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  • #46
    Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    i would not do it

    would you tell the brother you are hiring a private investigator?
    yea why not?

    how is it different from asking someone you know to dig deep about someone compared to paying someone to do it? at least youre paying someone for their services...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by UmmAbdullah86 View Post

      To me it means something that you do in private that you wouldn't want others to know about. Going to bars and prostitutes are public activities, so hardly in the closet.
      yea but you could be doing sinning within the confinements of four walls doesnt mean its not happening just beause people dont see it

      okay so how about this scenario, say for example a guy goes to a brothel or strip club and does something wrong in there within those four walls,
      at the same time the place is known to the public as being a brothel or strip club or whatever it may be,
      but within that confinement its happening within a private room and not open in the open public so to speak although the place is established as a place of wrong doings and immorality,
      what doe that fall into according to you? skeletons in the closet or not?

      hope you understand my question sister, just trying to understand in sha Allah

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Layla_ View Post

        But if you tell him you’re doing it, the brother would be more careful so what would be the point? A private investigator follows people about….

        personally I wouldn’t get a private investigator involved. If someone seems to be that untrustworthy that a private investigator needs to be involved then it’s a no brainer really - just don’t marry them
        yea but sometimes once dirt is out there it cant come back,
        so whats meant to be found will be found, as a lot of stuff like for example the internet once its on there you cant ever retrieve it

        anyways i probably wouldnt hire a PI but i was just chucking out there to see whether its considered to be normal these days

        ill give you an example i know someone who recently got married, he showed her he aint got a criminal record etc.
        but at the same time his ex wife has a restraining order against him from seeing his kids

        now tell me why would he have something so serious put against him if he hasnt done wrong?

        remember in the west espeially in england its youre innocent till proven guilty,
        my point is the law here is that you wouldnt have something against your name whether it be a conviction or restraining orders etc unless theres something REASON why

        now i told her look i seen guys from the streets and i seen business people and i know this is fishy
        but sometimes some people are so naieve they convince themselves its a match made in heaven so theyre so stubbornm they dont want to listen

        so anyways cut a long story short i didnt go to her wedding because i dont trust the guy and tbh i was made to look like the bad guy,
        but the thing is dont askl me for my opinion and thoughts if you arent prepared for my real opinion and thoughts,
        if they wanted a yes man they got it with everyone else, i just said when you know what hits the fan, dont come back to me

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

          yea but you could be doing sinning within the confinements of four walls doesnt mean its not happening just beause people dont see it

          okay so how about this scenario, say for example a guy goes to a brothel or strip club and does something wrong in there within those four walls,
          at the same time the place is known to the public as being a brothel or strip club or whatever it may be,
          but within that confinement its happening within a private room and not open in the open public so to speak although the place is established as a place of wrong doings and immorality,
          what doe that fall into according to you? skeletons in the closet or not?

          hope you understand my question sister, just trying to understand in sha Allah
          It can happen where ever but if he ain't telling people about it and is keeping it as a secret bcos he knows it is bad and he feels guilty about it then yes it is skeletons in the closet.

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          • #50
            If you feel compelled to use a PI on a certain person then that should be enough for you to decide not to even go ahead with the proposal.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Flawed
              You know Simply_Logical I hope you don't ask the "do you lurvvve...." questions?
              Its just the way I am, whether peeps like it or not, it is what it is I suppose 🤷🤷🤷

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Flawed View Post
                If you feel compelled to use a PI on a certain person then that should be enough for you to decide not to even go ahead with the proposal.
                yea but really how is using the services of a PI any different then searching stuff like social media, bankruptcy etc online any different?

                obviously when i say PI i dont mean following them around, its more digging info about them, like how any friends and family would, only diffeence is youre paying for the services

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

                  yea but really how is using the services of a PI any different then searching stuff like social media, bankruptcy etc online any different?

                  obviously when i say PI i dont mean following them around, its more digging info about them, like how any friends and family would, only diffeence is youre paying for the services
                  I agree. It's just paying for someone else to do the legwork for you. They are probably better qualified to do a better job than you would as well.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

                    yea but really how is using the services of a PI any different then searching stuff like social media, bankruptcy etc online any different?

                    obviously when i say PI i dont mean following them around, its more digging info about them, like how any friends and family would, only diffeence is youre paying for the services
                    Then you can save your cash and do the same work yourself then?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Eorlingas View Post

                      I agree. It's just paying for someone else to do the legwork for you. They are probably better qualified to do a better job than you would as well.
                      exactly, take away the payment aspect, whats the difference? i obviously dont mean following anyone or spying as thats just next level

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post


                        but at the same time his ex wife has a restraining order against him from seeing his kids

                        now tell me why would he have something so serious put against him if he hasnt done wrong?
                        Women do it all day, every day

                        Not saying he is innocent, but women lie too
                        .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                        نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                        دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post

                          Women do it all day, every day

                          Not saying he is innocent, but women lie too
                          yea of course akhi, no doubt about that, dont think even feminists would deny that tbf..........well i hope not lol

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                          • #58
                            lol @ private investigators

                            -_-

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post
                              assalaamu alaykum wah rahmatullahi wah barakatuhu

                              hey peeps so i wanted to ask in regards to background checks what exactly is best to get done? just word of mouth or something much more deeper?

                              please can you expand on this, like what is recommended and what is considered going over the top?
                              is there even such a thing as going over the top when it comes to background checks?

                              really interested to hear your view points and especially your recommendations on this

                              thanks jazakAllah khayran
                              Wa-Alaikum Salaam

                              this is very hard these days as people cant be trusted I mean the families lie about their kids etc

                              I can only say ask Allah to guide us.

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                              • #60
                                yeah asking for Allaahs guidance is so important too. He knows everything, we know nothing.
                                And with Him are the keys of the Ghayb (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record�
                                [al-An�aam 6:59]

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