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  • Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

    I am not sure if my wife and I are still 'husband and wife' anymore. I got annoyed and said to her "I divorce you, i divorce you, i divorce you" all in one go. I have read some people say that 3 at once only counts as one and other people say that 3 counts as 3.

    Can someone post CONTACT details for Sharia Council in Manchester (first choice) or Rotherham (2nd choice) or Leeds (3rd choice)

    Need the info ASAP please

    JK

    MessedUp

  • #2
    Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

    As far as I know, if you spoke the words in anger, then took them back when you calmed down, they don't count - but you need to check with a scholar.

    Also, you can't give three divorces all in one go. I'm sorry I don't have a fatwa about that, but the most you've done is just divorced her once, as far as I know.

    You are right that you need to check with a scholar inshaAllah, just googled and found this page, sharia councils in a number of cities, inshaAllah they have contact details. You probably only need to speak to someone on the phone inshaAllah: http://www.islamic-sharia.org/about-us/about-us-3.html
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    • #3
      Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

      btw, I just read your post in the anon forum, if you're having difficulty contacting a local sheikh, try someone less local, because if the divorce is not actually valid, all you need is confirmation that it's not so. If it's just one divorce, then you need advice about taking your wife back again inshaAllah. That can be done over the phone inshaAllah, you may not need an actual meeting inshaAllah.
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      • #4
        Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

        :salams

        Divorce does count as three if said it like he did, even in the state of anger, according to Hanafi opinion.

        Of course, we're not here to give a decisive ruling on this. Please, go to or at least, call a scholar immediately.
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        • #5
          Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

          I have called the London Leyton Sharia Council and the girl on the phone said I need to pop down as they need to look at all the issues (but i reckon she's just a receptionist so says the same thing to everyone)

          I looked up the details of the manchester, didsbury mosque but the hours they seem to open the sharia are really strict ....like 10-11.30 etc. I couldn't get anyone on the phone today, as they said in one of their pds's that they are only available on the phone mon-thur so couldn't call them today http://didsburymosque.com/Page.aspx?id=14&type=12 and see pdf http://didsburymosque.com/uploads/63...5538974648.pdf

          I've googled the names of the regional imam's from the following page http://www.islamic-sharia.org/about-us/about-us-4.html but it's next to impossible to find which mosque these guys are in, for example in rotherham there are around 7 mosques.

          I live in Bradford/Dewsbury but don't want to go to those ones due to reasons of privacy.

          I can't believe it is this hard to find someone.......
          Last edited by MessedUp; 16-03-12, 06:31 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

            Go down to the one who you called. This isn't really something that even scholars would want to discuss on phone. So, it's best if you make the effort to go down, it's about your marriage. Not a small matter at all, akhi.
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            • #7
              Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

              assalaamu alaykum,

              there is an excellent mufti called mufti saleem next door to rotherham, in darnall at industry road masjid, he can give you the islamic response you need as to whether your nikkah is valid inshallaaah.
              Last edited by abu saalehah; 17-03-12, 08:25 AM.
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              • #8
                Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                http://www.daruliftaa.com/contactus

                http://www.idauk.org/dawah/fatwa.html

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                • #9
                  Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                  sadly, it all depends which madhab mufti u go to as to what the answer will be.
                  "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                  The Prophet :saw: said:

                  "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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                  The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                  "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                  By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                    We as Ahlus Sunnah agree tht 3 divorces shuld nt b pronounced all-together as Quran says it, the proper way is 2 pronounce one first thn things shuld b allowed 2 get better but if 3 divorces r pronounced thn they are 3 not one , its simple maths nd proved from Sahih hadiths..
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                    • #11
                      Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                      3 divorces at the same time is valid and binding even if said in anger. This is agreed upon in Hanafi madhab.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                        Originally posted by mundo View Post
                        3 divorces at the same time is valid and binding even if said in anger. This is agreed upon in Hanafi madhab.
                        Does anyone give talaq in happy mood ? :)

                        AFAIK according to imam shafie (ra), 3 fold divorce in one pronouncement counts as a 3 fold divorce..
                        Last edited by shikran; 17-03-12, 10:55 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                          ^^ Exactly, no one does divorces in a happy mood.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                            salam-question for who knows inshAllah-as far as i was reading, when u divorec 3 times your wife, she has to marry someone alse before marryng u ? shukran

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                            • #15
                              Re: Do I still have a Nikah - Shariah Council needed in Manchester/Rotherham/Leeds

                              Originally posted by amiin View Post
                              salam-question for who knows inshAllah-as far as i was reading, when u divorec 3 times your wife, she has to marry someone alse before marryng u ? shukran
                              That's true.

                              To the posters, the thread isn't about the issue of three divorces, so :insha: let's not divert it to that track.

                              :jkk:
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                              "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
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