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    Salam

    Interesting.....https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-divorce-case/
    Last edited by Mintchocchip; 05-08-18, 05:36 PM.

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    Feminism creeping into our community. Now a women can steal her ex husbands wealth.
    Ya Allah,
    Make me a stronger person today. Make me a better person out of all these. It is no longer bearable for me for my heart is aching and You are the only One who knows how I feel. Nothing is making sense to myself and for anyone else for that matter especially to the one person I wish to understand me better than anybody else.
    "Don't use the sharpness of your tongue on the mother who taught you how to speak

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    • #3
      This is a dilemma with living in the west.

      With the absence of authoritative Shariah courts, men feel compelled to get a nikah only marriage to prevent getting robbed of their assets should divorce occur. And for that same reason, women feel compelled to go to Western courts because there is no existing Muslim authority that can enforce their Islamic rights.

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      • #4
        This is why it is vital in the west to write down all financial agreements in the nikah contract if divorce is to happen. As a backup, also write the same stuff in the UK pre-nup. If you don't, I can't imagine a bigger gamble any one can take in there life. It makes gambling in Vegas seem pathetically small in comparison.
        Last edited by oshirowanen; 05-08-18, 08:41 PM.

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        • Medic
          Medic commented
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          Pre-nups aren't legally binding in the UK so may not work 100% of the time.

        • oshirowanen
          oshirowanen commented
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          Medic, that is true, but anything that you can do will help to some degree even if it's not 100%.

      • #5
        Prenup it is ....if not men are sooooooo sc....d

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        • #6
          Originally posted by muzzybee View Post
          Prenup it is ....if not men are sooooooo sc....d
          First find out is pre nup permissable

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          • #7
            If a women goes to divorce her husband and goes to court to be judged by a judge
            For it
            then she has committed an act of kufr

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post

              First find out is pre nup permissable
              Or nikah contract whichever is halal

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
                If a women goes to divorce her husband and goes to court to be judged by a judge
                For it
                then she has committed an act of kufr
                If you have lost trust in your ex, why trust that she will not take you to court and commit an act of kufr? Kind of seems silly to trust that she is trust worthy enough to not use UK courts when you divorce her on the grounds of her previous actions which caused a loss of trust in the first place.

                Also, in the UK the nikha contract has zero weight in the court, so it only seems logical to use the court system to strengthen islamic divorce rights via a pre-nup.

                To make things worse, in islam you can't get to know the person before marriage, so a pre-nup to enforce your islamic divorce rights makes so much logical sense. As the only way to know a person is to live with them, and sometimes, after marriage, you realised you married the wrong person. If that happens, and you don't have a pre-nup to enforce your islamic divorce rights, you will lose 50% of everything.

                Why would anyone take such a massive gamble knowing the UK law has more power than islamic law in the UK, knowing when you can improve the chances of islamic law being enforce with a pre-nup?

                Another perspective is, the lack of a pre-nup in the UK, is the equivalent of enforcing UK divorce rights instead of islamic divorce rights! Why would any muslim want UK divorce rights enforced instead of islamic divorce rights by not getting a prenup?
                Last edited by oshirowanen; 06-08-18, 08:58 PM.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by muzzybee View Post
                  Prenup it is ....if not men are sooooooo sc....d
                  You need to be married for years for you to lose any sizeable amount anyway. Why stress over something that may or may not happen.

                  Peeps need to bag one before they lose it.

                  -_-

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post

                    First find out is pre nup permissable
                    The lack of a pre-nup in the UK to help enforce Islamic divorce rights would be the equivalent of choosing to ditch Islamic divorce rights in favour of UK divorce rights.

                    If a scholar says a pre-nup is haraam, It would be the equivalent of him saying that it is haraam to use a contract to enforce islamic divorce rights.

                    Also, in islam it does say, follow the laws of the land unless they break the laws of islam. If you can use the laws of the land to enforce the laws of islam, it would be counter productive not to use a pre-nup.
                    Last edited by oshirowanen; 06-08-18, 09:09 PM.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by zi-zizou View Post

                      You need to be married for years for you to lose any sizeable amount anyway. Why stress over something that may or may not happen.

                      Peeps need to bag one before they lose it.

                      -_-
                      Or simple don't have any assets

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by oshirowanen View Post

                        The lack of a pre-nup in the UK to help enforce Islamic divorce rights would be the equivalent of choosing to ditch Islamic divorce rights in favour of UK divorce rights.

                        If a scholar says a pre-nup is haraam, It would be the equivalent of him saying that it is haraam to use a contract to enforce islamic divorce rights.

                        Also, in islam it does say, follow the laws of the land unless they break the laws of islam. If you can use the laws of the land to enforce the laws of islam, it would be counter productive not to use a pre-nup.
                        U got daleel

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                        • #14
                          The assault on Islamic marriage and its rights continues by the kuffar.
                          In India they outlaw triple talaq, they allow women to take what is not rightfully theirs under shariah, so they seek judgement from kuffar to illegal consume the wealth of another person. In Tunisa they allow muslim women to marry kuffar.

                          What an evil backwards rule this is. Why should she be entitled to anything from her husband once they are divorced? Unless there are children to be taken care of which is different.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Mikha’eel View Post
                            The assault on Islamic marriage and its rights continues by the kuffar.
                            In India they outlaw triple talaq, they allow women to take what is not rightfully theirs under shariah, so they seek judgement from kuffar to illegal consume the wealth of another person. In Tunisa they allow muslim women to marry kuffar.

                            What an evil backwards rule this is. Why should she be entitled to anything from her husband once they are divorced? Unless there are children to be taken care of which is different.
                            We can't blame others, the assault is coming from within.

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