sure she has a good wali ?

                          some people have family but not wali material

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                          • #58
                            Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                            many women have walis who are deep into grave worshipping and they only want similar grave worshipper for their sisters or daughters. such women have no option but to rely on mashaykh or heads of islamic centers or religious heads etc.
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                            • #59
                              Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                              First time I've heard of this term, marriage bandit. I don't get why on earth anyone would want to be a marriage bandit, it makes zero sense. Insha ' Allah we're all protected from people with evil intentions. Ameen.
                              And with Him are the keys of the Ghayb (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record”
                              [al-An’aam 6:59]

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                              • #60
                                Re: Beware of the Marriage Bandits

                                Originally posted by Creamcake View Post
                                First time I've heard of this term, marriage bandit. I don't get why on earth anyone would want to be a marriage bandit, it makes zero sense. Insha ' Allah we're all protected from people with evil intentions. Ameen.
                                As someone noted in some other thread. Because of having physical contact with muslim women before getting bored and move onto next women.

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