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    can a man marry without wife,s permisson

    can a man marry without the permisson of his wife if thay living seperateds is it permissable in islam or he needs permission first.
    because to avoid sins and can he hide from his wife.please give me advice what islam says about this not jokes be sensible please.

    #2
    Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

    a man can marry without his wifes permission in the first place whether he is living with her or not.she (ur first wife) does not hav 2 give u consent 2 marry another wife.you dont even need a reason to marry a second wife so if you wanna marry one your allowed! :inlove:

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      #3
      Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

      The first wife’s approval is not a condition for marrying a second wife

      Question:
      My question is if you would help me to know the Hadith or the point of vieuw from the Islamic law on the follwing situation.
      If a woman is married to a man and that this man is also married to an other woman without her, the last, knows about this marriage.
      No need to say that this is a difficult and very exceptional situation but seems the best concerning the circumstances?

      Answer:
      Praise be to Allaah.

      The wife’s approval is not a condition for plural marriage, and it is not obligatory for the husband to have the approval of his first wife if he wants to marry a second wife. But it is good manners and kind treatment to approach the issue in such a way as to reduce the pain which women naturally feel in such cases, by smiling at her, greeting her warmly, speaking nicely to her and spending money on her according to his means, in order to gain her approval. Fataawa Islamiyyah, 3/204.

      If a husband takes a second wife, he has to treat his wives equally as far as possible. If he does not treat them equally then he is exposing himself to a stern warning, for it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever has two wives and inclines more towards one of them than the other, will come on the Day of Resurrection with half of his body leaning.” (narrated by al-Nisaa’i, ‘Ushrat al-Nisaa’, 3881; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Nasaa’i, no. 3682).

      When Allaah permitted us to marry more than one woman, He said (interpretation of the meaning):

      “but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice”[al-Nisaa’ 4:3]

      So Allaah commands that a man should restrict himself to one wife, if he knows that he cannot be just. And Allaah is the source of strength.

      See Fataawa Manaar al-Islam, 2/570.

      Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
      http://islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=12544&ln=eng
      Say, O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.Ē
      (Surah Az Zumar, (Chapter 39: Verse 53)

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        #4
        Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

        :salams. You don't have to ask your wife's permission, however:

        Marrying more than one woman isn't for fun. You have to have a valid Islamic reason in order to marry again. And, you have to treat them equally in every single way.

        Also, it would be advisable (not compulsory) to discuss this with your first wife in order not to create any problems.

        :jkk:

        :salams
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        Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.
        (surah al-anfal v.30)

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          #5
          Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

          Salam

          also if you had put in the marriage contract that he will not take a 2nd wife. then he has to ask you permission if he wants to take a 2nd wife
          Say, O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.Ē
          (Surah Az Zumar, (Chapter 39: Verse 53)

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            #6
            Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

            You don't need her permission.

            But, I think that it is out of manners that you at least inform her that you are about to get married to a second. But it also depends on your culture, if it's the done thing that you marry without even informing her then I guess it's ok, you can always tell her later. But in other cultures where it is not the norm it is wise to inform (and generally be more considerate).

            I can't understand why any Allah fearing wife would want to put anything in the marriage contract that forbids her husband from taking another wife. Allah has allowed it.
            Last edited by Umm_Hanzalah; 03-02-08, 10:52 AM.
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              #7
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              to QIYAS: a man does not need a valid reason 2 marry. if he wakes up one day and feels like marrying a second wife he can under the condition that he must treat them EQUALLY. my point here is that there are no specific reasons that a man must have 4 him to marry.

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                #8
                Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                Originally posted by Qiyas View Post
                :salams. You don't have to ask your wife's permission, however:

                Marrying more than one woman isn't for fun. You have to have a valid Islamic reason in order to marry again. And, you have to treat them equally in every single way.

                Also, it would be advisable (not compulsory) to discuss this with your first wife in order not to create any problems.

                :jkk:

                :salams

                :wswrwb: no u dont need your wives permission to marry again, but it would be good manners to tell her that. a man doesnt need a "valid reason" there is nothing in Islam called a "valid reason" to marry again, some people try to make this an excuse and condition ie: they say first wife cant have children or is ill or cant give him his intimate right, or is infirm etc. but there is no daleel to support that claim and the fact is that hes free to marry again even if he doesnt have a specific reason, but yes he must be able to afford to support them all and treat them equally in every way. :up:
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                The Prophet :saw: said:

                "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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                By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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                  #9
                  Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                  Originally posted by `asiya View Post
                  some people try to make this an excuse and condition ie: they say first wife cant have children or is ill
                  See, this is what I have a problem with (not you Ukhti lol). When we were young and going to a Maulvi to learn Qur'an etc, we were told that very thing. Obviously at that age, you never dream that a maulvi will get things wrong, so you never question certain things. When you grow older you just take certain things for granted as you've had no need to question them...

                  So a man doesn't have to have a reason ? hmm.... :D

                  Well :jkk: Ukhti for correcting me.

                  :salams
                  "Yaa Allah grant me victory, or make me die Shaheed"

                  Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.
                  (surah al-anfal v.30)

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                    #10
                    Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                    No, you can't write in the contract that your husband can't marry a 2nd wife. You can however write in that you will require a divorce should he do so.

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                      #11
                      Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                      Originally posted by Qiyas View Post

                      So a man doesn't have to have a reason ? hmm.... :D
                      Men pretty much have a carte blanche.
                      Freedom has a thousand charms to show,
                      That slaves, howe'er contented, never know.
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                        #12
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                        Originally posted by sis_niqabi View Post
                        Salam

                        also if you had put in the marriage contract that he will not take a 2nd wife. then he has to ask you permission if he wants to take a 2nd wife
                        Asalamalikum.

                        As has already been said, it is a man's right to have more than one wife. Only Allah has to power to limit and/or forbid things and he has only limited the number of wives at one time to 4 for a man. He has also stated several times that all women must be treated equally. There are several Islamic reasons why a man would want to take more than one wife - but admittedly some do it just because they care for more than one woman But I believe it is said somewhere that it is better to take another wife rather than make her a mistress :up:

                        It is good manners to speak to the first wife regarding this - even if it is just to advise her you are about to get married. A lot of these marriages go wrong because the wife has not been told WHY he wants to marry again. Even if it's just "because Islam allows it" at least that's some kind of answer for her :(
                        But her permission is not needed and there certainly should be nothing in the marriage contract stating that he can not marry again as this is against Allah's decree and thus completely against Islamic teachings. I have heard of this happening even when we are talking about kings in supposedly Muslim countries! Disgusting!
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                          #13
                          Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                          A man does not need permission from his wife before he marries another. However, he must not be deceptive and as sis Asiya said, it would be good manners to tell his first wife.

                          I personally think a good muslim man would tell his wife, as without a doubt, if he doesn't tell her, it may cause him to lie to her at times, which ofcourse is not acceptable.
                          "Ask the people of remembrance if you do not know" - Surah Anbiya, 7

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                            #14
                            Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                            Originally posted by Qiyas View Post
                            See, this is what I have a problem with (not you Ukhti lol). When we were young and going to a Maulvi to learn Qur'an etc, we were told that very thing. Obviously at that age, you never dream that a maulvi will get things wrong, so you never question certain things. When you grow older you just take certain things for granted as you've had no need to question them...

                            So a man doesn't have to have a reason ? hmm.... :D

                            Well :jkk: Ukhti for correcting me.

                            :salams
                            no, but he must realise the big responsibility that comes with it.
                            "Ask the people of remembrance if you do not know" - Surah Anbiya, 7

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                              #15
                              Re: can a man marry without wife,s permisson

                              Yeah but most don't tell their wives because they would get divorced, whether they had a valid reason or not, and the husbands - although need/want another - do not want to lose their first wife.

                              Imagine a Muslim man had 4 wives, and they didn't know about this. And when they knew, they all divorced him Ouch
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