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  • #31
    Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

    Gloucestershire Muslim Welfare Association provide a good updated list on halal and haram foods.

    http://www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.php

    Allah reward them.
    Time beat you to it

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    • #32
      Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

      Alhumdalillah this sort of stuff encourages us to eat and drink healthier
      "If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?"

      http://muslimwiki.com/mw/images/thum...Palestine2.jpg

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      • #33
        Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

        Originally posted by ibn suleman View Post
        Salaams

        how old is that article (FIrefox pageinfo says aug 2005- not sure if that's right)

        the pork gelatine filtration process is used mainly for apple flavour drinks- hence most likely would be apple ribena/lucozade!
        :wswrwb:

        I remember soon after then, that Muslim Weekly (the newspaper) wrote an article on how Ribena and Lucozade (same company) are now halaal; they changed the ingredients or something. I doubt they would re-change the ingredients...

        Originally posted by Nawar View Post
        Im starting to experience ribena withdrawel symptoms now.

        :(
        Yuck, never liked Ribena; it's too strong...

        But Lucozade is nice; I don't drink it that much though.

        Oh and I found these on a forum, for extra information:

        I have recently heard that a number of your products contain alcohol.

        Would you please clarify if this is correct? If so, which type? Thanks


        Response from Lucozade....

        Lucozade Energy and alcohol /alcohol derivatives

        Thank you for your enquiry Lucozade Energy.

        Lucozade Energy sparkling original, lemon, tropical and citrus clear flavours cannot be described as alcohol/alcohol derivative free. Like many soft drinks, ethyl alcohol is used a solvent or carrier for the flavourings used in this product.

        However it is present in trace amounts (less than 0.1% in the product) and is derived form a carbohydrate source. Lucozade Energy sparkling orange glucose drink is alcohol/alcohol derivative free.

        We enclose a list of products which are both animal and alcohol free for your information.

        ALCOHOL AND ANIMAL FACTSHEET

        We enclose a list of our products, which, to the best of our knowledge contain no added alcohol and are free from all animal derived ingredients.

        This list is accurate at present but we encourage our customers to request an updated list every six months.

        *ANIMAL & ALCOHOL FACT SHEET

        The products listed below are, to the best of our knowledge, free from all animal based/derived ingredients and contain no added alcohol.

        LUCOZADE
        Lucozade Orange Sparkling Glucose Drink
        Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Orange Flavour
        Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Lemon Flavour
        LUCOZADE SPORT
        Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
        Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
        Lucozade Sport Mixed Berry Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
        Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
        Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
        Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Carbohydrate Sports Gel
        RIBENA
        Ribena Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
        Ribena 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
        Ribena Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
        Ribena Ready to Drink 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink
        Ribena Ready to Drink Orange Juice Drink
        Ribena Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
        RIBENA TOOTHKIND
        Ribena ToothKind No Added Sugar Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
        Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
        Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
        RIBENA SPARK
        Ribena Spark Sparkling Blackcurrant Flavour Drink

        *Animal based ingredients include milk, eggs and fish products.

        Alcohol is defined as ethyl alcohol or ethanol. We are advised by
        International Trade Federations that products cannot be claimed to be alcohol free as natural fruit flavours and fruit juices may contain naturally occurring alcohol.
        Lucozade and Ribena 'fit for Muslims to consume'

        A leading British organisation on Islamic law has issued a fatwa on Lucozade, saying Muslims can drink the soft drink despite it containing alcohol.

        The religious ruling has been welcomed by the drink's maker, GlaxoSmithKline.

        It sought the judgment after being contacted by Muslims concerned at rumours that Lucozade was made with alcohol. Lucozade does have a trace amount which is permitted by food laws, but Muslims feared that consuming it might breach their religion.

        Ribena was also given the all-clear. The drink was a potential problem for Muslims because during its production process a filter is used made from gelatin, derived from pigs.

        Some Muslims have stopped buying both the drinks.

        The company undertook a five-month process to have both drinks declared halal (clean) under Islamic law. The ruling means that Lucozade and Ribena are the first British soft drinks declared fit for Muslims to consume.

        Lucozade contains 0.01% of ethyl alcohol to ensure the flavouring permeates the whole drink.

        The company approached the UK Muslim Law (Shariah) Council to rule on whether its products were haram (forbidden by Islamic law).

        Its chairman, Zaki Badawi, a former adviser on Islam to the Prince of Wales, concluded: "I see no harm in consuming Ribena and Lucozade which contain traces of ethyl alcohol and animal ingredients that do not bear their original qualities and do not change the taste, colour or smell of the product."

        Tiny amounts of alcohol occur naturally in many drinks and foods, such as bread.

        To reach the ruling the company recreated an incident from the life of the Prophet Muhammad when he drank liquid produced from soaking raisins in water for several days, called nabith. The scientists found that the mixture would ferment, producing alcohol.

        The results of the experiment helped Dr Badawi reach his decision.

        Source
        Muslims get soft drinks go-ahead

        Muslims in the UK have been given permission to consume soft drinks which contain minute traces of alcohol and pork products.

        Under strict interpretation of Muslim law, Lucozade and Ribena were both previously considered to be "unclean".

        Lucozade contains 0.01% ethyl alcohol to aid flavouring, which the Muslim Law Council now says is too small to matter

        Ribena previously used gelatin - a pork by-product - in its production but has now changed its manufacturing methods.

        Long-running dilemma

        The Muslim Law Council - the UK's highest authority on halal (clean) food - consulted earlier rulings by imams on halal food before reaching its decision.

        In the ruling, the Council's chair, Zaki Badawi, said precedents had been set allowing the use of non-halal ingredients in certain cases.

        "I see no harm in consuming Ribena and Lucozade which contain traces of ethyl alcohol and animal ingredients that do not bear their original qualities and do not change the taste, colour or smell of the product," Mr Badawi said.

        In its submission to the Muslim Law Council, the drinks' maker, GlaxoSmithKline, pointed out fruit juices and bread could also contain the same or higher trace amounts of alcohol due to natural fermentation.

        The decision ends a long-running dilemma for some devout Muslims who have avoided buying the brands for fear of breaching religious rules.

        In the wake of the ruling, the British Soft Drinks Association said it would not propose a new labelling policy but some companies might decide to mark their products "halal" to prevent any future confusion.

        A spokesman said: "Soft drinks are non-alcoholic, we welcome this confirmation and hope that it can reassure those consumers who were concerned."

        Source
        Ya Muqallib al-Quloob, thabbit qalbi 'alaa Deenik
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        • #34
          Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

          The fact that there had to be arguements to see whether lucozade was halaal or not should be enough for people to know not to drink it.



          "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


          Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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          • #35
            Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

            ^ But you can't say something that is halaal is haraam. And they've made it clear now; which of their products is halaal/haraam.
            Ya Muqallib al-Quloob, thabbit qalbi 'alaa Deenik
            O' Converter of Hearts, make my heart steadfast upon Thy Way
            We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

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            • #36
              Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

              Originally posted by Safiya View Post
              ^ But you can't say something that is halaal is haraam. And they've made it clear now; which of their products is halaal/haraam.
              Who made it halaal? zaki badawi?



              "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


              Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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              • #37
                Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

                Seriously, look at the opening words of that article,

                Muslims in the UK have been given permission to consume soft drinks which contain minute traces of alcohol and pork products.



                "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                • #38
                  Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

                  ^ Sorry, I guess that wasn't clear. I mean't that GSK listed the drinks that don't contain alcohol; i.e. they split their drinks into containing alcohol/not containing alcohol. Also, they cleared up the gelatine issue.

                  Oh, and I wasn't going on the Badawi one, that was just for reading.
                  Ya Muqallib al-Quloob, thabbit qalbi 'alaa Deenik
                  O' Converter of Hearts, make my heart steadfast upon Thy Way
                  We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

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                  • #39
                    Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

                    Going on this part:

                    *ANIMAL & ALCOHOL FACT SHEET

                    The products listed below are, to the best of our knowledge, free from all animal based/derived ingredients and contain no added alcohol.

                    LUCOZADE
                    Lucozade Orange Sparkling Glucose Drink
                    Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Orange Flavour
                    Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Lemon Flavour
                    LUCOZADE SPORT
                    Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
                    Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
                    Lucozade Sport Mixed Berry Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
                    Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
                    Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
                    Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Carbohydrate Sports Gel
                    RIBENA
                    Ribena Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
                    Ribena 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
                    Ribena Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
                    Ribena Ready to Drink 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink
                    Ribena Ready to Drink Orange Juice Drink
                    Ribena Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
                    RIBENA TOOTHKIND
                    Ribena ToothKind No Added Sugar Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
                    Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
                    Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
                    RIBENA SPARK
                    Ribena Spark Sparkling Blackcurrant Flavour Drink
                    Ya Muqallib al-Quloob, thabbit qalbi 'alaa Deenik
                    O' Converter of Hearts, make my heart steadfast upon Thy Way
                    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

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                    • #40
                      Re: AVOID Ribena & Lucozade

                      can i drink lucozade pink?
                      Narrated by Anas ibn Malik RA: Allah's Messenger :saw: said. "When a woman observes the five times of prayer, fasts during Ramadan, preserves her chastity and obeys her husband, she may enter by any of the gates of Paradise she wishes."

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