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  • It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

    Shaykul Islam, ibn Taymiyyah (rahimullah) writes about this disease in his book, 'Diseases of the Hearts and their Cures'. The following is some exerpts from the book. His student ibn Qayyim (rahimullah) also spoke about this disease in one of his books.

    The same applies to the hearts afflicted with this love, for it is harmed by its connection to the loved, either by seeing, touching, hearing, even think about it. And if he were to curb the love then the heart is hurt and grieved by this, and if he gives in to the desire then the sickness becomes stronger and becomes a means through which the grievance is increased.

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    Therefore the only cure for the sick lies in his removing this blameworthy love from his heart.

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    This is also true because the word 'passionate love' is only employed with regards to a man loving a woman or child (or vice versa), it is not employed in things such as the love of one's family, property or status, just as it is not employed with regards to the love of the Prophets and the righteous. Commonly, you will find this word being mentioned alongside a forbidden action, such as loving the woman who is not lawful for him, or loving a child joined with the unlawful glance and touch and other such unlawful actions.

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    This passionate love is forbidden with regards to one who is permissible for him, so how would it be with regards for one who has passionate love for someone who is unlawful or with regards to two men? For this contains a corruption the extent of which none can assess except the Lord of the servants; it is a sickness that corrupts the religion and objectives of the one who possess it, then it corrupts his intelligence and then his body. Allah, the Most High, says,

    "..Then do not be soft in speech, lest in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner." [Surat Ahzab: 33]

    There are some whose hearts contain the disease of desire and whose perceptions are only skin deep. When the object of the desire submits, the sickness is satiated, and this satiation strengthens the desire and the pursuit of the object and hence strengthens the sickness. This is in contrast to the one whose objective is not met, for this failure results in removing the satiation that would strengthen the sickness and thereby the desire is weakened as is the love. This is because the person definitely intends that there be action accompanying his desire, for otherwise all his desire would be is just whisperings of the soul, unless there is some speech or looking accompanying this.
    So when I hear some youth saying here they love so-and-so and it's a relationship outside the bounds of marriage, then I can not say this is real love, but it's just infatuation or ishk. But real love is that which grows between husband and wife. But ishk is a disease of the heart like hasad that needs to be dealt with and cured.
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    Imam AbdulLatif ibn AbdurRahman rahimullah said, "It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be hostile against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn't hostile against the mushrikeen, then it can't be said that he acts upon Tawheed, nor that he realizes it." [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]

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    Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

    What if you love passionately your husband, is it a disease too?
    أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله

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      Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

      What does infatuation mean?

      لا تفكر كثيرا
      بل استغفر كثيرا

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      • #4
        Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

        Originally posted by Families_Relief View Post
        What does infatuation mean?
        Lol, you asked that in another thread, too, I think...

        • a foolish and usually extravagant passion or love or admiration.
        • the state of being completely carried away by unreasoned passion or love
        • A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction.
        • foolish or all-absorbing passion or an instance of this:


        It's like obsession, lust, that kinda feeling.
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        • #5
          Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

          Yeah i did. Okay :jkk: ^

          So when does infatuation or ishk become real love? Or is that subjective?

          لا تفكر كثيرا
          بل استغفر كثيرا

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          • #6
            Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

            Originally posted by ibnFalaax View Post
            Shaykul Islam, ibn Taymiyyah (rahimullah) writes about this disease in his book, 'Diseases of the Hearts and their Cures'. The following is some exerpts from the book. His student ibn Qayyim (rahimullah) also spoke about this disease in one of his books.



            So when I hear some youth saying here they love so-and-so and it's a relationship outside the bounds of marriage, then I can not say this is real love, but it's just infatuation or ishk. But real love is that which grows between husband and wife. But ishk is a disease of the heart like hasad that needs to be dealt with and cured.
            all Illicit relations outside of Marriage are driven by Infatuation and Lust bro,

            and marriage is one of the cures for it ...

            :jkk: for the post ... :up:
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            "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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            • #7
              Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

              Originally posted by hayatto View Post
              What if you love passionately your husband, is it a disease too?
              He said relationships outside of marriage ...

              :jkk:
              http://www.ilovepalestine.com/campai...imesinGaza.gif

              "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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              • #8
                Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                Originally posted by Families_Relief View Post
                Yeah i did. Okay :jkk: ^

                So when does infatuation or ishk become real love? Or is that subjective?
                I think real love is between a husband and a wife (talking about romantic love, here). Any other sort of "love" that's not halal, cannot be real.
                Can you be in ishq with your spouse? Possibly.

                Though, we should never forget that one day, they will have to leave us and in the end, every man is for himself/herself. Even mothers won't care about their newborn.
                But, :insha: if we truly love our spouses for the sake of Allah, then may Allah unite us with them in Jannah.
                Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

                "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
                - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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                • #9
                  Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                  sad^
                  أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله

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                  • #10
                    Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                    Originally posted by hayatto View Post
                    What if you love passionately your husband, is it a disease too?
                    Your sentence doesn't make grammatical sense. The question instead should be phrased, "What if you passionately love your husband, is it a disease too?"

                    Shaykul Islam ibn Taymiyyah (rahimullah) says, "As for the love of a man for his wife or slave-girl which leads him out of the folds of justice such that he does unlawful things for her and leaves what is obligatory - as commonly happens - even to the extent that he may oppress his son born of his old wife due to this love of his new wife, or to the extent that he will do things to keep her happy that would harm his religion and worldly life."

                    Ishk is not something positive. It's a negative quality. Therefore, it can be said that ishk is the love that exceeds the bounds and it is not appropriate to describe a husband and wife's love for eachother as ishk as long as it does not exceed the bounds.
                    Imam AbdulLatif ibn AbdurRahman rahimullah said, "It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be hostile against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn't hostile against the mushrikeen, then it can't be said that he acts upon Tawheed, nor that he realizes it." [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]

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                    • #11
                      Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                      Originally posted by hayatto View Post
                      sad^
                      Which part?

                      Hey, at least, the ending was good. Live together with your wife/husband in Jannah, forever!
                      Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

                      "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
                      - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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                      • #12
                        Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                        I dont get it, can you explain what you mean by ishk? I'm a bit lost

                        لا تفكر كثيرا
                        بل استغفر كثيرا

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                        • #13
                          Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                          Ishq is basically "love," or a more obsessive kind of love.

                          It can be used for a person (like spouse) or religiously, for Allah and Rasul Like, Ishq-e-Rasul (Love of/for Rasul).

                          That's what I know from my limited knowledge. =/
                          Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

                          "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
                          - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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                          • #14
                            Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                            You mean excessive love? I don't think passionate is the correct word

                            لا تفكر كثيرا
                            بل استغفر كثيرا

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                              Re: It is Passionate Love (ishk) or infatuation, not real love

                              Off to read diseases of the hearts and their cures...
                              Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the Dominion, and He is Able to do all things. (67.1)

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