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**Al-Nasser** · 10-08-04, 11:52 PM

Excellent article.

and for those who believe that we are a bit paranoid about Music i recommend you to read about a Musician named Zeryab and how he contributed to the downfall of the Islamic state in Andalusia.

**Shades** · 14-08-04, 04:15 AM

Zeryab and how he contributed to the downfall of the Islamic state in Andalusia.

I'll be glad if you can provide some more details on this event bro.

**Al-Nasser** · 14-08-04, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by Shades

I'll be glad if you can provide some more details on this event bro.

hmmm..are you an Arabic speaker?

**abdulhakeem** · 27-08-04, 09:15 PM

The Four Imams On Music
Dated: 04/07/2002

ON MUSIC
The Opinions Of The Great Imams

THE VIEW OF THE TABIEEN IMAMS AND SCHOLARS AFTER THEM

The view held by the companions was generally adhered to by the taabieen and their followers, the four imams and the great majority of dependable Islamic scholars up to the present time.From among the tabieen and their followers, there are such authorities as Mujaahid, Ikrimah, An-Nakhai and Al-Hassan Al-Basri.(107)

IMAM ABU HANEEFAH

Imam Abu Haneefah (108) has perhaps the harshest view of the four famous Imams of jurisprudence. His school of thought is the strictest, for he detested singing and considered it sinful. As for his disciples, they have explicitly confirmed the prohibition of listening to all musical amusements and pastimes, including wind instruments (mazaameer) (109) all types of tambourines, hand drums(dufoof) (110) and even the striking of sticks (al-qadeeb).They have asserted that such actions constitute disobedience to Allah and that the performer of such action is sinful, therefore necessitating rejection of his testimony (111). They have further stated that it is incumbent upon the Muslim to struggle to avoid listening to such things, even if he were passing by or stationed near them (without any wilful intention). Abu Haneefah's closest disciple, Abu Yoosuf, stated that if the sound of musical instruments (maazif) and amusements (malaahi) were heard coming from a house, the house could be entered without permission of its owners (112). The justification for this is that the command regarding the prohibition abominable things (munkaaraat) is mandatory, and cannot be established if such entering rests upon the permission of the residents of the premises.This is the madhhab (position) of the rest of the Kufic scholars as well, such as Ibraheem An-Nakhai, Ash-Shabi Hammad and Ath-Thowri. They do not differ on this issue. The same can be said of the general body of jurisprudents of Al-Basrah (114).

IMAAM MAALIK

It is related by Ibnul-Jowzi that Ishaaq bin Eesaa At-Tabaa asked Imaam Maalik bin Anas (115), the leading jurisprudent of Madeenah, about the view of the people of madeenah regarding singing (ghinaa).He replied, "In fact, that is done by the sinful ones." Abut-teeb At-Tabari said, "As for Maalik bin Anas, he truly did prohibit singing and listening to it." He further related that Maalik said, "If one purchased a slave-girl (116) and found her to be a professional singer, he could return her to the original owner for reimbursement on the claim of having found fault in the merchandise." (117) The ruling of prohibition (tahreem) is generally agreed upon by the scholars of Madeenah. The Maaliki jurisprudent and commentator, Al-Qurtubi, reports Ibn Khuwayz Mandaad as saying that Imam Maalik had learned singing and music as a small boy until his mother encouraged him to leave it for a study of the religous sciences. He did, and his view became that such things were prohibited.(118) Al-Qurtubi confirmed Maaliks view by saying that the only exception to this general ruling was the type of innocent songs such as those sung to placate the camels during travel, or during hard labour or boredom or during times of festivity and joy, such as the Eed days and weddings-the latter to the accompaniment of a simple daff (hand drum). Al-Qurtubi then said, "As for that which is done in our day, by way of the (blameworthy) innovations (bidah) of the Sufi mystics in their addition to hearing songs to the accompaniment of melodious instruments such as flutes, string instruments such as flutes, string instruments etc such is haraam (forbidden) (119).

IMAAM SHAFI'EE

In the book, Aadaabul Qadaa, As-Shafiee is reported as saying, "Verily, song is loathsome (makrooh); it resembles the false and vain thing (al-baatil). The one who partakes of it frequently is an incompetent fool whose testimony is to be rejected." (121) His closest and most knowledgeable disciples clearly stipulate that his position on this issue is that of prohibition (tahreem)and they rebuke those who attribute its legality to him (122). This is confirmed by the later Shafiite scholar, Ibn Hajar Al-Haythami. He related that one of the Ash-Shaafiites disciples, Al-Haarith Al-Muhaasibi (d.243 H) said, "Song is haraam, just as the carcass (maytah)." (123). Further more, the statement that singing is haraam is found in the treatise, Ash-Sharh Al-Kabeer, by the authoritative Shaffiite Scholar, Ar-Raafiee (d.623 H). This is further corroborated by the accomplished Shaaffi'ite jurisprudent, Imam An-Nawawi (d.676 H) in his Rowdah) (124). Such is the correct view of the dependable scholars of the Shaffi'ite madhab. However, due to limited knowledge and personal fancy and desire, a few of their later day scholars disagree with this view. (125)

IMAM AHMAD BIN HANBAL

Imaam Ahmads (126) position regarding this issue has been narrated in detail by the Hanbalite jurisprudent and Quranic commentator, Abul Faraj Ibnul-Jowzi (d.597H.) in his treatise, Tablees Iblees (Sataan's deception). He tells us that ghinaa during Ahmads era consisted primarily of a rhymed, rythmical chanting (inshaad)of poems (127) whose puropse was to lead people to a pious, abstentious way of life. However, when such chanters began to vary their simple style to one of a throbbing, affected melody, the narrations regarding Ahmad began to differ.His own son and student, Abdullah, relates that his father said, "Singing (128) sprouts hypocricy in the heart;it doesnt please me." The scholar, Ismaeel bin Ishaaq ath Thaqafi, reports that Ahmad was questioned regarding ones listening to those poems (qasaaid) to which he replied, "I despise it, for it is a bidaah(innovation). Don't sit down to listen to its reciters.'Abul-Haarith relates that Ahmad said, "At-Taghyeer (129) is an innovation" whereupon it was said, "But it sensitizes and softens the heart". Ahmad rejoined, "It is a bid'ah (blameworthy innovation)."

Yaqoob Al-Haashimi narrates that Ahmad said, "At-taghyeer is a recent innovation" and Yaqoob bin Gayyath reports him a s saying that he despised at-taghyeer and prohibited ones listening to it.(130) Ibnul-Jowzi then mentioned some narrations related by Abu Bakr Al-Khallaal and Ahmads son Saalih, which indicate Ahmads not being averse to poetry sessions. It is related that Ahmad heard a singer (qawwal) and didn't reproach him, whereupon Saalih said to him, "Oh father, didn't you used to criticise and censure such a thing?" Ahmad replied, "That was because I was told that they were doing reproachable things, so I despised it; as for this, I do not dislike it" Ibnul-Jowzi commented at this point, "Some of the scholars of our (Hanbalite) school mention that Abu Bakr Al-Khallaal (d.311 H) and his disciple, Abdul-Azeez, permitted singing (ghinaa).Such a statement refers to the spiritual poems (qasaaid zuhduyyaat) which were prevalent during their time. This is precisely the type of singing which was not disliked by Ahmad (as previously mentioned)" (131).

Ahmad bin Hanbal attests to this in the instance where he was asked regarding a deceased person who left behind him a son and a professional singing) slave-girl (132). The son then needed to sell her. Ahmad said that she was not to be sold on the basis of her being a singer. Upon this it was said to him that, (as a singer), she was worth 30000 dirhams, whereas if she were sold only on the basis of her being simply a slave-girl" Ibnul Jowzi explained, "The reason Ahmad said this is because the singing slave-girl doesn't sing spiritual poems (qasaaid zuhdiyaat); rather she sings throbbing lyrics which incite passion in ones being.This is proof that such singing is haraam, for if it were not so, the incurred loss of the orphans sons wealth would not be permissible (133). Furthermore, it is reported by the jurisprudent Al-Marwazi that Ahmad bin Hanbal said, "The earnings of the effeminate (mukhannath) singer are foul (khabeeth) because he doesn't sing spiritual poems, but rather, he sings erotic poetry (al-ghazal) in a licentious, cooing manner." Ibnul-Jowzi concluded that it is obvious from what has preceded that the variant narrations relating to Ahmad's dislike of (karaahah) or permission for singing depended upon the type of singing that was meant. As for the type of singing which is popular today, (134) it would be forbidden according to Ahmad's view. If only he could see what the people have added to it by way of innovation.(135)

In conclusion, the general consensus of the companions, Taabieen and the following generations of Islamic scholars up to the present day, including the four Imams, points to the ruling of prohibition of music and song (other than the exceptions to be mentioned later).

From Abu Bilaal Mustafa al-Kanadi's (rahimahullah) book on Music and Singing

NOTES

(107) See pp.67-68 of Kaffur Raa; Al-Qurtubis tafseer, vol.19, p.51 and Shaykh Saalih Fowzaan's Al-Ilaam bi Naqdi Kitaabil Hallaali wal Haraam, pp.72-74.

(108) The first of the four famous imaams.He was born in Koofa, Iraq in the 80th year of the Hijrah. He died in Baghdad in the year 150H see Adh-Dhahabis Seeyar Alaamin Nubalaa, vol.6, pp.390-403.

(109) Such as flutes, pipes, horns and related wind instruments.

(110) Small hand drums without steel jangles.This permitted type is to be used on certain restricted occassions as designated by the sunnah, the details of which will follow.

(111) Testimony given by witnesses concerning matters or crimes involving punishments is only accepted from trustworthy, obedient Muslims.

(112) In shariah, the mere suspicion of vice is not sufficient to warranat invasion of privacy by the authorities.Here, however, the violation is not confined to the privacy of the home and should be prevented, even forcibly, to avoid corruption of society.

(113) Quoted from "Ownul Mabood Sharhu Sunan Abi Dawood", vol.13, pp.273-274.

(114) Stated by Abut Teeb Taahir At-Tabari and quoted in Al-Qurtubis Al-Jaamili Ahkaamil Quraan, vol.14, p.55.

(115) He was born at Madeenah in the year 93 of the Hijrah and died there in 179H. For details of his life and times, see Qaadi Ayyads Tarteebul Madaarik, vol.1, pp.107-147.

(116) In the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw), the world economy was almost completely based upon the institution of slavery. Wisdom and foresight demanded a gradual elimination of this deeply rooted social system. The Islamic method was to limit the ways in which slaves could be taken to only one-jihaad (lawful warfare), while at the same time imposing conditions under which a slave must be freed and encouraging the freeing of believing slaves as an act of worship which brings one closer to Allah. Mistreatment of slaves was strictly prohibited and they were always entitled to respect as human beings. These guidelines protecting slaves are still applicable today.

(117) The previous sayings related to Maalik were quoted from Ibnul-Jowzis Talbees, p.29.

(118) Al-Jaamili Ahkaamil Quraan, vol.14, p.55

(119) Ibid, vol.14, p.54.

(120) He was born 150 H In Gazzah in Palestine. He died and was buried in Cairo, 204 H. Details of his life and works are chronicled in Al-Bayhaqis Manaaqibush Shaafiee.

(121) See Al-Qurtubis tafseer, vol.14, p.55 and Ibnul-Jowzis Talbees Iblees, p.231.Also refer to footnote no.111.

(122) See Ownul Mabood, vol.13, p.274.

(123) Designates the carcass of the animal which has not been slaughetered in a manner acceptable to the shariah, but has died in a manner rendering it unlawful for food, such as dying from a disease, accident, naturally or by being hit by a blow, etc. However, the skin of such an animal may be used after proper curing.

(124) Kaffur Raaa.p.61.

(125) Talbees iblees, pp.230-231.A sample of such scholars along with a refutation of their position will follow in the next section of this work.

(126) He was born in Baghdad, 164 H and died there in 241 H.See the excellent biography of his life

(127) In Arabic these are called qasaaiduz zuhd.

(128) "Singing" here means without musical accompaniment.

(129) Indicates a change in the state of mind or disposition of a person who appears "overcome" by the mention (dhikr) of God in supplication (duaa) performed in a humble, humiliating stance. Those who partake in this experience of being "overcome" are moved to extreme delight or grief by the manner in which such poetry is delivered.It is usually delivered in an affected, throbbing style which moves them to dance and gyrate to the beat and melody of such rythmic poems. Because of this "change' (taghyeer) which overcomes them, they were called al-mughayyarah. Refer to Talbees Iblees, p.330.

(130) Talbees Iblees, p.228.

(131) All of these scholars, including Ahmad, didn't not mind a certain type of chanting, singing and recitation of poetry or stories, etc without musical accompaniment or other prohibited aspects.

(132) Refer to footnote no.116.

(133) The loss incurred by selling the slave girl not as singer but as an ordinary worker.

(134) This statement was made during the 6th century of the Islamic era. Therefore, what could be said of what we hear and see of music and singing today!

(135) Talbees Iblees, pp.228-229.

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**yorkshireman** · 27-08-04, 10:06 PM

I like music. You can happy music, sad music, angry music, chilling music, love music...all sorts of music. Music has been used to praise God for thousands of years. Music has been part of human culture for thousands of years.

I don't believe God hates music.

**AbuMubarak** · 27-08-04, 10:53 PM

you just proved the point york

music controls your emotions

**yorkshireman** · 27-08-04, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by AbuMubarak

you just proved the point york

music controls your emotions

My emotions control my choice of music.

I'll bet good money that your emotions control your choice of surah to read at times.

**Mary Carol** · 28-08-04, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by yorkshireman

My emotions control my choice of music.

I'll bet good money that your emotions control your choice of surah to read at times.

I know Ad-Dhuha makes me cry:

AD-DHUHA (THE MORNING HOURS, MORNING BRIGHT)

In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

093.001
By the Glorious Morning Light,

093.002
And by the Night when it is still,-

093.003
Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.

093.004
And verily the Hereafter will be better for thee than the present.

093.005
And soon will thy Guardian-Lord give thee (that wherewith) thou shalt be well-pleased.

093.006
Did He not find thee an orphan and give thee shelter (and care)?

093.007
And He found thee wandering, and He gave thee guidance.

093.008
And He found thee in need, and made thee independent.

093.009
Therefore, treat not the orphan with harshness,

093.010
Nor repulse the petitioner (unheard);

093.011
But the bounty of the Lord - rehearse and proclaim!

**Al-Nasser** · 28-08-04, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by mariam

I know Ad-Dhuha makes me cry:

AD-DHUHA (THE MORNING HOURS, MORNING BRIGHT)

In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

093.001
By the Glorious Morning Light,

093.002
And by the Night when it is still,-

093.003
Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.

093.004
And verily the Hereafter will be better for thee than the present.

093.005
And soon will thy Guardian-Lord give thee (that wherewith) thou shalt be well-pleased.

093.006
Did He not find thee an orphan and give thee shelter (and care)?

093.007
And He found thee wandering, and He gave thee guidance.

093.008
And He found thee in need, and made thee independent.

093.009
Therefore, treat not the orphan with harshness,

093.010
Nor repulse the petitioner (unheard);

093.011
But the bounty of the Lord - rehearse and proclaim!

simply....two thumbs up sister :up: :up:

try reading this chapter in the early morning (after fajr prayer) as you are smelling morning fresh air....i did.....never had such spiritual boost before!

EDIT : in the balacony.

**Ahlam** · 31-08-04, 06:52 PM

The story was sad but beautifully!!

**Friend** · 02-09-04, 06:18 PM

They have found that music stimulates every part of the brain so it actually is very good for a person. If you know right from wrong...

Peace to all

**Al-Nasser** · 02-09-04, 06:41 PM

and which part exactly is stimulated by Madonna's "bedtime stories" or 99% of nowdays rap Music?

**Friend** · 02-09-04, 08:50 PM

Like I said, "you have to know what is right and what is wrong." I can't stand Madona and don't listen to her at all...

Many people with developmental disabilities benefit from music. It helps them learn and physically develop basic motor skills a person need to have to preform everday tasks like walking, bending, etc. It also people with memory problems.

Peace to all

**abdulhakeem** · 08-09-04, 12:21 AM

MUSIC IN ISLAM

Introduction
In recent years, certain developments have taken place which has brought the subject of music as an extremely significant issue. Music has spread to such an extent that it is afflicting every muslim in this modern era. Today, individuals are being confronted by a situation where one is forced to listen to music whether by choice or without.

Music is played in nearly all department stores and super markets. Even whilst walking in the streets, we find cars blaring with music. No matter which direction we go, we are blasted with music. The increasing popularity of music, which is prevalent in our society poses a tremendous danger for muslims.

Music is Haraam
References within the context of the Holy Qur`aan along with the Hadith of the Prophet confirm that music is haraam.

Interpreters of the Qur`aan have defined the term `lahwal hadith` which is mentioned in the Qur`aan as:

1) Singing and listening to songs.
2) Purchasing of male and female singers.
3) Purchase of instruments of fun and amusement.

When Sayyidana Abdullah Ibne Mas`ood, a very close companion of our Prophet was asked about the meaning of the term `lahwal hadith`, he replied

This statement, he repeated three times. This view is unanimously supported by the four Khalifas, the eminent Sahabaah, Tabi`een, the four Imaams and other reliable Islaamic scholars and authorities.

One hadith from the Bukhari Shareef, the most authentic Book of Hadith, further confirms unlawfulness of music and singing :

`There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of ma`aazif ( musical instruments ).`

Detailed analysis of the arabic word `ma`aazif ` shows that it refers to musical instruments, the sounds of those musical instruments and singing with the accompaniment of instruments.

Closer analysis of the wordings of the Hadith establishes the prohibition of music. Firstly, the words `seek to make lawful ` shows that music is not permissible, as logically one can only seek to make lawful that which is not allowed. Secondly, if music was not prohibited, then it would not have been brought within the same context as fornication and wine-drinking.

Music - it's Effects

MAY ALMIGHTY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL TO THE STRAIGHT PATH-

AMEEN.

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