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  • Layla_
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  • Red Apples
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    Asalaamualaykum Muhmina Layla

    So where are you sitting with this, thus far ?

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  • Layla_
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    Originally posted by Fakhri View Post
    Sr [MENTION=137526]Layla_[/MENTION]

    http://home-ed.info/local_groups

    I don't if sister has come across the above?

    That was what my sister gave although she mentioned there was a far more useful site for finding people locally. She wasn't able to find the link for that (apparently it took a lot of searching and reading through pages to find this other link, so my apologies if the above isn't very useful.)

    Allah Ta'aalaa make it easy for sister, and :jkk: for trying to go down this route. Alhamdulillah.
    :jkk: to both you and your sister for the link.

    Ameen!

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  • Fakhri
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    Sr [MENTION=137526]Layla_[/MENTION]

    http://home-ed.info/local_groups

    I don't if sister has come across the above?

    That was what my sister gave although she mentioned there was a far more useful site for finding people locally. She wasn't able to find the link for that (apparently it took a lot of searching and reading through pages to find this other link, so my apologies if the above isn't very useful.)

    Allah Ta'aalaa make it easy for sister, and :jkk: for trying to go down this route. Alhamdulillah.

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  • neelu
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    I'm not surprised that teaching KG or 5 year olds would be difficult and take a lot of time. There are countries in mainland Europe which have very high educational standards but they don't start sending their children to school till age 7 because they believe that the earlier years should be for play and they're too young to be in a structured learning system before that age. My cousins grew up in Austria and this is how they were raised and their education level was very good. They were fluent in at least 3 languages by the time they were 15 and they're in good jobs now.

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  • aelmo
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    Originally posted by Gingerbeardman View Post
    First of all would you think you would find it as difficult if you were teaching two kids not 25?
    Do you think things would take as long?

    As for socialisation, it's not true homeschooled kids are not socialised with classes, clubs, neighbours and relatives and unlike other kids they learn to play with people of different ages, not just their own age group.

    Finally, your argument to expose them to western culture at such a young age so they are not shocked later, sorry this is just insane to me. I assume you do a little basic child psychology as a teacher and you'd put these kids, at their most vulnerable in an environment where they going to be exposed to bad manners, foul language, as well as elements of kufr beliefs and you think this is a good idea?

    Kids have to still grow up in this society, but as a parent I want to control the degree that they are exposed to it as much as possible, especially in the early years, to make it as safe as possible and it's unconscionable to me to just put them into an environment where that is all controlled by those who do not share my beliefs and practices
    I'm sorry I think I didn't speak very clearly. I meant that she can put them in school in the beginning so that they can learn the basics, not so that they can be exposed to western culture. I would assume that kids who are 5 and 6 still wouldn't know all the bad things that older kids would know. Also it is definetely easier to teach 1 or 2 kids. I guess it just depends on the kid on how long it would take to teach them. The kids I teach are esl so we need to take a long time ingraning every little thing in them.
    I guess because I am a teacher and I live in a muslim country I don't really see much of a need for homeschooling, but I completely understand why people in the western would want to homeschool. But I do still think that you need to do a lot of research on homeschooling and on how to teach kids before you start doing it. You don't want the kids to fall behind.
    Sorry again, trust me I don't have bad intentions with what I am saying. Raising children to be good muslims should be your top priority.

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  • Gingerbeardman
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    Originally posted by aelmo View Post
    I just started working as a teacher for the first time. I was initially put in grade 3 when I only have experience as a TA in kindergarten and it was rough. You have no idea what goes into teaching kids until you actually teach them. Granted it was a class full of 25 kids so its obviously going to be more difficult, but they need to learn basic things that are so ingrained in you that you don't even realise that you need to teach that type of stuff. I teaching kg2 now and all I can say is take your time. It takes FOREVER for them to learn in the beginning. This entire week is dedicated to the letter R and counting from 1-5. A WHOLE WEEK!!! It takes time especially when they are so young.
    But since I work in kg i can tell you for sure that going to actual school teaches kids how to make friends and how to be independent. At the beginning the kids would cry when they left their parents but now they are excited to come to school so they could play with other kids. You don't want your children to be antisocial. You could send them to school for a few years and then pull them out later on when the children around them start to become bad influences. I grew up in the middle east and was very gaurded from haram things and when I moved to the west, I was in complete shock at how horrible things were. So I understand why you would want to homeschool them. But I genuinely believe that you should let them go to regular school until they at least know the basics.
    Also you need to be hard on kids sometimes when they are learning and as a mother would you be willing to do that? I had a kid today who was crying her eyes out for no reason and she refused to do her work. I gave into her crying for a while but then I had to just say "enough" and let her calm herself down and made her do her work. Because that is how they grow. Would you be able to just let your kid cry and be able to make them finish their work?
    Also can you teach everything between grades kg1 and grade 12. I can't even do that. You would need to work very hard to make this work.
    First of all would you think you would find it as difficult if you were teaching two kids not 25?
    Do you think things would take as long?

    As for socialisation, it's not true homeschooled kids are not socialised with classes, clubs, neighbours and relatives and unlike other kids they learn to play with people of different ages, not just their own age group.

    Finally, your argument to expose them to western culture at such a young age so they are not shocked later, sorry this is just insane to me. I assume you do a little basic child psychology as a teacher and you'd put these kids, at their most vulnerable in an environment where they going to be exposed to bad manners, foul language, as well as elements of kufr beliefs and you think this is a good idea?

    Kids have to still grow up in this society, but as a parent I want to control the degree that they are exposed to it as much as possible, especially in the early years, to make it as safe as possible and it's unconscionable to me to just put them into an environment where that is all controlled by those who do not share my beliefs and practices

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  • aelmo
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    I just started working as a teacher for the first time. I was initially put in grade 3 when I only have experience as a TA in kindergarten and it was rough. You have no idea what goes into teaching kids until you actually teach them. Granted it was a class full of 25 kids so its obviously going to be more difficult, but they need to learn basic things that are so ingrained in you that you don't even realise that you need to teach that type of stuff. I teaching kg2 now and all I can say is take your time. It takes FOREVER for them to learn in the beginning. This entire week is dedicated to the letter R and counting from 1-5. A WHOLE WEEK!!! It takes time especially when they are so young.
    But since I work in kg i can tell you for sure that going to actual school teaches kids how to make friends and how to be independent. At the beginning the kids would cry when they left their parents but now they are excited to come to school so they could play with other kids. You don't want your children to be antisocial. You could send them to school for a few years and then pull them out later on when the children around them start to become bad influences. I grew up in the middle east and was very gaurded from haram things and when I moved to the west, I was in complete shock at how horrible things were. So I understand why you would want to homeschool them. But I genuinely believe that you should let them go to regular school until they at least know the basics.
    Also you need to be hard on kids sometimes when they are learning and as a mother would you be willing to do that? I had a kid today who was crying her eyes out for no reason and she refused to do her work. I gave into her crying for a while but then I had to just say "enough" and let her calm herself down and made her do her work. Because that is how they grow. Would you be able to just let your kid cry and be able to make them finish their work?
    Also can you teach everything between grades kg1 and grade 12. I can't even do that. You would need to work very hard to make this work.

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  • Red Apples
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    Asalaamualaykum Mu'mina Layla
    You are most welcome.

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  • Layla_
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    Originally posted by Red Apples View Post

    Asalaamualaykum Mu'mina Layla,

    C.Qualifications

    The point that you brought forward was a point that I have touched upon, more challenging the parents ability, as compared to the teacher. You have spurred me to actually name my headings now.

    You are correct in saying that majority of UK Islamic Schools have non-qualified teachers (ie. Not PGCE or QTS) however I cannot derail from the original issue of home schooling against state schooling.

    What I am about to state now is in many ways related to your last post.
    In the UK – there is no compulsive law that a teacher need be QTS/PGCE. It is actually a preferred measure rather than a compulsive one. This is the very reason that home schooling is legal. On that same note – that’s the reason (despite limited funding) that most Islamic schools can have a degree graduate teaching, in fact, it might shock you to know that the law even allows a A levels Student to formally teach !!! ( I don’t understand the rationale behind that myself, I’m sure you rolled your eyes up too) – and, if you did roll your eyes up, then that proves my point – how qualified is parent to Teach ?

    So this now leaves the paradox in the issue – that a Paying parent to a Private Islamic School challenges the very qualification of a teacher yet intrinsically believes that home schooling a Muslim child is viable.

    D. Resources

    Should you still want to consider the pseudo envisaging of the heavenly home schooling issue – consider that a state school provides many resources for the wholistic understanding of the child’s experience. Home schooling would require the same ethos to give the child a valued education. The provision of PE equipment, Science labs, I.T Labs and Related Software, Speech and Drama Etc.

    They are not all easily substituted.

    E. Spatial Awareness.
    This is a major issue in Home Schooling. The format of the design of a School is to encourage Spatial Awareness which in turn effects human psychology. Schooling a child in a “one dimensional” can lead to many issues. Should a person want to home school a child, firstly, what is their knowledge in this matter? Secondly, How would one create a provision to meet the demands of the ever expanding mind of a child?

    To be continued…
    Wa alaykum salaam

    :jkk:

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  • Red Apples
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    Originally posted by Layla_ View Post
    Wa alaykum salaam

    :jkk: I look forward to reading the rest of the document Insha Allah

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  • Layla_
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    Originally posted by Red Apples View Post
    Asalaamualaykum Mu'mina Layla
    This will be covered in the continuation of my document. (From a very unbiased level)
    Wa alaykum salaam

    :jkk: I look forward to reading the rest of the document Insha Allah

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  • Red Apples
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    Originally posted by Layla_ View Post
    The thing with Muslim schools is that they don't always have qualified staff. If I am paying for my child's education, I expect the education to be 'good' at a minimum! As an example, I was offered a job position in an Islamic school to teach GSCE English & History when I'd literally just graduated - I was only 21. I could teach English no problem but I was taken by surprise when they asked me to teach history at GSCE level.

    i don't even want to mention what I seen in this Islamic school when I went for my interview, but I did politely decline the job offer.

    We need Muslim schools where the staff know what they are doing, not just any random jumping up at the chance of a business opportunity...
    Asalaamualaykum Mu'mina Layla
    This will be covered in the continuation of my document. (From a very unbiased level)

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  • Layla_
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    The thing with Muslim schools is that they don't always have qualified staff. If I am paying for my child's education, I expect the education to be 'good' at a minimum! As an example, I was offered a job position in an Islamic school to teach GSCE English & History when I'd literally just graduated - I was only 21. I could teach English no problem but I was taken by surprise when they asked me to teach history at GSCE level.

    i don't even want to mention what I seen in this Islamic school when I went for my interview, but I did politely decline the job offer.

    We need Muslim schools where the staff know what they are doing, not just any random jumping up at the chance of a business opportunity...

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  • Abu julaybeeb
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    I think a muslim school is best as home schooling sounds like too much effort with less results
    Obviously money can be an issue so either you have ro work more or raise money from friends family and donations

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