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  • ISAupNorth
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by candyapple View Post
    Hey :)

    Th reason why the western muslims wear western style clothes is simply to do with the natural inclination of wanting to fit in.

    It's human nature.

    However that being said we can wear western clothes but they need to be loose on us. And we need to style it out in a way that doesn't show off our bodies.

    For the muslimahs who are comfy with jilbaab... good on u :)
    But who really wants to fit in with the kuffar,except the kuffar?

    I don't mind feeling like a stranger in a strange land,even though I was born and raised here.

    Muslims need to start being proud of their religion instead of being ashamed and hiding it.

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  • candyapple
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by ISAupNorth View Post
    Salam alaikum


    Maybe it's just me but I hate the trend of hijabis in the west of thinking that "hijab" is a headscarve and any thing else beside that is "extra"

    Modesty should start at the waist down,the hair should be the absolute last thing women should worry about covering. No guy ever gets excited by, hair most men when the check a women out look at below the waist and chest. I've heard lot of what kuffar men say and Never once ever did I here"check her out,she has beautiful hair' or "what an amazing pony tail or "Can you believe the locks on that lass"
    Never,I just made all that up as an example

    I've notice that most women who wear "hijab" here put on a headscarf and other wise dress like the kuffar,I see kuffar women dress more modestly sometimes(and a lot less as well,more often)

    Is it because that they're in the west that they need to compete with kuffaar women

    and showing cleavage while wearing a headscarf is NEVER appropriate I consider that to be mocking Islam.

    Whats next,short shorts and aheadscarf?

    Aoutha billah

    Ok rant over,thank you for your time
    Hey :)

    Th reason why the western muslims wear western style clothes is simply to do with the natural inclination of wanting to fit in.

    It's human nature.

    However that being said we can wear western clothes but they need to be loose on us. And we need to style it out in a way that doesn't show off our bodies.

    For the muslimahs who are comfy with jilbaab... good on u :)

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  • Alina15
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    From "not wearing hijab" to "beautify themselves, wearing attractive clothes, using a lot of make-up" there's a big gap btw. And it's a huge difference.

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  • Sister_2009
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    I wanted to elaborate a bit more on this. I got a good rep comment, but my thoughts are too long for a return rep, so I'll post here.

    One of the many positives of wearing hijab is dawah opportunities. People will approach and ask why you're wearing it, etc. This was actually something really difficult for me. I'm not the talkative type. I feel very uncomfortable speaking to someone about my beliefs or feelings. For me, it feels as though I'm pushing my thoughts on that person or being oppressive. Logically, I know that's incorrect, because they're asking me, but I don't feel good about it. The other thing is that when you're a white person, or European looking, people really don't expect this type of clothing from you. It's like they have a certain image of who should be dressed this way, and you don't fit it. They make you feel like a psycho or a traitor, or like someone who only wears this because you're married to an Arab or something. Ahh. This whole thing makes me extremely uncomfortable. See, I always say it's not the hijab that makes life hard, it's people and their reactions to it.

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  • Magic.
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by ISAupNorth View Post
    Brother please don't compare yourself to a transvestite and please don't admire them,for any reason.

    Bravery and courage to be righteous in an unrighteous time is not like the foolishness of flaunting the Warnings of punishment from ALLAH.

    Not even remotely the same thing. I get what your saying "hey if a faggot can be so bold why can't I" I understand what your getting at but remember your NOTHING like them and say Alhamdulillah for that
    Yeah I agree.

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  • ISAupNorth
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by Magic. View Post
    But it starts from the bottom. If one of them changes, the rest will fall like dominoes.

    I changed because of friends.

    .............


    That's why I admire these trans, I know shoot me for saying this, but they go out being a man dressed as a woman confidently and these gay men I know from work who wore mini-skirts and see through tops, and I think if they have the confidence to do such a haraam even in the environment today where they do generally get stared at, then that just exposes how lame I am in trying to identify myself and encourage others to adhere to Islam outside.
    Brother please don't compare yourself to a transvestite and please don't admire them,for any reason.

    Bravery and courage to be righteous in an unrighteous time is not like the foolishness of flaunting the Warnings of punishment from ALLAH. aza wajal

    Not even remotely the same thing. I get what your saying "hey if a faggot can be so bold why can't I" I understand what your getting at but remember your NOTHING like them and say Alhamdulillah for that
    Last edited by ISAupNorth; 28-09-16, 10:42 PM.

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  • Sister_2009
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
    :wswrwb:

    Yes, it really is a sad state of affairs.

    First and foremost, brothers need to understand how much of a fitnah this is for our sisters. Similar to how brothers have a hard time lowering their gaze, sisters too have a hard time covering fully. They suffer through immense pressure to look their best, to not look or feel ugly lest they suffer cripplingly low self esteem. Not to mention how they are constantly surrounded by kafir women who are always dressed to impress. The environment can be extremely demoralizing.

    So while yes, what these sisters are doing is very wrong, often times it is not always out of malice toward Islamic rulings. Many times sisters just don't have the confidence or the strength of imaan to cover fully. There are insecurities and fears to deal with as well; some think they will have a hard time getting married if they don't wear makeup or dress a certain way. Other times it's just ignorance of course. And yes there are also some who are liberal and/or modernist in their views toward hijab and have contempt toward what Islam really teaches about this.

    But the point is, it's not as simple as brothers tend to see it. I am by no means condoning or justifying what these sisters are wearing--in fact I hate the way some of these sisters dress--but we should be a little more understanding of the roots of the problem rather than assuming they're all doing it as a mockery of the deen.
    Excellent points made.

    It's incredible, the struggle that comes with wearing hijab, especially if you live in an area that has few Muslims. I never truly knew what it was like to be a minority. You go from fitting in, being unnoticed, being treated like an average person, to being stared at, sometimes called names, sometimes refused service, and even feeling afraid. The psychological effect is so strong. It was very strange, but when I started wearing hijab, I developed a cough. When I visited my sister, she was shocked; said she knew where I was in the store because she could hear me coughing. It was some kind of nervous tic, like I felt that I needed to speak out but couldn't and so I would cough. Hard times indeed.

    Sisters really I believe are doing the best that they can. Not everyone has an ideal situation or the strength to go out looking a certain way. I wish there wasn't always so much focus on what the women are or aren't doing. Not to play blame game at all, but men could do so much more, too.

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  • Fakhri
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
    :wswrwb:

    Yes, it really is a sad state of affairs.

    First and foremost, brothers need to understand how much of a fitnah this is for our sisters. Similar to how brothers have a hard time lowering their gaze, sisters too have a hard time covering fully. They suffer through immense pressure to look their best, to not look or feel ugly lest they suffer cripplingly low self esteem. Not to mention how they are constantly surrounded by kafir women who are always dressed to impress. The environment can be extremely demoralizing.

    So while yes, what these sisters are doing is very wrong, often times it is not always out of malice toward Islamic rulings. Many times sisters just don't have the confidence or the strength of imaan to cover fully. There are insecurities and fears to deal with as well; some think they will have a hard time getting married if they don't wear makeup or dress a certain way. Other times it's just ignorance of course. And yes there are also some who are liberal and/or modernist in their views toward hijab and have contempt toward what Islam really teaches about this.

    But the point is, it's not as simple as brothers tend to see it. I am by no means condoning or justifying what these sisters are wearing--in fact I hate the way some of these sisters dress--but we should be a little more understanding of the roots of the problem rather than assuming they're all doing it as a mockery of the deen.
    :jkk: brother. For me, there's usually an instinctive reaction to seeing a Muslim sister dressed in a way less modest than what is required. Have to remind myself that things aren't as easy for all of us as we'd like them to be.

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  • Magic.
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    But it starts from the bottom. If one of them changes, the rest will fall like dominoes.

    I changed because of friends.

    .............


    That's why I admire these trans, I know shoot me for saying this, but they go out being a man dressed as a woman confidently and these gay men I know from work who wore mini-skirts and see through tops, and I think if they have the confidence to do such a haraam even in the environment today where they do generally get stared at, then that just exposes how lame I am in trying to identify myself and encourage others to adhere to Islam outside.

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  • Ya'sin
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by quark View Post
    wa aleykum assalam



    Maybe not among the vulgar who are impressed by something as effortless as a low cut top.


    He has a point, a man will naturally look at a female's body more than the hair

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  • Ya'sin
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    :wswrwb:

    The title is making it sound like this is only an issue in the West. It's actually a global one.

    Originally posted by Medic View Post
    Lack of Islamic education. The community failed them.
    I'm not a 100% with that but you are right that the community has a huge role to play and can help and prevent certain issues in many ways. But it's not wholly the communities fault if the individuals are not making an effort to understand what hijab is and whether they really want to follow that ruling or not. Or if they just want to follow the latest fashion trends.

    The other thing we have to take into consideration is that most people are educated. Muslims have progressed a lot and even in terms of Islamic education, the new generation know more about Islam than the older generations. They are aware. They are ready to quote an ayah of the Quran on instagram/twitter any time of the day to make their actions justified. Things have changed rapidly in the last decade or so.

    How can people that are ready to refute you about their version of hijab not know about what Islam is really asking them to do? They know about modesty, they know about the gaze, they know about 'halal' relationships.

    I used to think it is all to do with ignorance but this reason is fading away very slowly when you look at the overall picture. Of course there are some that don't know because they don't have that help available. They simply don't know and that's not their fault as long as they are trying for their own akhiraah.

    There are many muslim communities everywhere not just here in the UK. Most muslims have access to everything. They are not restricted as such.

    In some parts of the UK there will be some people that show hostility but that happens everywhere.

    When you wear the hijab there is that natural inclination of wanting to know more and if you are doing it right or not. Especially in this day and age when everyone (including non muslims) know about this 'strange' religion Islam, it's everywhere and this already puts you in a position to question yourself and your identity.

    Hijab is simply wearing loose clothing and covering your hair. It's not asking you to look beautiful which requires more effort. Get what I mean? Society is there to dictate to you how to look but are you going to become a slave to society and always be miserable or are you going to be free and rely on your religion to remove this burden from you?

    The subjugation of women has always been there. This is nothing new. It will always be there when it comes to marriage, make up, education, family, and everything really. That pressure is there but it doesn't mean you let that kind of a system control you unless you really want to fit in with the wrong crowd.

    What's new is how much progression and development has taken place, so the question is what's the intention?

    That is for us to never know and to never find out but only for the individuals concerned to know and be aware of. It's all very well to make up on, wear skinny tights and then wrap up with a scarf. Might as well take the scarf off altogether because it is 'tough' out there, it's just disrespectful to the religion and confusing for new comers to the religion.

    No one is perfect, we all learn at different times.

    May Allah guide us all and make us better muslims with the correct intentions- Ameen

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  • Stoic Believer
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    :wswrwb:

    Yes, it really is a sad state of affairs.

    First and foremost, brothers need to understand how much of a fitnah this is for our sisters. Similar to how brothers have a hard time lowering their gaze, sisters too have a hard time covering fully. They suffer through immense pressure to look their best, to not look or feel ugly lest they suffer cripplingly low self esteem. Not to mention how they are constantly surrounded by kafir women who are always dressed to impress. The environment can be extremely demoralizing.

    So while yes, what these sisters are doing is very wrong, often times it is not always out of malice toward Islamic rulings. Many times sisters just don't have the confidence or the strength of imaan to cover fully. There are insecurities and fears to deal with as well; some think they will have a hard time getting married if they don't wear makeup or dress a certain way. Other times it's just ignorance of course. And yes there are also some who are liberal and/or modernist in their views toward hijab and have contempt toward what Islam really teaches about this.

    But the point is, it's not as simple as brothers tend to see it. I am by no means condoning or justifying what these sisters are wearing--in fact I hate the way some of these sisters dress--but we should be a little more understanding of the roots of the problem rather than assuming they're all doing it as a mockery of the deen.

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  • arif123f
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    :wswrwb:

    Hijab is seen as a fashion component by both male and female perspective. Wearing correct hijab isn't so hard, but it needs determination and patience. Sadly, in these times we are noticing a new fitnah is popping up to hide the main objective of hijab and to suit it with western values.

    May Allah guide those people and give them the correct understanding. Ameen.

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  • Medic
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    Re: I hate this trend in Hijabis in the west

    Originally posted by Faith reloaded View Post
    To an extent

    But sometimes you have to take part of the blame as well

    Theres a reason why knowledge is a must for all muslims, and there's also a reason why one's path to jannah is made easy if he seeks knowledge
    Fairs.

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  • Faith reloaded
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    Originally posted by Muslim First View Post
    :wswrwb:

    May Allah guide them to the straight path. Ameen. They have their own fitnah that they have to go through, we live in a society where wearing barely any clothes is promoted. Now imagine being a Woman who has been obligated (Men as well) to hide their awrah? very tough thing to do especially in today's time. At least they're making an effort in wearing the headscarf, and maybe they'll start wearing modest clothing in the future. Women are facing a lot of pressure to look, and act a certain way. As Men we think it's easy to wear proper Hijab or Niqab and always criticize but never look at it from the Women's perspective.
    Yes, but tomorrow is never guaranteed

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