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  • Musicisme656
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    Originally posted by extempers View Post
    The deviant sufis also danced around circles and called it worship, so let's be real.
    lol

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  • Al-Mualim
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    :salams

    Hm, I see. I was just wondering what the Islamic view is, but now I understand. Not that I was planning to do drugs..
    just curious.

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  • .mirror.
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    ↑It's haram totally, bro. Don't go there. :insha:

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  • needofknowledg
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    Originally posted by Hekmaa View Post
    I am more suprised at who was asking, then what was being asked.

    Anything that takes a person out of his/her sense is Haram.

    Anything that causes harm to a person is Haram.

    Anything that is a waste is Haram.

    Marijuana, dobe, coc, speed, hash, ice etc are all haram, for all the above three reasons.

    Cigars, Cigarretes, Chilam, Pipe etc are Haram because the are a waste of your money, and they harm your body.



    i dont no much about this subject but i no that wen u smoke marijuana that u dont lose all ur senses completely and that u still feel things around u and u talk to people normally and that is after u finish smoking it, but in the first 5 min after finish smoking u would act a little strange that people would realize that u were high. so would that make it halal because u did not lose ur senses

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  • Kew
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    Well I have been reading this and trying to make my mind up on the subject. I now feel compelled to add a reply in the hope that it will help at least one person on the fence.

    Around 2 years ago I considered trying weed, I had a quick search online to see what people were saying on the subject. Now, quite simply, when you're in this position you often only really pay attention to things people say which confirm what you want to hear. For instance, if you decide you love the look of a new product, perhaps expensive and unnecessary, you may only pay attention to the good reviews and may ignore the other bad ones, in an attempt to justify your purchase. In my opinion this is true when you have a desire to smoke weed. After all alcohol is pretty clearly forbidden, so it would be great if we could find that actually weed is permitted, and then have the experience to be high.

    So anyway, I did convince myself to smoke it. At first I didn't smoke that much, it then eventually escalated until I was smoking alot. I was lying to my parents, it was getting in the way of my studies and I became obsessed, perhaps even 'addicted' to the feeling of being high. Dont try and tell me it does not intoxicate you, as simply put there is no way around the fact that it does! Even if it is different to being drunk, when you are high you know for sure that you are intoxicated.

    I kept telling myself it was okay, but deep inside you sort of know it isn't really. I would pray, say dua for Allah to ensure I was always a good muslim and to enter me into heaven... and then after rushing through this I would go smoke weed. Well Allah answered my dua, and some bad things starting happening to me as a direct result of getting high, namely I was loosing my friends. So even after this began to happen I was not strong enough to stop smoking as I simply loved it too much, but eventually after a few months of deteriorating relationships and mental health (I was paranoid and borderline schizophrenic) I did finally stop smoking allhamdoo Allah before it got even worse.

    So now I have found myself in a position where I am deliberating smoking weed again, so I have been reading this forum today to see what people were saying. Now, people were making some very good points on both sides, and I was really stuck as this time I have tried to have an open mind, as apposed to just looking for people saying what I wanted to hear. I prayed 2 rakkah stikhara and keep saying 'a3ootho bika min al shaytan al rigeem' and asking Allah to keep me on the 'khat al mostakeem'. I wanted to find an answer as I was hoping to smoke tonight, I even tried convincing myself I had glaucoma and I needed the weed! Well despite reading some good points, when I really look inside of me I just know that it's not halal. Try and imagine people performing hajj, and getting high between isha and fajr.

    Please, if you are unsure yourself, please just pray 2 rakkah stikharah and simply ask Allah. What does your instinct tell you, because I imagine deep down you think it is not really allowed too. Remember too to keep an open mind, you might just be reading the 'in favour' comments, but do not do this and you're only fooling yourself. I don't mean to patronise, but bear in mind this is the internet after all, anyone can claim to be anyone/anything and say what the please.

    To sum up, in my opinion weed is haram. At the end of the day it makes you high, and no matter how you spin it this is being intoxicated and clouding your mind. It may not always but it can do damage to you, I cant speak for the physical damage but it can damage your mental health for sure. You should not be justifying what is made haram by explaining why in fact it is not because of x y z. When Allah says something is haram, that does not mean it is up for debate. We must agree that weed intoxicates you. We can also agree that intoxicants are haram in Islam. Common sense and instict should also be telling you that you shouldn't really be smoking weed.

    Another note to other muslims who are promoting the idea that weed is not haram. You have chosen to interpret Islam how you want and have made the decision that you will smoke weed. I'm sure you will acknowledge that you cannot be 100% confident that you are right and you may actually be wrong, and are going against Islam. With this in mind, I suggest to you that you do not try convince others that weed is not haram, for if in fact it is, you will I'm sure be held responsible for leading others down the wrong path.


    Brothers remember, this worldly life is but a minute fraction of what we will experience in the here-after insha Allah. When we are resurrected we will remember this life as but a dream. Bear this mind when considering whether or not weed is haram.

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  • -MA-
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    Originally posted by amir2e View Post
    It doesnt intoxicate anything, it's a plant that is ised to treat tumors amd cancers and in some cases releive pain, though there isn't much proof to what they say.
    Bro, many brothers have been there before with the arguments of "a little is good for you", "it helps you relax", "it's not an intoxicant", "Muslims wore clothes made from hemp", "it helps me understand Qur'an better" etc etc - The fact is, it bogs the mind down and intoxicates.

    The solid resin is laced with chemicals, rubber, bin liner etc. Strong strains of bud can bring out psychological problems! Not too mention the side effects of psychological addiction, memory loss, slowed response, damage to lungs

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  • amir2e
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    It doesnt intoxicate anything, it's a plant that is ised to treat tumors amd cancers and in some cases releive pain, though there isn't much proof to what they say.

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  • amir2e
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    I have a lot of medical knowledge, but I would say that smoking of cannabis is haram bit getting it in you in any other way is halal, since cannabis is actually healthy for your brain cekl production and doesn't affect you in any way that will mess up your judgement. I'm assuming since Muslims created medicines for over a thousand years, thry would see yhat some herbs have bemefits.
    Cannabis is nothing like alcohol.
    Most normal people who take it in any way will not have any affects at all, but ot is actually killing of star shaped cells in your brain and creating more round cells.
    It' been used medically in China for thousands of years and in South America for even longer.

    Since prophet Muhammad (SAW) died, Muslim scientists used cannabis for medicines.
    Also, cannabis isn't a relaxant or an intoxicant. Go look at it's chemical structure if you don't believe me.

    stupid teenagers ruined it for everyone by getting drunk and smoking cannabis.

    As long as you are treating a problem you should be fine. Don't. make use of it recreational
    Last edited by amir2e; 23-11-11, 07:48 PM.

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  • Abdur.Rahman
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    Lol i remember when my a friend told me, when he is high he has more khosu (sincerity). people and their excuses..

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  • al-siddiq
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    Originally posted by Gyatso4D View Post
    Salaam,

    Actually.. most of you are incorrect.
    Muslims, you classify marijuana incorrectly.
    It is NOT an intoxicant..
    In fact marijuana, hash, and cannabis related products are relaxants..
    The Prophet sallallahu wa alayhi wa sallam forbade the use of intoxicants AND RELAXANTS.
    Don't get me wrong you mj advocates..
    I dont believe its bad in that it doesnt really harm the body..
    Studies have shown that marijuana has the potential to do more good than harm and the all the negative claims made about it have yet to be proved, i.e. no studies have shown that marijuana diminishes short term memory.. there are some memory deficits that occur while using cannabis, however once its cleared from the system there hasnt been evidence to show that its done any harm.
    Marijuana is haraam because it forces you to turn to it for relief and relaxation instead of salah and worship of Allah.
    Most muslims classify it as an intoxicant because most people dont actually understand the plant.
    Im a neuroscience student at my university and so Ive done plenty of studies myself in and out of the lab. ;)

    Salaam!

    Ps. try checking this website out!
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/115761
    Wa Aalaikum Assalam

    That which intoxicates the mind is haram to ingest. Marijuana, as far as I know, intoxicates the mind (ie impairs decision making).

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  • Gyatso4D
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    Salaam,

    Actually.. most of you are incorrect.
    Muslims, you classify marijuana incorrectly.
    It is NOT an intoxicant..
    In fact marijuana, hash, and cannabis related products are relaxants..
    The Prophet sallallahu wa alayhi wa sallam forbade the use of intoxicants AND RELAXANTS.
    Don't get me wrong you mj advocates..
    I dont believe its bad in that it doesnt really harm the body..
    Studies have shown that marijuana has the potential to do more good than harm and the all the negative claims made about it have yet to be proved, i.e. no studies have shown that marijuana diminishes short term memory.. there are some memory deficits that occur while using cannabis, however once its cleared from the system there hasnt been evidence to show that its done any harm.
    Marijuana is haraam because it forces you to turn to it for relief and relaxation instead of salah and worship of Allah.
    Most muslims classify it as an intoxicant because most people dont actually understand the plant.
    Im a neuroscience student at my university and so Ive done plenty of studies myself in and out of the lab. ;)

    Salaam!

    Ps. try checking this website out!
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/115761

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  • mooxie
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    Salam alaikum

    In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent the Most Merciful.

    I am rather surprised at how many people are passing off their own quick opinion as fact supported by the Qur'an. I am a revert for about a year now. Before that I smoked for about a year. To be honest, it chilled me out and made me less high strung from the stress of poverty and hard times. I also felt that it did improve my drawing and creativity. Unlike other drugs and alcohol, marijuana is a plant put on this earth by Allah subhana wa ta'ala. If you say that ingesting it causes any harm to body you are flat out lying, sorry. But before I get on to proving my point more I want to tell a little bit about myself.

    When I reverted, I was at the lowest point of my life. But the lowness only really started when I began partaking in social drinking and taking other drugs before clubbing. I was never like this before. My husband and I (bf+gf at the time) were trying too much to be part of the people around us and allowed ourselves to be dragged down to that level. Otherwise I was always a person with very high morals. Anyway, when I reverted, I gave up all of it and took it upon myself to learn everything necessary to being a good muslim and not committing sins. Most reverts are like this and end up being ultra conservative at first in order to not make any mistakes. But as you begin to experience more you can see flaws and truths easier than maybe other muslims who are born into the culture of Islam. I've had people pull all sorts of hadiths on me to prove things that didn't seem right. Oh you can't pluck your eyebrows at all, can't listen to music, dogs are unclean, a period more than 10 days and you have to return to prayer... lots of stuff that didn't make sense but at first I followed.

    MY husband was the first to question me on hadiths and I fought back strong. But his proofs were very interesting and it made me look into it. **In general, there are many hadiths that contradict the Qur'an.** If you research this you will find it to be true. No offense to people who follow it and find it hard to break from their culture. I am not doing this in order to be "liberal" or "modern". I Just believe that I want to follow Islam the way Allah and only Allah wanted me to.

    So back to marijuana. At this point, I think using hadith about intoxicants is pointless. State it from the Qur'an and only from the Qur'an.
    Now we are down to the quote from the Qur'an that speaks of al-khamr [5:90] which everyone so easily translates to "intoxicants" but is more genuinely translated to (with a little research): Wine, the strong drink, and comes from a verb "to ferment". Now that is OBVIOUSLY speaking about Alcohol. We all learned from the mishaps of the Bible that translation errors can lead to misinterpretations such as Muhammed's (SAWS) name being translated to the Holy Ghost. It leads to an entirely different interpretation of what is being said. In [5:91] Allah says "Shaitan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from As-Salat (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?". Now enmity(a feeling or condition of hostility; hatred; ill will; animosity; antagonism) and hatred can be caused by alcohol, but is that true of marijuana? Does shaitan use marijuana to bring about hatred and other ill feelings in your heart? No, he doesn't, because anyone who has ever consumed marijuana in any way knows that it does not cause any of these effects. You may say that these could happen between drug dealers etc, but that is only because of a society that criminalizes it. If it were legal to consume in the privacy of your own home then there would be no such problems.

    [4:43] "Oh you who believe! do not approach prayers with a mind befogged until you can understand all that you say..."
    Another point is, how are all forms of intoxication haram when Allah says clearly to make sure you have reclaimed your mind from intoxication before praying? It would seem that Allah would say "All intoxication is unlawful and you will burn in a fiery hell" a hundred times before ever making this statement if the claim that "all intoxicants are haram" were true. Allah would not allude that his followers are intoxicating themselves against his wishes without some sort of speech of their punishment afterward. He is actually connecting those who believe with those who consume intoxicants. Now I know that in the beginning of Islam, alcohol was not haram, but Allah is all knowing and to say He didn't know the role of each part of the Qur'an is a false lie.

    By reading [16:115-118], you can see how Allah is very explicit in what he makes unlawful. Everything else he has made lawful for us. There are good intentioned people (maybe not unlike the Jews) who deny themselves of what Allah has not explicitly forbid. But that too is wrong and does not please Allah. It actually perpetuates innovation. This is also a very important point because it talks about how meats that are unlawful are acceptable if it is based on need. Allah does not put undue hardships on us and I try to remember this every time I look at Islamic laws. So those who face medical conditions that can be helped by marijuana are definitely not kept from helping themselves.

    [5:87] O ye who believe! make not unlawful the good things which Allah hath made lawful for you, but commit no excess: for Allah loveth not those given to excess.

    Now if you consume marijuana because it is not al-khamr, you should enjoy it but avoid excess use. Allah has never promoted excess and tells us that excess does not lead to good, even when it is something lawful. Allah continues throughout the Qur'an telling us to enjoy of what He has not forbid (not in excess) and to remember Him and worship Him. A lot of these Islamic laws taken from hadith complicate Islam and take us away from the purpose of life which is obeying Allah and worshiping him. As long as we do that we are free to do what we want in life. There are so many excessive and arbitrary rules that bog down Islam, making people divide into sects and think they are superior to other muslims. As long as you do what you believe is right and seek forgiveness and understanding from Allah, it shouldn't matter what anyone else thinks.

    So in essence, the best bet is to follow the word of God. Hadith are tales not authorized by God. They should be left out of the conversation and your opinion.

    [6:38] There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.

    But if you still want to look to hadith for answers then look to these. The Qur'an is enough guidance for all of us:

    "1. The exalted Prophet said, LA TAKTABU 'ANNI GHAIR-AL-QUR'AN. WA MUN KATABA 'ANNI GHAIR-AL-QUR'AN FAL-YAMAHU. (Write nothing from me but the Qur'an, and whoever has written anything other than the Qur'an must erase it." ("Saheeh" Muslim)

    [It was narrated from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "Do not write anything from me other than the Qur'an. Whoever has written anything from me other than the Qur'an, must erase it." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Zuhd wa'l-Raqaa'iq, 5326)]

    2. Hazrat Abdullah Ibn Abbas was asked what the Prophet (S) had left behind (for the Ummah). He answered, "He left nothing but what is between these two covers, the Qur'an." (Bukhari vol 3, Kitab Fazaail Al-Qur'an)

    3. Sahaba Kiraam said, "Whatever we used to hear from Rasoolullah (S), we used to write it. Then, one day, Rasoolullah came forth to us and asked, "What is this that you write?" We answered, "Whatever we hear from you." He admonished, "Are you writing another book by the Book of Allah? Keep the Book of Allah pure and free of all doubt." Then, whatever we had written, we gathered it and burned it in an open field." (Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal, Tadween Hadith page 249 by Maulana Manazir Ahsan Gilani)

    4. Hazrat Abu Bakr gathered people after the death of Rasoolullah (S) and said, "Do you people narrate Ahadith from Rasooullah (S) and then dispute about them? Never ascribe anything to Rasoolullah. If someone asks you a question, say 'Sufficient between you and us is the Book of Allah. Act upon the Permissible and non-Permissible given in this Book'. (Tazkara-til-Haffaaz by Imam Zahabi, Tadween Hadith page 321)

    5. Hazrat Ayesha said that Hazrat Abu Bakr had collected the sayings of Rasoolullah and they were 500 in number. One night he was seen very restless. I asked him if he was restless due to some physical illness or had he received bad news. Hazrat Abu Bakr waited until the morning, then asked Hazrat Aisha to bring that collection of Hadith, called for fire and burned it." (Tadween Hadith page 285 on)

    6. Hazrat Umar said to people, "I had thought of getting the Ahadith written, but then I thought of those nations that have passed on before you. They wrote books and fell on them, and left the scripture of Allah alone. By God, I do not want to mix anything with the Book of Allah. (Tadween Hadith page 394)

    7. When the number of Ahadith started increasing during the time of Hazrat Umar, he told people to bring their collections to him. Following his command, people brought their collections. Then he commanded to burn them. (Tabaqat inn Sa'ad, vol. 5 page 141, Tadween Hadith 399)

    8. We do not find any collection of Ahadith at the end of Khilafat Rashida. [Hasan Basari] "


    So tl;dr; The Qur'an only specifically says alcoholic drink. Even so what is lawful should not be done in excess. If you are making things unlawful on yourself against what Allah has said, you are creating innovation and only harming yourself. If you seek answers in hadith to add to the word of God, them you are deeming the Qur'an incomplete and not all-inclusive and what good is that? If you believe you are right in seeking hadith to clarify this because they are words of the Prophet (SAWS) then look to the hadith where Muhammed (SAWS) and Abu Bakr and Umar have all told against writing hadith and having books supplemental to the Qur'an.

    References:
    http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah5.html
    http://islam.about.com/od/health/f/alcohol.htm
    My Qur'an translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
    http://www.ourbeacon.com/cgi-bin/bbs...14123119168153

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  • BrightLight
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    I must tell you that Marijuana has some positive effects on a human being, but I believe it is haraam to let it all be about MJ waste your money, and be associated to people who may have bad intentions and to smoke every day , but Marijuana on the otherside can help you with some difficulties in life, it can work as a therapeutic substance and you can get things even in your mind when something troubles you from the past or... So i would say that Marijuana as a medicine is ok because it relieves pain physically but also mentally, but abusive use of it is far away from His will and to determine medical use it is only when there is a real need, no made up reasons to get high is accepted, you are not fooling anybody but yourself.

    I have to ask how many of you members drink coffee or tea? they both are very intoxicant tea less and coffee more , has that ever crossed your mind ? stop drinking them if you really believe what you say yourself .... And stop the _useless_ arguementing, you should develop opinions that don't create tension between any human beings and study the subjects yourself before you arguement. Main reason why intoxicating youself is haraam is because of the behavior that it provokes...

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  • inforayssan
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    yes its really harmful i would suggest that take Vaporizer instead of marijuana

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  • Jibrail3
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    Originally posted by ammarhaq View Post
    .

    as for praying while stoned- astagfurullah.

    i dont pray while im stoned. in fact the last time i did smoke it was a small amount after isha. you do not feel it when u get up for fajr. is ti wrong for me to smoke this after isha? i have no more salah to do and the day is done.
    AsSalamuAlaikum

    I actually was trying to find out whether it's okay to Pray while stoned or smoked but sober enough to know what your saying. In the Quran, before Alcohol became forbidden, Allah (SWT) only forbid one to pray when drunk... Until one is sober enough to know what they are saying.

    Allah then later forbids it completely. I believe Cannabis is haram due to it's affects in many aspects. However, I know one that wants to quite, but is not finding it so easy, he still wants to pray, but saying he don't feel comfortable. I couldn't give an answer, thought id do research.

    Peace, Love and Blessings :)
    Last edited by Jibrail3; 19-03-11, 11:34 PM.

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