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    Mothers milk - how to overcome any problems in the early days - general information

    Moderators note: this sticky thread is for information. Please do post extra information on the same subject, or your own experiences and questions relating to the topic. However, conversation and/or arguing will be deleted inshaAllah.

    This sticky thread is for essential information for new mothers (and fathers) about breastfeeding. Unfortunately many midwives and health visitors are NOT trained in breastfeeding and are not even that knowledgable about it. Therefore some mothers are failing to breastfeed because of bad advice from the midwives and health visitors.

    Some of the information in this thread may not be considered suitable for brothers other than new fathers and fathers to be. However the success or failure of a woman breastfeeding can rest on her knowing about breastfeeding and knowing what is good or bad advice. As its hard sometimes for a mother to get good advice, it is necessary that they have as much good information as possible - and their husbands also need access to this information! Not all the women who may need this information have access to the sisters area.

    Brothers: if you don't feel comfortable with the contents on this thread, then don't read it please.


    Why buy your baby any other milk when Allah puts milk for him/her in your breasts for free?

    From reading books about babies you would think that breastfeeding just happens right from the start......... thats misleading, it can be hard to breastfeed for the first ten days or so, the baby has to learn to latch on and you have to learn how to latch him/her on, how best to hold him/her, how to keep him/her there, how to burp him/her, and there are lots of difficulties you might face like sore nipples (they can get very sore the first few days), feeding the baby constantly until your milk comes in (the first few days you only have colostrum, which contains vital nutrients and antibodies for your baby but it is ultra concentrated and there isn't much of it so your baby is hungry until the regular milk comes in.

    no matter what difficulties you face....... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE persevere with it it is SOOOOOO worth it, mostly cause its so healthy for your baby but also because after you get past the difficulties it becomes very easy and not at all painful and its soooooo convienient. and it is so lovely to be able to nourish your baby yourself with milk that Allah put there.

    I have heard of many mothers who have given up in the first few days because they were not prepared for having any difficulty and they think they are unable to breastfeed, when all they needed to do was persevere through the first few days.

    The only medical reason not to breastfeed is if you have HIV cause the baby can catch it through breast milk. Very very rarely you get women who can't produce enough milk but even they can do mixed feeding. Women on certain medication can't breastfeed, but unless its essential that you take the medication, you can discuss with your doctor whether you can come off it ot have an alternative whilst you breastfeed.

    And if you have really sore nipples you can use nipple shields until they stop being sore. If you use nipple shields on both sides for a while there is a danger the baby will refuse to feed without them so they should be used sparingly, but they really can help get you through a difficult few feeds whilst they heal up. (they heal up quickly btw especially if you also use a nipple cream such as lansinoh, which protects them whilst the baby is feeding without harming the baby.)
    Last edited by dhak1yya; 24-02-08, 01:44 PM.

    Re: breastfeeding thread

    dealing with engorgement and mastitis.

    engorgement is when your breasts are too full, and they hurt. you often get this when your milk comes in (about day 3-4) but you can get it any time. to avoid it its best to alternate which side you feed from, and if one breast feels particularly full, to feed from that side at the next feed.

    if your breast is engorged the best cure is to feed your baby from it. if thats not possible or if they are both engorged and your baby only wants one breast (its so full your baby might be full and not be able to take the other breat) you can express a little milk from it, but not too much cause your breasts work on a "supply and demand" system, so if you express your breasts will just make more milk to replace it thinking your baby has drunk all the expressed milk as well

    mastitis is when the breast gets inflamed and you get a fever from your breasts being engorged. The advice is to keep on breastfeeding (it relieves the engorgement, it ensures your baby is still getting milk, and the milk is no different so it won't affect the baby) and to consulting your doctor or midwife because it may need medical treatment.

    cabbage leaves placed inside your bra relieves engorgement, and sometimes having a hot shower relieves it as does massaging your breasts. However, feeding your baby is the best way inshaAllah

    Feeding when you are out and about (UK based advice)

    There is usually a breastfeeding room in boots and mothercare, although its not ideal as men can come in so have a large blanket handy to cover yourself just in case!

    If your local masjid has a sisters prayer hall, this can be a good place for breastfeeding in, and totally man free :up: You may also be able to get good breastfeeding advice from the other sisters as the masjid.
    Last edited by dhak1yya; 24-02-08, 01:51 PM.


      Re: breastfeeding thread

      Supply problems - when your breasts don't seem to be making enough milk - what to do!!!

      This is a problem where health visitors and midwives frequently give bad advice unless they are trained in breastfeeding. DO NOT "JUST GIVE FORMULA" - doing so will make the problem worse not better and following this advice has resulted in many mothers being unable to exclusively breastfeed. If your supply really is low, follow the advice below. However, some mothers think they have low supply when they don't. This is discusssed first.

      In the first few days you don't produce huge amounts of milk anyway, your supply has to build up inshaAllah. Whilst you are building up your supply, don't give any formula feeds, because formula feeding decreases your milk supply. Once your supply is establised, then you can do bottle feeds but even then its better to give expressed milk in a bottle rather than formula. However if your baby is having problems latching on (i.e. getting started breastfeeding at each feed) then don't give any milk in a bottle until they are good at latching on inshaAllah. You can give expressed milk via a syringe or even a cup (they must be sterilised first though)

      Suckling increases milk production, baby suckles when hungry, stimulates production of more milk next time. Formula feeding fills up baby, doesn't stimulate more milk, so baby doesn't suckle cause he/she isn't hungry, so no extra supply is made, if there is milk in your breasts that isn't being taken by baby because of a formula feed, your supply may temporarily decrease. So giving baby long enough to suckle is very very important mashaAllah.

      Something that its very important to realise when it comes to milk supply, is that your supply isn't the same every day. you go for a few days with the same amount of milk, maybe feeding for 45 mins to 1 hr each day, then you have a couple of days where the feeds just go on and on and on and you feel like your supply has dropped - actually it hasn't - your supply has stayed the same but baby is hungrier. All the extra suckling is your baby putting in her order in advance to your breasts for extra milk please! Then, a day or two later, you have tonnes and tonnes of milk, maybe even feeling a bit engorged, and she is full up and asleep after 20 mins. Then after maybe a day or two like that you're back to the normal length of time for feeds. this cycle happens every time baby's appetite increases -which happens regularly!!

      If you think you are having supply problems because baby cries whenever you put him/her down, even after a long feed: Just because baby cries when being put down after a very long feed, it doesn't mean she didn't get enough milk or that she's crying because she's hungry. She's as likely to be crying because she's not next to you any more and maybe is a bit cold after being in your warm arms. The fact that your baby suckles away contentedly for a long time shows that you are producing lots of milk.

      If you think you are having supply problems because you can't express much milk: Lots of women struggle to express much milk even when they are producing loads and baby is getting plenty, some women can barely express milk at all, even with a good quality expressing pump. So please don't worry if you're having difficulty expressing, it doesn't mean you have no milk.

      If you think you're having supply problems because baby suckles for a long time: In the early days, 1.5 hour breast feeds are normal. Whilst he's suckling quite fast, he's getting foremilk, which is like a drink. Then afterwards when he's suckling more slowly and sleepily he's getting hindmilk which is full of fat and protein and is like food. So babies need quite a lot of time to ensure they take enough hind milk. If you put baby down before he's finished, he will cry inshaAllah. In the early days, let baby fall asleep at the breast - usually they don't fall asleep until they have had enough. Even if it takes an hour and a half. Then gently put him in the cot inshaAllah, and put a blanket over him so he doesn't suddenly feel cold, which will wake him up. A good tip is to have the blanket next to you whilst you're feeding so it smells like you and when you put him down, put the blanket on him , so he can smell you on the blanket and thinks you're still there.

      If you are really having supply problems (its rare) then your baby will not be putting on weight and will be constantly hungry. If this is happening, you should ask to see a health visitor who is trained in breastfeeding ASAP to see if they can find the cause of the problem, and try to rectify it. If there is no such health visitor in your area, see a lactation consultant. In the rare case that you really are not able to produce enough milk, then you would have to supplement with formula. However, this is a last resort! If your baby is putting on weight, you don't have a supply problem. Be aware also that the growth/weight gain curve is slightly different for breastfed babies, so if a health visitor says your baby isn't putting on enough weight, ask to see one trained in breastfeeding, because it is actually the case that formula fed babies put on too much weight, which is why there is a link between formula feeding and obesity. So if a health visitor says your baby is not putting on enough weight, don't take her word for it! Check with a health visitor that is trained in breastfeeding, or ask for your baby's weight gain to be plotted on a graph that is based on breastfed babies, not formula fed ones.

      Sometimes though, because a baby's appetite increases very quickly, or because of other reasons such as stress, your breasts may be struggling a little to keep up. When this happens, it feels like a major supply problem but actually its not. Baby has had a good meal and your breasts are empty, but baby wants dessert as well! However there are simple steps you can take to increase your supply quickly to match baby's demands.

      Increasing supply in one breast, if one breast is producing a lot more than the other: Offer the breast with the least milk first each feed, then feed baby with the other breast so they get more milk from it. Then, whilst feeding baby from the breast with more milk, if you can, express milk from the other breast. That way the breast with less milk gets double the suckling so it can start to produce more milk for next time inshaAllah. Once your supply is more even, go back to (or start!) alternating which breast you give your baby first.

      Increasing supply in general: First make sure you're getting enough food and water. Lack of either of these will decrease your supply. Ask your husband to bring you a very large glass of water whenever you start breastfeeding inshaAllah. Also make sure you have snacks between meals - healthy ones of course!! Fruit is excellent for milk supply. Try to get eight portions of fruit or veg a day if you can. Getting enough of all nutrients is essential though, the amount of protein, calcium and calories you need whilst breastfeeding goes up dramatically. Take vitamin and mineral supplements if necessary (check they are halal and suitable for breastfeeding mothers) Sleep also helps build up supply - but what new mother gets any sleep lol!!! (so don't worry if you're not!) - try to sleep when baby's sleeping though, even during the day. Feungreek is good for increasing and maintaining milk supply. Either add lots to your cooking, or buy supplements from a health food shop. (check that they are halal and suitable for breastfeeding mothers - just because its fenugreek doesn't mean its intended for breastfeeding)

      Let baby suckle for longer times. More suckling = more milk (alternate which breast you start with to keep the supply even inshaAllah) - if your supply is really low you can try expressing on the opposite breast to the one she's feeding on. More stimulation = more milk next time inshaAllah. Some books about babycare give the impression that your baby gets enough milk in five minutes. Whilst its true that they get most of the milk in this time by volume, the hind milk that comes after may be a much smaller quantitiy but it is more packed with nutrients and has a lot less water, so it actually fills your baby up more. Foremilk quenches your baby's thirst. If you try to limit how long your baby suckles, they may not get enough hindmilk, and your breasts won't be getting the "advanced order" from your baby to increase the supply when your baby's appetite increases.

      If there are times in the day when you have lots of milk (e.g. the morning) you can feed her from one breast and express the other, then at a time of day when you have less milk (usually the evening) you can give her a breastfeed then give her the expressed milk after your breasts are empty.

      Breastfeeding a newborn baby is a full time job. Rather than worry about how long it takes, put your feet up, watch the TV or listen to the Qur'an or nasheeds, or read a book, and let baby suckle contentedly. Being relaxed also helps greatly for maintaining a good milk supply. A comfy chair for breastfeeding is essential equipment mashaAllah!
      Last edited by dhak1yya; 24-02-08, 02:07 PM.


        Re: breastfeeding thread

        Do like Allah says in the Qur'an and breastfeed for two years:

        Originally posted by which is a facinating article to read all about brain development
        Because of the rapid pace of myelination in early life, children need a high level of fat in their diets--some 50 percent of their total calories--until about two years of age. Babies should receive most of this fat from breast milk or formula in the first year of life, and breastmilk remains an excellent source of liquid nutrition into the toddler years. However, whole cow's milk can be introduced after the first birthday, and provides an excellent source of both fat and protein for toddlers in the second year. After two years of age, children should begin transitioning to a more heart-healthy level of dietary fat (no more than 30 percent of total calories), including lower-fat cow's milk (1 or 2%).
        (myelination = growth of very important cells in the brain which you can read about in the whole artilce.... that link again: )



          breastfeeding sticky thread

          Breastfeeding One's Child

          AUTHOR: ‘Abdus-Salaam bin ‘Abdillaah As-Sulaymaan
          SOURCE: Tarbiyat-ul-Awlaad fee Daw’-il-Kitaabi was-Sunnah (pg. 33-34)
          PRODUCED BY:

          [From the upcoming Al-Ibaanah publication: "Raising Children in Light of the Qur'aan and Sunnah" by 'Abdus-Salaam As-Sulaymaan. The book was introduced and commended by Shaikh Saalih Al-Fawzaan.]


          Afterward, the mother should focus on breastfeeding the newborn child until the age of weaning.

          Natural milk from the mother has a huge effect in the health and upbringing of a child. Allaah instructs the mothers to breastfeed their children for two complete years. This is for those wish to complete the period of breastfeeding. Allaah says:

          “The mothers shall give suck to their children for two whole years (that is) for those (parents) who desire to complete the term of suckling.” [Surah Al-Baqarah: 233]

          The reason for this is because the infant senses the affection of the mother while breastfeeding and he is in need of that.

          Modern medicine has confirmed that there is a high percentage rate of disease and death for those children that were fed in their infancy with processed milk. Natural milk is also advantageous to the mother’s health in terms of mending the uterus after delivery and her digestive system.

          Islaam also encourages it for it permits the breastfeeding mother to break her fast in Ramadaan if the fast will have an effect on her breastfeeding.

          Perhaps one of the reasons why many children are not affectionately attached to their mothers and why there is such widespread disobedience of them in these times is due to the lack of using natural milk and the high use of processed milk.

          Since breastfeeding has such an effect on the child being breastfed, the Prophet (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) prohibited Muslims from employing a dumb woman for the purposing of breastfeeding one’s child. [1]

          Ibn Qaasim, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in Haashiyat-ur-Rawd commenting on this hadeeth: “This is since breastfeeding has an effect on an individual’s nature.” Then he said: “Al-Qaadee mentioned that whoever is breastfed from a stupid woman, the child too will come out being stupid. And whoever is breastfed from a woman with bad manners, it will pass onto him. And whoever is breastfed from an animal, he will come out senseless, like an animal.” [2]

          Ibn Qudaamah, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in al-Mughnee: “It is said: ‘Breastfeeding changes personalities.’”

          So how much more so for those who are fed formula milk which one does not even know the source from where it came or who processed it?

          “The real prisoner is someone whose heart is imprisoned from his Lord; the true captive is someone captured by his passions.” (Ibn Taymiyyah)


            Re: Breastfeeding One's Child

            Originally posted by Al-ghurabah View Post
            sis not tahta simple.. there are some babies which can get a reaction to milk.. so have no choice but to be fed formual milk.. also you have issues with mothers may not be able to produce enough for the kid..
            but islamically and scientifically it is best :up:
            Yeah that is true, although unless the mother is unable to produce any milk at all, she can do mixed feeding, i.e. breast then formula, or breast for one feed, formula for the next. Although if any mother is having problems producing enough milk, she should try to get advice from an expert (preferably a lactation consultant, see breastfeeding organisations for advice) because sometimes supply problems are caused by the baby not latching on correctly - breastfeeding works on a supply and demand system, the more the baby suckles, the more milk is made, so if the baby isn't latching on correctly, as well as causing the breast to be sore, the baby's suckling may not be stimulating the milk supply, so not enough milk is made. Its sad to relate that in the west, a lot of mothers fail to breastfeed because of this :( because there has been a whole generation of women not breastfeeding in the west, so their mother's and female relatives probably have all bottlefed their babies so don't know anything about breastfeeding, and there are not enough midwives and health visitors trained in teaching breastfeeding (though inshaAllah that's improving) and also midwives in maternity hospitals in some parts of the country are so overstretched often there are not enough midwives even to look after all women in labour so they are rarely available to help with breastfeeding. The first ten days are critical for establishing breastfeeding (although some women can still breastfeed even if they don't during this time) and also the time when most problems can occur and it is essential especially for first time mums to have help during this time.

            On the other hand, if the baby is latching on correctly and you are not producing enough milk, so that the baby is constantly suckling, constantly hungry and not putting on weight, then you would need to supplement with formula for some feeds, or after breastfeeding. If she's not producing any milk at all (which does happen occasionally) then she has to feed the baby with formula.

            This should not be confused with the baby doing extra suckling to increase supply, once every few days the baby will seem to be feeding 24/7 and never being full, but then the next day or the day after, inshaAllah the supply of milk will have increased so the baby feeds for much shorter time and is full.


              Re: Mother's milk is best for your baby

              Originally posted by PRANA View Post
              Commenting on the title of this thread being "Mother's milk is best for your baby":
              An infant is not able to synthesize IgA (an antibody) which is a first line of defense against microbes entering through mucosal surfaces (the respiratory, gastrointestinal and genitourinary tracts) and prevents colonization of mucosal surfaces by pathogens and mediates their phagocytosis.

              SO therefore the infant has to rely on passive immunity which compensates for this initial "deficiency" (inability to synthesize IgA in the beginning):

              The infant obtains maternal IgA from colostrum (foremilk) and milk during nursing and this coats the infants gastrointestinal tract and supplies passive mucosal immunity.
              So yea
              Good post :up:

              to put it in less scientific language:

              There is a type of antibody (IgA) which newborn babies can't make for themselves, but which they drink in breastmilk. Colostrum, which is the milk that the mother makes for the first three or four days after the baby is born, is packed full of antibodies. All breastmilk contains antibodies to keep up this protection.

              This particular antibody (IgA) helps protect the gut, lungs, throat, and urinary system from bacteria.

              Formula fed babies are much more likely to get all kinds of infections, especially upset tummies, and chest infections than breastfed babies.


                Re: Mother's milk is best for your baby

                The Qur'an says to breastfeed for two years (although it is permissable to wean before then if both parents consent, and also some babies naturally stop breastfeeding before then)

                The medical evidence shows that babies who are breastfed for two years have protection against chest infections that lasts well into childhood. However, any amount of breastfeeding, even just for a couple of days, offers some protection, because the colostrum that is produced in the early days is so chock full of antibodies. It is also packed with nutrients that a newborn baby needs. Formula milk has nothing that is remotely like colostrum. Normal breast milk tops up the baby's antibodies level, and the longer you feed the baby for, up to two years, the better and longer the protection from infection. Alhamdulillah.


                  breastfeeding advice - latching on

                  Problems latching on

                  One problem that many women face in the first few days is getting baby to latch on. (latch on = getting onto the breast in the correct position to being suckling) Although its tempting to give formula - or a bottle of expressed milk - don't, because it can make the problem worse. Expressed milk can be given from a cup or a syringe (sterilised first!) If a baby is given a bottle too soon, he or she will expect the fast flowing milk of a bottle and will not try as hard to suckle when given the breast. So breastfeeding must be established first (if you intend for example to give baby bottles of expressed milk later on, then don't leave it too late to start giving bottles either, because then baby will only take the breast and refuse bottles. Once your milk supply is established and baby is latching on well, you can introduce bottles of expressed milk for some feeds inshaAllah)

                  Web links describing how to latch baby on: These contain videos, animations or pictures of breastfeeding. They are posted for the benefit of mothers and mothers to be who need to learn how to breastfeed.

                  Information on different ways to hold the baby whilst breastfeeding:

                  Animated video of how to align baby for breastfeeding:
                  Animated video of how to get baby to latch on:
                  Animated video of how to tell if baby is suckling correctly:

                  The above clips are short clips from a DVD about breastfeeding, other clips and how to order the DVD can be found here:

                  An expert describes how to latch a baby on:

                  Some tips:

                  Using either the rugby ball/clutch hold or the cross cradle/crossover hold is better for a baby that is having trouble latching on, as you have baby's head in the palm of your hand, so its easier to position the baby's mouth correctly.

                  If baby really won't open his/her mouth, or won't open it wide enough, wait until baby cries then quickly latch the baby on. The baby stops crying instantly too mashaAllah :)
                  Last edited by dhak1yya; 23-02-08, 09:15 PM.


                    breastfeeding sticky thread

                    A single gene influences whether breastfeeding improves a child's intelligence, say London researchers.

                    Children with one version of the FADS2 gene scored seven points higher in IQ tests if they were breastfed.

                    But the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study found breastfeeding had no effect on the IQ of children with a different version.

                    The gene in question helps break down fatty acids from the diet, which have been linked with brain development.

                    Seven points difference is enough to put the child in the top third of the class, the researchers said.

                    Some 90% of people carry the version of the gene which was associated with better IQ scores in breastfed children.

                    Researchers at the Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College London, used data from two previous studies of breast-fed infants in Britain and New Zealand, which involved more than 3,000 children.

                    IQ was measured at various points between the ages of five and 13 years in the studies. Previous studies on intelligence and breastfeeding have come up with conflicting results.

                    There has been some debate as to whether mothers who had more education or who were from more affluent backgrounds were more likely to breastfeed, skewing the results.

                    Nature versus nurture

                    Professor Terrie Moffitt, a co-author on the paper, said the findings gave a fresh perspective on the arguments by showing a physiological mechanism that could account for the difference between breastfed and bottle-fed babies.

                    "The argument about intelligence has been about nature versus nurture for at least a century," she said.
                    "However, we have shown that in fact nature works via nurture to create better health outcomes."

                    Since the studies used in the analysis were done, manufacturers have begun to add fatty acids to formula milk but there have been inconsistent results on the benefits.

                    Belinda Phipps, of the National Childbirth Trust, said: "This shows for the majority of parents they can have a positive effect on their babies IQ by breastfeeding."

                    Catherine Collins, a dietician at St Georges Hospital in London and spokesperson for the British Dietetic Association, said the study highlighted the interaction between nutrition and genetics.

                    "In this study you have an effect that suggests that nature is more important that nurture.
                    "If nine out of 10 babies benefit, then that is a very good chance."

                    But she added the study did not specify how long babies were breastfed for and it may be that even breastfeeding for a short period may be beneficial for intelligence.

                    Professor Jean Golding, who founded the ALSPAC study set up in the 1990s to follow the development of thousands of children in the South West of England, said the results were fascinating and they would be doing a further study of the gene. "In the past people have had different results about whether breastfeeding improves IQ and this would sort out the reason why," she said.

                    What does 'freedom' mean?

                    Does the eagle want to swim in the sea,
                    Restricted by the sky?

                    Does the fish want to dance on the wind,
                    Not enough river to explore?

                    Yet the sky is freedom for the bird
                    but death for the fish,

                    The sea is wide for the fish
                    but will engulf the bird.

                    We ask for freedom but freedom to do what?
                    We can only express our nature as it was created.

                    The prayer mat of the earth is freedom,
                    freedom from slavery to other than the One,
                    Who offers an shoreless ocean of love to swim in
                    and a horizon that extends to the next life,
                    Yet we chose the prison and call it freedom.

                    “All our handling of the child will bear fruit, not only at the moment, but in the adult they are destined to become.” Donate today!


                      Re: What are the benefits of breastfeed?

                      Originally posted by Saudi Prince View Post
                      Could the child be more kind to his parensts if they are breastfed?!
                      acctually though of course Allahu Alam, the answer is YES, breastfeeding causes a hormone to be released in the mother called oxytocin also called the hormone of love, it is released during orgasim too, it causes feelings of happiness, wellbeing and love, the baby will take this hormone within the milk and associate being breastfed with feelings of love and this is why sometimes the baby looks a lil drunk while feeding, sleepy and o so content, subhannallah!

                      The blessings of brest milk are only just being discovered by scientists who recently found brest milk is acctually a LIVING fluid...!!!

                      it contains anti bodies which protect the baby from disease for the first few weeks of life, perfect nutrition for baby and no waste, almost all of it is digested by the baby and absorbed, the waste is easyily passed through the babies system unlike bottle milk which babies struggle to digest.

                      Longer breastfeeding will help avoid excema and athema or cause them to not be as sever as they could be,

                      also and this is a big thing..

                      some babies are allergic to cows milk and soya...

                      this leaves very little choice in bottle formulas which are based either on cows milk or soya,

                      so breastfeed whenever you can sisters.

                      the average age world wide for babies to be weaned is acctually 4 years...
                      and I know my grandmother brestfed all her babies(all 14 inshaallah) to this age though some returned to Allah before this age.

                      Breastfeeding has extreem benefits for the mother too, preventing breast cancer, preventing excessive bleeding post natally as uterus contracts quicker in a breastfeeding mother, weight loss is also a benefit for some.

                      having milk on tap, the perfect tempreature day and night whereever u r is very convient.

                      and my fav benefit. is

                      allama, the nurse to the Prophet's (sallalahu aleyhi wa salaam) son Ibrahim said, 'O Messenger of God, you have brought tidings of all good things to men, but not to women.' He said, 'Did your women friends put you up to asking me this question?' 'Yes, they did,' she replied, and he said,' Does it not please any one of you that if she is pregnant by her husband and he is satisfied with that, she receives the reward of one who fasts and prays for the sake of Allah? And when her labor pains come, no one in the heavens or the earth knows what is concealed in her womb to delight her? And when she delivers, not a mouthful of milk flows from her, and not a suck does she give, but that she receives, for every mouthful and every suck the reward of one good deed. And if she is kept awake at night by her child, she receives the reward of one who frees seventy slaves for the sake of Allah.'"

                      subhannallah our Lord is indeed Mercyful to us.
                      avatar from deviant art :)

                      bring back PAGAL LADOOOO:up:


                        Re: Parenting books

                        Gina Ford horrible woman.

                        I would recommend Birth and Breastfeeding by Michel Odent and any islamic baby books or raising a family tip books inshaallah.:up:
                        avatar from deviant art :)

                        bring back PAGAL LADOOOO:up:


                          breastfeeding thread

                          Originally posted by someone
                          the milk comes in on day 3/4? what does baby eat before then?
                          colostrum. A little colostrum may leak out from time to time even before baby's born. Its a thick yellowy liquid, full of protein and antibodies for the newborn baby. Labour and suckling trigger its release. Baby has that until the proper milk comes in. You only get a small amount of colostrum produced, maybe just a couple of tablespoons of it per feed, but its all baby needs for the first three days or so, and its chock full of nutrients for baby. Its especially important because its full of antibodies that help protect baby from infection. At the hospital I had my baby in, they had a policy of trying to encourage every mother to at least breastfeed a newborn baby once or twice even if they're totally set on bottle feeding, because of the health benefits of colostrum for the baby.

                          normally the milk comes in on the third day after labour, but if you have a c-section it may take four days.
                          Last edited by dhak1yya; 23-02-08, 06:43 PM.


                            Re: breastfeeding sticky thread

                            links to sites for breastfeeding: Warning: These sites are aimed directly at breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be and as such may not be suitable for brothers.

                            this site has a large amount of very good quality important information about breastfeeding.

                            so does this one:

                            and this one: (LLL)

                            Breastfeeding for twins and multiples:

                            Breastfeeding DVD - very good for learning positioning, latching on and so on, which need to be shown rather than described:

                            LLL breastfeeding support and advice helpline - for mothers who are having problems with breastfeeding: Call 0845 120 2918

                            UK information and support for breastfeeding: You can get country specific information for many other countries via the LLL website above (linked above)
                            Last edited by dhak1yya; 24-02-08, 02:12 PM.


                              Re: breastfeeding sticky thread

                              If anyone who does not have sisters forum access wants help/advice about breastfeeding and you don't want to post the question on a public forum, inshaAllah you can post the question in the sisters helpdesk - its only visible to the sister moderators and the thread starter so it is very private mashaAllah. Several of the sister mods are mothers and breastfed/are breastfeeding our children mashaAllah.