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  • #16
    Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

    Originally posted by Silent being View Post
    Do you ever agree to anything?
    But I do think he has a point though...
    ...And he who fears Allah - He will make for him a way out. [65:3]
    "Put your trust in Allah, certainly, Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him)."
    :love: [Al-Imran 3:159] :love:

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    • #17
      Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

      Allah judges hearts and deeds, not wealth or looks


      Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not look at your appearance or wealth, but rather he looks at your hearts and actions.”

      Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2564

      Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

      http://dailyhadith.abuaminaelias.com...t-and-actions/
      Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children...

      -Quran (57:20)

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      • #18
        Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

        Originally posted by quark View Post
        Or eg being born in western societies. Darn those youngsters.
        Exactly. Why do they choose to be born amongst the kufaar? That's a manhaj violation right there.

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        • #19
          Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

          Originally posted by quark View Post
          But that was your entire point...
          It's not about who invented what akhi. The prophet (saw) and the sahaba used to wear long garments and the closest clothing we have to that is thobes not some tight yellow chinos. That's my point basically.

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          • #20
            Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

            Originally posted by Thunder94 View Post
            Right, but you sort of implied it is wrong to expect a woman to wear hijab if you yourself aren't dressed like a Muslim. Hijab is obligatory whereas dressing like a Muslim for a male isn't, right? Like, we're free to wear a t-shirt for example. Not following the Sunnah in certain aspects doesn't make one sinful does it? So I don't think the comparison to something obligatory like hijab works here. But I do fully understand your point on giving sisters motivation to continue what they're doing when they see a brother dressed that way.

            Yeah, Muslims didn't come up with that, but is there something wrong with that though? It's not sinful to want to dress in the western way, provided it's within the boundaries of what Islam's dress code, right?

            :jkk: akhi



            I think [MENTION=127346]quark[/MENTION] has a point here.
            Yes akhi I agree with you. The clothing for males and females shouldn't be compared. I mentioned it for point's sake.

            :brf:

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            • #21
              Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

              https://islamqa.info/en/126692
              ...And he who fears Allah - He will make for him a way out. [65:3]
              "Put your trust in Allah, certainly, Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him)."
              :love: [Al-Imran 3:159] :love:

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              • #22
                Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                It doesn't help if youngsters immerse themselves in the culture of the kufaar e.g. watching movies and anime.
                Definitely.

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                • #23
                  Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                  Originally posted by RaNdOm View Post
                  A thobe is not sunnah clothing but it does look nice allahumma baarik

                  But a lot of people will fall into the trap of thinking the person must be a religious practicing brother if he wears one

                  If you go to Brixton, allahumma baarik they are on it, the bros are slicked out with thobes way above their ankles, big beards, looking as 'Muslim' as they can, but the same bros are beating their wives, abusing them etc

                  Whilst outward appearance does have a place and I understand what you are saying in terms of motivating each other, just be careful and look at manners/actions when befriending someone more than how 'Muslim' they appear to be

                  I think it's off putting for women anyway if a man looks like he's put too much effort into his appearance so those hipster ones :vomit:
                  Yes the those itself is not the sunnah but it resembles the clothes of the sunnah as it is long and loose.

                  I understand the point you mentioned about clothing not reflecting someone's imam and character but my point is that we should try and follow the sunnah outwardly, inwardly goes without saying but people seem to forget that the prophet (saw) advised us on our appearance.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                    Originally posted by Pippin1376 View Post
                    Thobe and abayah are fashion too. The thobe is definitely not sunnah, in the sene that the Prophet (SAW) wore it, but it is good because it's loose. If someone wore jeans and a tshirt but it was loose, then that would be okay too.

                    The hadith talks more about imitating the religious garb and not every day clothing that changes from culture to culture. We're told what the requirements are and if your clothing fits then it's okay.
                    :jkk: it's the loose concept that's part of the sunnah. When I mention trousers in this day and age, it's the tight ones.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                      Originally posted by Thunder94 View Post
                      :wswrwb:

                      I understand your point, but women are required to dress that way. A brother wearing fashion clothes doesn't really compare imo, since there is more leniency on the male dress code. Not talking about the skin tight jeans, but the other stuff you mentioned.

                      Also, is wearing big framed glasses or whatever the latest fashion trend out there really imitating the kuffar? In that case, is wearing jeans / t shirt also imitating them? I don't think people associate those things with the kuffar.
                      Dress which way?

                      There's many sisters who wear the headscarf and think that's it, the hijab done, then wear right fit clothing, or worse short skirts etc...

                      Then you have others with massive camel hump Hijaabs...

                      Facepalm
                      http://www.ilovepalestine.com/campai...imesinGaza.gif

                      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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                      • #26
                        Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                        Originally posted by deen1984 View Post
                        Allah judges hearts and deeds, not wealth or looks


                        Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not look at your appearance or wealth, but rather he looks at your hearts and actions.”

                        Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2564

                        Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

                        http://dailyhadith.abuaminaelias.com...t-and-actions/
                        It's not even time for dhur and you've already won the award for most misleading post of the day. Congratulations.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                          Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                          It doesn't help if youngsters immerse themselves in the culture of the kufaar e.g. watching movies and anime.
                          True, they get brainwashed and don't even realise how it affects their mentality,

                          :jkk:
                          http://www.ilovepalestine.com/campai...imesinGaza.gif

                          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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                          • #28
                            Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                            Originally posted by Deeni Akh View Post
                            السلام عليكم

                            The prophet (saw) said: "من تشبه بقوم فهو منهم" "whoever resembles a people will be from amongst them"

                            I see many brothers nowadays clean shaven or with a very thin beard wearing tight trousers and big framed glasses. Where did they get this appearance from? Even practising brothers who attend the masjid have become sucked into this fashion and resemble the kuffar completely. And now due to the beard being in fashion, many brothers keep the beard but will wear skin tight trousers with massive boots just to be in line with the latest trend, not to mention it takes heaps away from their manhood.

                            Another point is that we expect the sisters to wear hijab just like the prophet's wives and the bros are dressing like some next hipster. Is this justice? We need to give stength to each other, when sisters see brothers in Islamic appearance, it motivates them to continue to wear the hijab as they'll think that there are other people who share the struggle of standing out just like them. Likewise, sisters who wear hijab/niqab give strength to the brothers and inspire them follow the sunnah in their appearance. We're in this together.

                            I understand maybe for work/university you have to wear general western clothing but at least when you go to the masjid or whenever you go out for anything else, wear a thobe keep your trousers above your ankles and keep the beard.

                            You are a muslim and you are men and your appearance is the sunnah, not those hipsters or celebrities.

                            Just some bro love advice :)


                            :jkk:
                            :wswrwb:

                            Good reminder, brother.

                            :jkk:


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                            • #29
                              Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                              Originally posted by deen1984 View Post
                              Allah judges hearts and deeds, not wealth or looks


                              Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not look at your appearance or wealth, but rather he looks at your hearts and actions.”

                              Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2564

                              Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

                              http://dailyhadith.abuaminaelias.com...t-and-actions/
                              :jkk: but there are also guidelines on how a Muslim should dress.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Imitating the appearance of the kuffar

                                Originally posted by deen1984 View Post
                                Allah judges hearts and deeds, not wealth or looks


                                Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not look at your appearance or wealth, but rather he looks at your hearts and actions.”

                                Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2564

                                Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

                                http://dailyhadith.abuaminaelias.com...t-and-actions/
                                This is extremely misleading, I advise you to fear Allah brother

                                Are you insinuating with this post that believing men and women do not have an obligation to cover their awrah with loose clothing, and differentiate themselves from kuffar?
                                وَمَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ وَالْأَرْضُ جَمِيعًا قَبْضَتُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وَالسَّمَاوَاتُ مَطْوِيَّاتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ ۚ سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
                                They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him. (Az-Zumar: 67)

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