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    Does anyone still do proper pardah in nowadays society or has the Ummah become too Westernised?

  • #2
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    Yes, a lot of sisters still do.
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    • #3
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      Wa Alaykumussalam
      Yeah of course lots of us females do.
      For clarification purposes, what do you define as proper purdah?

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by .mirror. View Post
        Yes, a lot of sisters still do.
        Yeah some practicing sisters would do but I meant as in where the whole family practices it and also not necessarily practicing because before everyone used to pardah whether they were religious or not.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Creamcake View Post
          Wa Alaykumussalam
          Yeah of course lots of us females do.
          For clarification purposes, what do you define as proper purdah?
          Well proper pardah would be:

          -Wearing niqab/burqa when going out and covering face in front of ghayr mard.

          -Men and women being segregated, including the house when visitors are over, like there is a mardana and zenana in the house

          If anyone has seen the movie Chaudhvin Ka Chand, then it would be like that.

          Also see what I wrote in post 4.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
            Well proper pardah would be:

            -Wearing niqab/burqa when going out and covering face in front of ghayr mard.

            -Men and women being segregated, including the house when visitors are over, like there is a mardana and zenana in the house

            If anyone has seen the movie Chaudhvin Ka Chand, then it would be like that.

            Also see what I wrote in post 4.
            Although it's a culture that seems specific to Southeast Asia, it sounds like something that was very common among the Muslim women in the Ummah during the time of the khilafah.

            What's a mardana and zenana?

            Also is the pardah something mostly amongst Pashtun people in Pakistan or do other groups practice it too, Punjabi, etc.?
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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
              Well proper pardah would be:

              -Wearing niqab/burqa when going out and covering face in front of ghayr mard.

              -Men and women being segregated, including the house when visitors are over, like there is a mardana and zenana in the house

              If anyone has seen the movie Chaudhvin Ka Chand, then it would be like that.

              Also see what I wrote in post 4.
              jazakhallahu khairan for clarifying, yeah that's proper purdah.
              Idk why it's so rare these days...
              insha ' allah we are the Ummah to implement the rules correctly.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Creamcake View Post
                jazakhallahu khairan for clarifying, yeah that's proper purdah.
                Idk why it's so rare these days...
                insha ' allah we are the Ummah to implement the rules correctly.
                Wa iyyaki sis.

                Yeah Im shocked to see how some men are these days, they don't mind their womenfolk wearing tight clothes and mixing with men and having boyfriends etc, and these people are Muslims!

                Idk what went wrong.

                InshaAllah, but the thing is that even if people weren't religious they still implemented pardah, pardah is not done just for religious purposes but for ones decency and self respect too.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Figs View Post
                  Although it's a culture that seems specific to Southeast Asia, it sounds like something that was very common among the Muslim women in the Ummah during the time of the khilafah.

                  What's a mardana and zenana?

                  Also is the pardah something mostly amongst Pashtun people in Pakistan or do other groups practice it too, Punjabi, etc.?
                  Pardah literally means a curtain or veil but it refers to the whole lifestyle of keeping women covered and segregated from men, its exactly like what the Sahaba RA did.

                  Mardana comes from the word man and refers to the part of the house where the male guests sit.

                  Zenana comes from the word zenani which means woman and refers to the inner parts of the house where the women of the house sit.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
                    Pardah literally means a curtain or veil but it refers to the whole lifestyle of keeping women covered and segregated from men, its exactly like what the Sahaba RA did.

                    Mardana comes from the word man and refers to the part of the house where the male guests sit.

                    Zenana comes from the word zenani which means woman and refers to the inner parts of the house where the women of the house sit.
                    So it's dominant among all groups in the subcontinent right?

                    Every culture should have this tbh, makes sense and goes with the deen. In my culture it's considered rude if you don't make salaam or speak to the guests regardless of gender.
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Figs View Post
                      Although it's a culture that seems specific to Southeast Asia, it sounds like something that was very common among the Muslim women in the Ummah during the time of the khilafah.

                      What's a mardana and zenana?

                      Also is the pardah something mostly amongst Pashtun people in Pakistan or do other groups practice it too, Punjabi, etc.?
                      Well its present in all Muslim countries or most of them anyways and yes Pardah is done by other than the pashtuns, for example the movie I referred to was set in a Muslim city of Lucknow in India, also it was/is practiced by upper class hindus who started copying the Muslims.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Figs View Post
                        So it's dominant among all groups in the subcontinent right?

                        Every culture should have this tbh, makes sense and goes with the deen. In my culture it's considered rude if you don't make salaam or speak to the guests regardless of gender.
                        Rarely anyone practices it these days, in this country anyways since they have become so modernised and westernised.

                        They do have it in every culture, like in Saudi there is strict pardah. It is in every culture its just the people have lost it over time, for example if you went back 100 year or more and then in any Muslim country you would see the women being separate from men etc.

                        Hmmm.... the male or female guests never talk to or sit with the female or male people of the house unless they are family.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
                          Wa iyyaki sis.

                          Yeah Im shocked to see how some men are these days, they don't mind their womenfolk wearing tight clothes and mixing with men and having boyfriends etc, and these people are Muslims!

                          Idk what went wrong.

                          InshaAllah, but the thing is that even if people weren't religious they still implemented pardah, pardah is not done just for religious purposes but for ones decency and self respect too.
                          Exactly... it's a real tragedy.

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                          • #14
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                            niqab and shoulder abayas is a must for me i am afraid and the person under it has to be great too :)
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                            • #15
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                              If it's done for cultural or random reasons, then it will die out as cultural norms change with time.

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