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  • F_R
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by Rainyday View Post
    I wish I could do things lol. But I don't really know how
    Depends on what your heart lies with and what's needed in your area etc.

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  • -Tawheed-
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by rainbow*~ View Post
    you need to get a new hobby kiddo, anti-feminism brigade left long ago.
    oh no.

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  • rainbow*~
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by -Tawheed- View Post
    felt like it
    you need to get a new hobby kiddo, anti-feminism brigade left long ago.

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  • -Tawheed-
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by samin62 View Post
    why did you bump this fitnah thread?
    felt like it

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  • Musicisme656
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by FutureImam View Post
    Thanks for the video, it was really funny.

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  • samin62
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by -Tawheed- View Post
    Down with feminism, leave no survivors.
    why did you bump this fitnah thread?

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  • -Tawheed-
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Down with feminism, leave no survivors.

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  • Rainyday
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by F_R View Post
    Another thing, why don't we do something instead of moaning about it? Sisters need to do things. Those who say there's not enough for women need to :insha: do things. This is why I love our sister Naila, may Allah put khair and barakah in her work ameen, she's a beautiful example of a Muslimah who gets up and does things.
    I wish I could do things lol. But I don't really know how

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  • .mirror.
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    :salams

    A lot of you have too much free time during Ramadan...=/

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  • F_R
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by 2nd Reflection View Post
    Well there is a requirement for feminism in the sense there is a need for more women scholars of Islam - so that the rights of women can be advocated in Islamic scholarship.
    We don't need feminism. We have islam. An it's not just women's right, it's men's rights, the rights of the kuffaar, prisoners, animals, plants etc. Not just women.

    Another thing, why don't we do something instead of moaning about it? Sisters need to do things. Those who say there's not enough for women need to :insha: do things. This is why I love our sister Naila, may Allah put khair and barakah in her work ameen, she's a beautiful example of a Muslimah who gets up and does things.

    We need to take initiative. No joke. I've seen some things but I won't generalise. Point is, we have to make the right intention and go seek things to make a difference. We can talk and moan all day everyday about what we don't have, about our rights and wotsits not being given to us but if we don't knuckle down then aint no change gonna happen. An it only happens with the help of Allah and us doing our bit as much as we can.

    Don't pull out the culture or oppression card either. Especially for those of us sitting in western countries or countries that are safe. We can make a difference to our community :insha:

    Sick of hearing this nonsense.

    Prophet Ibrahim alayhis'salam was considered an entire ummah alone. So don't no one say that one person can't make a difference coz we can bi'ithnillah.

    Edit- if any sister is looking for classes online (because you can't find anything in person or at your masjid) then I can send you details just ask for it. If you've got facilities and access to classes in person then go to them.
    Last edited by F_R; 22-07-13, 07:29 PM.

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  • starlight89
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    We don't need any feminism women just need to be strong and stand up for the rights that Islam has given them it is women in many cases who sell themselves short and put up with lot of nonsense

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by 2nd Reflection View Post
    ...Feminism is a wide label - it is applied to a series of movements which sometimes are in complete contradiction to each other.

    The task is to simply sift through the different feminist movements, and more importantly listen to Muslims who advocate a feminist ethic to see if what they say makes sense instead of being prejudiced and shouting at them just because they mentioned the word ''feminist''...
    This is exactly what we have been trying to do in this thread.

    Those in 'favour of feminism' have not really gone into detail about which aspects of feminism they wish to promote. Unless I missed those particular posts of course. Some seem to believe that any 'womens' issue' is synonymous with feminism.

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  • علي
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by Kya View Post
    If it is popular name & makes communication easy, use it
    Only it's not popular, it has negative connotations among kuffar and Muslims alike, and who's preaching its use? Those who were brought up around that as an ideal, even with all the messes and embarrassments that come with it. Only reason anyone ever sought for a term or concept outside of what is originally in Islam is because of a complex they've developed living in their society, not striving for honor through Islam alone.

    Islam is independent of feminism or any other idealogy, it's its own entity. If others have something here or there that conforms with it, that does not give or take from the matter a single thing and nor does it mean the dignified Muslim needs now incline towards what is otherwise a complete mess.

    Actually in the Muslim world this issue of "oh noes, where's the female scholars?" is not even relevant, it doesn't even address huge problems we have, it just distracts from bigger issues, like the aforementioned masses who never listened to scholars in the first place, or more obvious matters like the clear wars being waged upon this religion both physically and in speech. Actually all this talk we are having right now is part of that latter war, complexes developed because the enemy is telling us "you Muslims really messed up with women", and it's their biggest tool against all those fighting abroad. Why else do we hear about it so much on the news...? Because the US, who kills more women and children than anyone else, cares about our women and feminism? They just want to break the homes of Muslims, that we may be busied with these trifling matters. And western du`aat eat this wholesale "guys, what happened to women scholarzzzZ???" as they go red in the face and jerkier in speech (seen that before). That's a guy struggling with a complex, he's not actually addressing anything. Irony is, these same guys are the ones who tell all who disagree with them "tomorrow you'll cease to be relevant!". Be that true or false, at least we can say, once upon a time there was relevance had, unlike in this line of discussion.

    Long story short, only reason there's even discussion of feminism is because people are inclining, out of desperation, to anything they can match with what is in their surrounding society or what media is pushing today. Islam on the other hand has been completed and gave the woman all she needed long ago, it's just getting people to adhere to the religion, and feminism the term or pieces of its ideology need not even put a single tippy toe into the picture. It shouldn't even be recognized.

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  • abc123d
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    Muslim men and women don't have a conflict, they both generally agree and understand their roles under Islam. Western men and women, specially feminists, are constantly in a conflict with each other, trying to argue about what a woman can or can't do. So if anything it's them who need to solve their problems, and they are the ones who need to learn from muslims who how to live happily, and stop trying to stick their ignorant selves in our bussiness and inserting false accusations such as 'muslim women are brainwashed' just because the women have learned to find peace in their lives, unlike them.

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  • |Sister|
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    Re: Why is feminism seen as a 'fitna' or with negativity on the ummah forum?

    Originally posted by Kya View Post
    What difference does it make what you call the effort/movement/involvment?
    What difference does it make to march under the banner of Islaam instead of a kufr movement? :scratch:

    Good question.

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