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  • #16
    Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

    I'm going to be really annoying but it's a question that's been bugging me for a while.
    If a lady is on her menses, and outside of her menses, she recites Surah Falaq and Nas before sleeping, is it permissable to recite them in her menses?
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    • #17
      Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

      Originally posted by Meriadoc View Post
      I'm going to be really annoying but it's a question that's been bugging me for a while.
      If a lady is on her menses, and outside of her menses, she recites Surah Falaq and Nas before sleeping, is it permissable to recite them in her menses?
      Is it permissible to read Quran while a women is having mensus (periods)?


      Praise be to Allaah.

      This is one of the issues on which the scholars, may Allaah have mercy on them, differed.

      The majority of fuqahaa’ say that it is haraam for a woman to recite Qur’aan during her period, until she is taahir (pure) again. The only exceptions they make is in the case of dhikr (remembrance of Allaah) and phrases that are not intended as tilaawah (recitation), such as saying “Bismillaahi’r-Rahmaani’r-Raheem” or “Innaa Lillaahi wa innaa ilayhi raaji’oon”, or other phrases from the Qur’aan which are repeated as general du’aa’s.

      They base their evidence for forbidding menstruating women to recite Qur’aan on several things, including the following:

      Menstruation is seen as coming under the rulings that apply to one who is junub (in a state of impurity following sexual intercourse), because both states require ghusl. This is based on the hadeeth narrated by ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him), according to which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to teach the Qur’aan and he never prevented anyone from learning it except those who were in a state of janaabah (impurity).” (Reported by Abu Dawood, 1/281; al-Tirmidhi, 146; al-Nisaa’i, 1/144; Ibn Maajah, 1/207; Ahmad, 1/84; Ibn Khuzaymah [??], 1/104. Al-Tirmidhi said: a saheeh hasan hadeeth. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: the truth is that it is the type of hasan hadeeth that could be used as evidence).

      The hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both), according to which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The menstruating woman and the one who is in a state of impurity (janaabah) should not recite anything of the Qur’aan.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 131; Ibn Maajah, 595; al-Daaraqutni (1/117); al-Bayhaqi, 1/89. This is a da’eef hadeeth, because it was reported by Ismaa’eel ibn ‘Ayyaash from the Hijaazis, and his reports from them are da’eef as is well known to those who are conversant with the study of hadeeth. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said (21/460): it is a da’eef hadeeth by the unanimous agreement of the scholars of hadeeth. See Nasb al-Raayah, 1/195; al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 1/183).

      Some scholars say that it is permitted for a menstruating woman to recite Qur’aan. This is the opinion of Maalik, and one opinion narrated from Ahmad, which Ibn Taymiyah preferred and which al-Shawkaani believed to be correct. The scholars based the following points on this opinion:

      The principle is that things are allowed and permitted unless there is evidence to the contrary. There is no such evidence to say that a menstruating woman is not allowed to recite Qur’aan. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: “There is no clear, saheeh text to indicate that a menstruating woman is forbidden to recite Qur’aan… It is known that women used to menstruate at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he did not forbid them to recite Qur’aan, or to remember Allaah (dhikr) and offer du’aa’.”

      Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, commands (Muslims) to recite Qur’aan. He praises the one who does so, and promises him (or her) a great reward. No one is excluded from this except the one concerning whom there is solid evidence (daleel), and there is no such evidence in the case of menstruating women, as stated above.

      The analogy between the menstruating woman and the one who is in a state of janaabah is made despite the fact that there are differences between them. The one who is in a state of janaabah has the option of removing the “barrier” by making ghusl, unlike the menstruating woman. A woman’s period usually lasts for some length of time, whereas the person who is in a state of janaabah is required to do ghusl when the time for prayer comes.

      Preventing a menstruating woman from reciting Qur’aan deprives her of the chance to earn reward, and it may make her forget something of the Qur’aan, or she may need to recite it for the purposes of teaching or learning.

      From the above, it is clear that the evidence of those who allow a menstruating woman to recite Qur’aan is stronger. If a woman wants to err on the side of caution, she can limit her recitation to the passages which she is afraid of forgetting.

      It is very important to note that what we have been discussing here is restricted to what a menstruating woman recites from memory. When it comes to reading from the Mus-haf (the Arabic text itself), a different rule applies. The correct view of the scholars is that it is forbidden to touch the mus-haf when one is in any kind of state of impurity, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… which none can touch except the purified.” [al-Waaqi’ah 56:79]. In a letter to ‘Amr ibn Hazm, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).” (Reported by Maalik, 1/199; al-Nisaa’i, 8/57; Ibn Hibbaan, 793; al-Bayhaqi, 1/87. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: A group of scholars classed this hadeeth as saheeh because it is so well known. Al-Shaafi’i said: It is proven by them that it was a letter sent by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: “This letter is famous among the scholars of seerah, and is so well known among the scholars that it does not need an isnaad. It is like tawaatur because the people accepted and recognized it. Shaykh al-Albani said that its is saheeh. Al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 4/17. See also: Nasb al-Raayah, 1/196; Irwaa’ al-Ghaleel, 1/158).


      (Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 1/159; al-Majmoo’, 1/356; Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’, 1/147; al-Mughni, 3/461; Nayl al-Awtaar, 1/226; Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa, 21/460; al-Sharh al-Mumti’ li’l-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 1/291)

      And Allaah knows best.


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      • #18
        Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

        Originally posted by مسلمة View Post
        ^That's hanafi madhab yes. Not everyone follows the hanafi madhab. No need to patronise someone for asking a valid question.
        The Hanafi madhab is followed more than any other madhab
        How dare they challenge me with their primitive skills? They're just as good as dead

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        • #19
          Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

          Originally posted by Talwaar View Post
          The Hanafi madhab is followed more than any other madhab
          In the duniya more people don't follow Muhammad saw than do

          don't get this??

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          • #20
            Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

            Originally posted by Talwaar View Post
            The Hanafi madhab is followed more than any other madhab
            How does that have any impact on what I said?

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            • #21
              Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

              Im just confused now.
              Im hanafi and I recite Surah Mulk from memory before sleep. So can I still continue reciting it while on my period? Not touching the Quran but from memory?
              Alhumdulillah

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              • #22
                Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

                Originally posted by islam lover View Post
                Im just confused now.
                Im hanafi and I recite Surah Mulk from memory before sleep. So can I still continue reciting it while on my period? Not touching the Quran but from memory?
                No sister you cant.
                وَالْعَصْرِ

                إِنَّ الْإِنسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ

                إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ

                "If Allah (swt) only sent this Surah to us, for the guidance of Mankind, this will be enough for us” - Imam Shaafi'ee r.a.

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                • #23
                  Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

                  Originally posted by islam lover View Post
                  Im just confused now.
                  Im hanafi and I recite Surah Mulk from memory before sleep. So can I still continue reciting it while on my period? Not touching the Quran but from memory?
                  I guess it depends on how much of a hanafi you are, but the hanafi position is what sister Jenicca said.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

                    Originally posted by مسلمة View Post
                    I guess it depends on how much of a hanafi you are, but the hanafi position is what sister Jenicca said.
                    Do you know of any hadiths on this matter sis?
                    :sub: wabihamdihi:sub:hiladheem

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                    • #25
                      Re: Reciting Quran without Touching During Menstruation.

                      Originally posted by islam lover View Post
                      Im just confused now.
                      Im hanafi and I recite Surah Mulk from memory before sleep. So can I still continue reciting it while on my period? Not touching the Quran but from memory?
                      The following is from Sheikh Ahmad Jibril's Gems of Ramadan #5

                      What can a woman do in these days?

                      Everything except fast, make Salah and Tawaaf. Makes up fasts but not Salah.
                      Some sisters think it is that time of month and they are not fasting so Ramadhaan is on pause and they go sit in front of the TV and neglect these blessed days. Plenty of other Ibaadah to do – Thikr, Du’aa, recite the Qur’an.

                      Can a woman recite Qur’an and can she touch the Qur’an?
                      A) Reciting from memory without touching: Dispute on that and correct opinion what Ibn Taymiyyah states in 21st volume of the Fataawa. Imaam Maalik, ash-Shawkaani and others adopted same opinion – permissible to read from memory or if she is not touching the Qur’an. Origin is that matters like this are Halaal unless there is a solid proof that they are Haraam.

                      There is no soild, authentic proof to indicate it is Haraam for a woman to recite the Qur’an. Imaam Maalik and Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Taymiyyah and ash-Shawkaani said a woman can read from memory because they are matters that cannot be prohibited except by a solid proof and there is no solid proof.

                      Saying attributed to Prophet sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam that a woman on her menstrual cycle cannot read Qur’an (in Ibn Maajah and Tirmidhi) but so weak it cannot even be attributed to the Prophet sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam.

                      Qiyaas between one in Janaabah and a woman on her menstrual cycle
                      Authentic clear proof the Prophet sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam did not recite when in Janaabah. To compare the two it must be similar, for Qiyaas to take place.

                      A man is in Janaabah by choice not by force, he can go take a shower. A woman is not like that - she is forced to wait. There are differences that invalidate the use of Qiyaas.

                      A woman getting her monthly days is a matter that happens to all women since the time of the Prophet sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam and before that. There was many Muslim women then and the Prophet sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam had many wives who taught us the most deep details of his and their lives – do you think we would not have had at least one solid authentic Hadith that it was Haraam if it was really Haraam?

                      Here is the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueelw...Yii141a7SSoUt_
                      Last edited by Musaaafir; 20-09-13, 05:44 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Question regarding Salah and Menstruation.

                        Originally posted by islam lover View Post
                        Im just confused now.
                        Im hanafi and I recite Surah Mulk from memory before sleep. So can I still continue reciting it while on my period? Not touching the Quran but from memory?
                        Originally posted by Jenicca View Post
                        No sister you cant.
                        Originally posted by مسلمة View Post
                        I guess it depends on how much of a hanafi you are, but the hanafi position is what sister Jenicca said.

                        If the phrase 'Bismillah Al-Rahmaan Al-Raheem' is oft repeated in the Qura'n, it is part of the Qur'an right ?


                        So if a menstruating woman can't recite Surah Mulk from Memory, is she allowed to say 'Bismillah Al-Rahmaan Al-Raheem' which is also part of Qur'an ?

                        "The official position of the Hanafi school is that the basmala at the beginning of suras is a verse of the Quran" http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...=20466&CATE=24


                        :scratch:

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