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  • InTheBegining
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    Originally posted by obaid_m View Post
    What PILL are you talking???
    Paracetomal.

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  • Ibn-Adam
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    Originally posted by Camille2016 View Post
    This is a personal opinion but in my parents town in the times of my mothers grandma and before, and I know it by oral transmission and because I checked the records of registers, there was never cancer. Since the pill exists almost all women over 50 have breast cancer or ovary cancer. And most of them have quists in the ovaries. Something that never happened before.
    Confounders in data make interpretation murky - perhaps, for example, toxins in modern food and contemporary atmosphere post industrialisation inducing cancer and onset of widespread contraceptive use merely coincided. A friend in cancer biology did remark that oestrogen/progesterone profiles differ in breast cancer populations in places such as rural India where contraceptive use lower as compared to the US/Western Europe. Early days and even expert opinion weak in comparison to robust trials. We need not modern research however to prove to us the benefits of living a lifestyle close to that of the Anbiya - and following especially the rich evidence of the sunnah through the words and actions of the Nabi Muhammad SAW. In ibaadah - from prayer to diet to inter-personal relations to seeking refuge from anxiety/despair in tawakkul and more besides..

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  • Camille2016
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    This is a personal opinion but in my parents town in the times of my mothers grandma and before, and I know it by oral transmission and because I checked the records of registers, there was never cancer. Since the pill exists almost all women over 50 have breast cancer or ovary cancer. And most of them have quists in the ovaries. Something that never happened before.

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  • Ibn-Adam
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    Asalaamu alaikum


    Scandinavian population studies respected due to comprehensive and meticulous record keeping allowing for fascinating retrospective insights.


    Psychiatrists oft find that those presenting to them with perturbations of mood have one or other organic underlying cause. These can range from disordered thyroid hormone levels to anaemia to menstrual cycle imbalances. Given that contraceptives deliberately alter these cycles to suppress ovulation, the increased prescription of antidepressants in such patients illuminating. The variability with age and type of contraceptive also useful and worthwhile perusing even simply the abstract (available online for free) for a synopsis of results as below:




    [Results A total of 1 061 997 women (mean [SD] age, 24.4 [0.001] years; mean [SD] follow-up, 6.4 [0.004] years) were included in the analysis. Compared with nonusers, users of combined oral contraceptives had an RR of first use of an antidepressant of 1.23 (95% CI, 1.22-1.25). Users of progestogen-only pills had an RR for first use of an antidepressant of 1.34 (95% CI, 1.27-1.40); users of a patch (norgestrolmin), 2.0 (95% CI, 1.76-2.18); users of a vaginal ring (etonogestrel), 1.6 (95% CI, 1.55-1.69); and users of a levonorgestrel intrauterine system, 1.4 (95% CI, 1.31-1.42). For depression diagnoses, similar or slightly lower estimates were found. The relative risks generally decreased with increasing age. Adolescents (age range, 15-19 years) using combined oral contraceptives had an RR of a first use of an antidepressant of 1.8 (95% CI, 1.75-1.84) and those using progestin-only pills, 2.2 (95% CI, 1.99-2.52). Six months after starting use of hormonal contraceptives, the RR of antidepressant use peaked at 1.4 (95% CI, 1.34-1.46). When the reference group was changed to those who never used hormonal contraception, the RR estimates for users of combined oral contraceptives increased to 1.7 (95% CI, 1.66-1.71).


    Conclusions and Relevance Use of hormonal contraception, especially among adolescents, was associated with subsequent use of antidepressants and a first diagnosis of depression, suggesting depression as a potential adverse effect of hormonal contraceptive use.]


    What can we learn beyond this?

    Remember that all medication has effects we appreciate and those we do not. The latter termed "side effects" but are secondary only to the extent that we do not want them. Sildenafil (Viagra) originally intended to treat hypertension. Today a blockbuster drug for that originally deemed a "side effect".

    Know that anti-depressants are over prescribed and mild depression benefits similarly from placebos - medication should be reserved for more sever cases. First line guidance for mild and moderate Depression includes Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. AKA a form of talking therapy. An opportunity to reflect and understand one's coping mechanisms and learn to favour and build upon the positive therein.The beautiful Guidance we have from our Creator, the nasiha therefrom we are exhorted to share with our fellow believers and the asking of and surrender to our Rabb is the best place to begin.

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  • obaid_m
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    Oh nevermind.

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  • obaid_m
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    The Pill linked to depression

    What PILL are you talking???

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  • neelu
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    I used to know a non Muslim girl in her late teens who was quite overweight and she said it was due to the pill. She had some sort of problem with very irregular periods and so her Dr suggested that she took the pill to regulate it (she wasn't taking it for birth control), but it made her weight shoot up. Eventually she realised it was more hassle than it was worth and the irregular periods were easier to handle than the side effects of the pill, so she stopped taking the pill and her excess weight started really falling off. She showed me a pair of her old jeans which were huge and sooo loose on her cos' of the weight she'd lost since stopping the pill. She didn't mention depression although it doesn't surprise me cos' depression can often be a symptom of thyroid or other hormonal imbalances.

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  • EenieMeanie
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    Originally posted by Sarah5 View Post
    So they fast all Ramadan at one go
    I know, sis. I was just wondering, like you, whether that's allowed Islamically or not hmm

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  • Sarah5
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    Originally posted by EenieMeanie View Post
    Heard about that too - I know there are women with abnormally long periods who do this but the people choosing to do this as a strategy to avoid making up fasts hmmm...:scratch:
    So they fast all Ramadan at one go

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  • EenieMeanie
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    Originally posted by Sarah5 View Post
    Some during Ramadan so they don't have to make up their fasts. Not too sure about the ruling for that
    Heard about that too - I know there are women with abnormally long periods who do this but the people choosing to do this as a strategy to avoid making up fasts hmmm...:scratch:

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  • Sarah5
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    Originally posted by EenieMeanie View Post
    Not surprised.

    Hormones should not be messed with in healthy women.

    I know people who deliberately take it during exam season so they don't have any distractions -- that's madness.
    Some during Ramadan so they don't have to make up their fasts. Not too sure about the ruling for that

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  • EenieMeanie
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    Originally posted by EenieMeanie View Post
    Not surprised.

    Hormones should not be messed with in healthy women.

    I know people who deliberately take it during exam season so they don't have any distractions -- that's madness.
    By 'distractions' I meant so they don't menstruate.

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  • Sarah5
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    Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
    Yeah. Don't trust it, and don't think I'd let my wife use it.
    I would never use it unless for medical reasons. Some scholars prohibit it due to it causing harm to a woman's body (I don't recall any woman saying she feels 'great' on the pill) some say to just avoid it. The way the pill works is it increases progesterone in a woman so that the lining is so thick, the egg cannot attach to get fertile (there are some that even stop periods). Even if it was completely halal by all scholars, I would not use it, it is unnatural and it has too many side effects involving the psyche (mood swings, different emotions, depression) and the weight gain isn't appealing either. Physical barriers are much better as they do not alter anything.

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  • EenieMeanie
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    Not surprised.

    Hormones should not be messed with in healthy women.

    I know people who deliberately take it during exam season so they don't have any distractions -- that's madness.

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  • Stoic Believer
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    Originally posted by Sarah5 View Post
    Is it not mentioned on the side effects?

    The pill can have really nasty side effects, mood changes, break outs, weight gain, it's probably due to the altering of the female's hormones
    Yeah. Don't trust it, and don't think I'd let my wife use it.

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