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  • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

    Originally posted by Deeni Akh View Post
    :jkk:I completely agree with you that ribaa' is from the major sins and it has a huge gravity in the sight of Allah swt but like I said I was expecting people to come up with verses and ahadeeth condeming ribaa which is a great sing because the adherence you have for the deen.

    However, with the situation of the westwest, the muslims have been pushed on to the wall already and they need to educate themselves in order to keep the deen within the society in the UK. Also because education is a basic right for all the citizens of the UK and the government is imposing the loan on the students therefore they won't be accountable for the ribaa'. The scholars have put this ruling in the necessities department of fataawa.

    I'm not saying just take the loan without trying any other means first, exhaust all other means then the resort is the loan. (From credible scholars, not me)
    No sorry i think you misunderstood me, i do agree with you on the point made on the ribaa' but i mean ( i put this in bolt) the fact that these brothers that assume it is talking about tibaa' right away are to be admired is where i disagree for the verse says negative assumption is sin. So it would be betwr for this brother to assume its an islamic loan, and if not he should make an excuse for the sister and transfer the loan to an islamic bank..

    I hope i didnt misunderstand your first point because im not always attentive like that

    Wa iyaak jazakAllahu khair
    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

    O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

    Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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    • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

      No

      I wouldn't pay for her student loan.

      ^ There you go. I made it easy for you all. Honesty is the best policy and if I was a dude then that would be my answer. If she doesn't have the capacity to do anything else but wave a certificate around, I don't have time for that, I have other issues to worry about like paying for a living, the gas bills, electricity bills, food, the bare necessities.

      I didn't marry a woman to pay off her loan that I didn't ask for. It's not compulsory and my real question would be why the heck did you even study if you knew that you wouldn't be able to pay for it?

      I'm not the Bank of England. :rotfl:

      This is a funny thread. Lets sort the mahr issue out first, I mean we can't even get through that hurdle and here we are talking about something that can be easily avoided and is totally unnecessary for a woman to request unless the guy is a complete looney and would rather be a mug.
      'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

      So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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      • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

        The question should be...

        Brothers: would you pay for a mahr?

        -No, i'll be feeding her after marriage
        -No, I only have a date to offer that is half eaten and fatimi mahr and all
        -No, she's working, it's the 21st century, she THE WIFE should be paying ME THE MAHR.

        YOU decide :up:
        'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

        So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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        • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

          If I had the money, then yes. If not, obviously no.

          My wife has rights that I feed her etc. My parents have rights over me. Once I meet those rights, then I can see the money left over. If I have money left over, I'd likely help pay it off, but I would be disappointed that she hid this from me (because I would likely not marry a woman who had debt or moreso was about to pay interest)

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          • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

            If he did then wow he's definitely a keeper :) lol joke, I wouldn't expect my husband to, because I made a mistake by going to university for over a year, and the reason that I'm working full time right now is to get that paid off before I married.. I wouldn't work in this job for fun lol. It might take years yes.. but my sin, I pay for it.. why burden another.. unless I find a husband who genuinely offers, has the money, and doesn't mind, I guess I wouldn't refuse then. But then again I'm sure by the time I am mentally, emotionally, psychologically, physically and every other '..ally' there is lol, Insha ' Allah my loan will have been paid off. Unless I die before then.. that's my main concern.
            And with Him are the keys of the Ghayb (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record”
            [al-An’aam 6:59]

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            • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

              Originally posted by LA3 View Post
              AsSalaamu Alaikum

              Generally, a debt is a debt and In Shaa Allah i would aid anyone who is under my guardianship with their debt. May Allah make it easy and be pleased with us.

              However, I would have serious questions for the potential interms of her thoughts on riba and motivations for taking this avenue of finance.

              The weight of Allah's words are heavy and we affirm that He alone is our provider.
              This...

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              • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                Originally posted by Khalid b. Walid View Post
                :salams

                I was wondering about this.

                If you married a sister and she had a student loan, would you help her pay it off?

                Keep in mind many sisters take such a loan to go to university and then get married afterwards and so won't be working. This means they won't be able to clear this debt and will be stuck with it.
                This is a very important question for people to be thinking about when they are looking to get married. The girl's family should have a plan of paying the loan back, the guys should know before hadn if their wife is stuck with debt and how much.

                I don't know how much the student debt is these days, but surely it can be paid off by cutting costs of the wedding, dress, fancy venue, fancy decoration etc etc.

                It's a very sad thought that these days couples are starting their married life in debt.

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                • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                  she can pay her own loan

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                  • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                    Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                    Do you know of the ruling on a husband paying off his wife's riba based loan? Is that permissible?
                    .
                    He probably thinks they are fine to begin with.
                    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

                    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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                    • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                      Originally posted by Khalid b. Walid View Post
                      :salams

                      I was wondering about this.

                      If you married a sister and she had a student loan, would you help her pay it off?

                      Keep in mind many sisters take such a loan to go to university and then get married afterwards and so won't be working. This means they won't be able to clear this debt and will be stuck with it.
                      Not sure how loans work,
                      but its better not to marry someone taking loans in riba/interest

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                      • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                        Isn't it a sin to pay riba? By paying for her student loan, doesn't that mean she's offloading her sin onto him? If that is the case, she doesn't sound very nice if that is what she wants/expects.

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                        • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                          I think no man should pay off his wife's loan and no woman should expect it. She knew what she was getting into when she went to university and that is a heavy burden for her husband to carry. Of course if she is really struggling and has repented for taking one out, then he should try and help her as much as she can but I feel like she should still pay him back.

                          That is such a horrible feeling to be indebted to someone. She should not want that on herself firstly. But if she has no options then she should demonstrate her integrity throughout the whole process.

                          It's scary how the most pious people change when it comes to business, really really scary
                          ...And he who fears Allah - He will make for him a way out. [65:3]
                          "Put your trust in Allah, certainly, Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him)."
                          :love: [Al-Imran 3:159] :love:

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                          • Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                            SubhanAllah true true
                            إقراء القران فإنه يأتي يوم القيامة شفيعا لأصحابه

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                            • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                              The main problem is not student loans,
                              it is y do people have to pay so much to study, especially women,
                              and y does society demand women to work ,,

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                              • Re: Brothers: Would you pay off your wife's student loan?

                                :salams

                                No loans. I don't get it. Loans are bad.

                                Allahu alam.
                                La ilaha illallahu, wahdahu la sharika lahu, lahul-mulku wa lahul-hamdu, wa Huwa 'ala kulli sha'in Qadir
                                (there is no true god except Allah. He is One and He has no partner with Him; His is the sovereignty and His is the praise, and He is Omnipotent),'
                                Do not say about Allah but Truth.

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