Jury Service

[Abdul--Malik]

Hi

I got a letter today telling me that I would have to attend for jury service which as far as I know is haram. I was wondering if anyone has been called before and if they will accept religious reasons as an excuse to not go.

Thanks.

[Abu Yusuff]

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jury service is not haram; it is from the maaliki madhab!; the brit stole it from the maaliki madhab!

Imaam Maalik said that if 12 [or a group of] laymen decide on a verdict then their is a synergy involved and they are unlikely to get it wrong:

This particular qaa'ida is one that you find only in the Maliki school. This interesting qaa'ida is "jama'til muslimeen taqumu maqaam al-qaadi: a group of Muslims can stand in lieu of a judge." That is, the group can actually take the place of a judge.

[I told the shaykh the other day that there is an American researcher who says that the twelve jury system that we have here in America is from the Maliki school. It was actually taken by western people from the Maliki school. The principle is that a jury of peers will judge you because in those days they did not have qaadis (judges).] The wisdom behind this principle that Imam Malik was indicating is that when people come together, there is a synergistic power of unity in which they will more likely be right in their judgments than wrong. So, if the group makes a judgment, this is why their judgment has the weight and authority, in the Maliki school, of a legal scholar making a judgment based on his knowledge of the sharia'.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/wor...ms-living.html

[Ranya]

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Go dressed in a thobe and turban. You will get to go home early.

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

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A brother on here successfully got out of jury service. I'll point him to this thread.

[Fragile]

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Go dressed in a thobe and turban. You will get to go home early.

Lool

[brightesthour]

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I got out of jury duty a couple years ago. Got a note from my doctor, lol. She excused me for a year. I'm really hoping I don't get called back anytime soon!

[Gingerbeardman]

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Hi

I got a letter today telling me that I would have to attend for jury service which as far as I know is haram. I was wondering if anyone has been called before and if they will accept religious reasons as an excuse to not go.

Thanks.

serves you right for registering to vote...

there was a case recently where the judge refuses to excuse someone from jury service as Muslim, they tend not to like that too much so guess you'll just have to turn up scruffy with not only odd socks, but odd shoes, roll your eyes a lot and randomly mumble 'bring back flogging and hanging, the frog prince told me so,' whenever the judge is nearby and get excused as crazy person.

will also get your name off the electoral roll as well I think! bonus.

[*Sweety*]

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I didn't realise that this could be haram, my brother did it

[.Singaporean]

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Just say u have ebola.....

[Gingerbeardman]

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Go dressed in a thobe and turban. You will get to go home early.

yes, that is even better than my odd shoes idea.

[surprised]

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Well, depending on which country you are in... i think it could perhaps be permissible.

For example, i was asked for jury duty and i did so... I heard the evidence and i would only go for guilty if there was pretty much 100% proof of something that couldn't be refuted. For example, a CCTV recording of someone taking something out of a shop, concealing it and in effect stealing it. My role would be to say "yeah... it's pretty obvious what happened there" - no guesses, ifs buts or maybes...

But what the "judge" decides in his little gown is completely up to him - i have no part in that.

[Gingerbeardman]

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Well, depending on which country you are in... i think it could perhaps be permissible.

For example, i was asked for jury duty and i did so... I heard the evidence and i would only go for guilty if there was pretty much 100% proof of something that couldn't be refuted. For example, a CCTV recording of someone taking something out of a shop, concealing it and in effect stealing it. My role would be to say "yeah... it's pretty obvious what happened there" - no guesses, ifs buts or maybes...

But what the "judge" decides in his little gown is completely up to him - i have no part in that.

and if you are asked to judge upon something according to the kuffar's definition of right and wrong?

would you just ignore the judges guidance and risk contempt of court to say 'not guilty' as this person may well be under the Shariah of Allaah or would you then rule by other than Allaah has revealed?

[Gingerbeardman]

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http://islamqa.info/en/125623

Ruling on jury duty in a non-Islamic court in a non-Muslim country

Question - Can a Muslim living in a non-Muslim country participate their court system by agreeing to the call of jury duty from the government? This jury duty involves in sitting inside the court and listening to the pro and con arguments of a case and deciding along with other 11 people whether a person is guilty or not.

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

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I find it ironic when the same crowd who go on about 'not judging people' go on to promote serving on juries and police forces - especially in non-Muslim states.

[Gingerbeardman]

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I find it ironic when the same crowd who go on about 'not judging people' go on to promote serving on juries and police forces - especially in non-Muslim states.

good point!

"only God can judge me!" said no scholar ever, these are actually the words of tupac.