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  • Radec
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by Muslima London View Post
    speak for yourself but then as i stated above, not all muslim women are the same. Some really dont mind at all
    Umm, I'm pretty sure women are more comfortable doing these things infront of each other (provided they don't expose anything).

    I think it's really crass when people expose their breasts so openly. You don't want to know the things I've seen some people do on the trains.

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  • ceeri_sista
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    It is a good thing you didn't talk to her about it. She might have went off even if a woman asked her to be a little more modest.

    She should have covered herself, feeding your child doesn't mean you should expose yourself to the world.

    And she is not Muslim so you can not really uphold her to the same standard of modesty. Without stating the obvious next time you are in a similar predicament you know what to do.

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  • Muslima London
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    Originally posted by Radec View Post
    What?

    I don't think women have a problem with doing it infront of female family members.
    speak for yourself but then as i stated above, not all muslim women are the same. Some really dont mind at all

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  • Radec
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by iwasjimmyjimmy View Post
    I think you might be right. I saw the issue more in terms of modesty in relation to not allowing men to have bad thoughts.

    What you are describing, is a more general body privacy issue.

    It leaves me wondering how you manage in hospitals. It's embarrassing enough for me to have a nurse put something where I would rather not have it.

    I can't imagine how that must be for someone how is unable to breast feed in front of her female family members.
    What?

    I don't think women have a problem with doing it infront of female family members.

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  • nousername
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    if you're going to talk about people, how about being direct? instead of "some people" etc.

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  • noobz
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    Originally posted by Radec View Post
    Breast feeding is indeed natural but exposing your breasts isn't.

    If you want to do it, do it in the vicinity of women only or do it in private.

    I think it's very inappropriate to start breast feeding your child in a social gathering.
    where did the first responders go who were going on about how the op should have ran off from that event or something or how it was his fault for looking

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  • Muslima London
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by iwasjimmyjimmy View Post
    I think you might be right. I saw the issue more in terms of modesty in relation to not allowing men to have bad thoughts.

    What you are describing, is a more general body privacy issue.

    It leaves me wondering how you manage in hospitals. It's embarrassing enough for me to have a nurse put something where I would rather not have it.

    I can't imagine how that must be for someone how is unable to breast feed in front of her female family members.
    most muslim women just drape a shawl over themselves.
    But not to say that all muslim women are shy around nudeness waist upwards. Women of my moms generation bizarrely enuf are quite comfortable with it

    like we went to a hammam the other day to ask about prices etc. The woman said we should get massages and when we askied questions about like how she massages, covering the awrah etc she laughed at me and my friend. (btw She was muslim as well) and said ' we are all women' and i'm like :embar: emmm no thanks lool

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  • iwasjimmyjimmy
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    Re: disgusting slob

    I think you might be right. I saw the issue more in terms of modesty in relation to not allowing men to have bad thoughts.

    What you are describing, is a more general body privacy issue.

    It leaves me wondering how you manage in hospitals. It's embarrassing enough for me to have a nurse put something where I would rather not have it.

    I can't imagine how that must be for someone how is unable to breast feed in front of her female family members.

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  • Muslima London
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    i dont think your really getting his point are you.

    Muslims are very particular aournd modesty. You must understand that by now, and having someones bare breasts on dispaly whether this is erotic or not, is qutie embarassing.
    Our children are brought up from a young age to mind their modesty so they see their mothers covering up, they dont see nudity like this in the home.

    I grew up with 4 sisters and i would never expose myself in front of them in such a manner.

    call us prudish but thats how it is.

    So, if a 5 yr old muslim boy saw this, it would be more embarassing then if a non-muslim boy saw it because the non- muslim boy might have experience of being on a beach where they go topless sunning or whatever. (or he might not have - trying not to generalise)

    So, at this point i'm not even saying - this is wrong/ this is right - i'm just talking about how we would perceive something (muslims)

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  • iwasjimmyjimmy
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    Originally posted by Muslima London View Post
    She is a non Muslim I think
    What I was trying to say was some women are just used to letting it all out. That p3 girl attitude has pervaded our society

    You wouldn't believe how much cleavage I have to see at my workplace on a day to dSy basis, I'm a woman and I get embarassed so tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the brother was equally embarrassed by such a scene
    With respect, I'm sure you know this whole issue (page 3 and such) is an open discussion in society. It is a great mistake to think that all Kaffir's agree on this matter.

    It's just that nobody is ever going to change things by saying "cos god says it's bad".

    Practically speaking, you have to use reason, like the feminists who claim it's harmful to women.

    My view on "lowering your gaze" is that most men would have a second glance because it's a little unusual, not really for erotic reasons.

    You have to be a little strange to find breast feeding erotic. I can't speak for everyone man though.

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  • iwasjimmyjimmy
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    Originally posted by Aloo View Post
    I'm a busy male and have enough to worry about. Sometimes i can't go to the bathroom. Can I just go on the floor in public? It's perfectly natural and innocent.
    Bad analogy. Dropping your waste in public presents a practical hazard to others. Diseases can spread that way and it's messy. That's why a nice neat disposal system was invented.

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  • Radec
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    Breast feeding is indeed natural but exposing your breasts isn't.

    If you want to do it, do it in the vicinity of women only or do it in private.

    I think it's very inappropriate to start breast feeding your child in a social gathering.

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  • Aloo
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by iwasjimmyjimmy View Post

    Mother's have enough to worry about, without worrying themselves about being judged for doing something perfectly natural and innocent.
    I'm a busy male and have enough to worry about. Sometimes i can't go to the bathroom. Can I just go on the floor in public? It's perfectly natural and innocent.

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  • noobz
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by nonameakhi View Post
    The act of breastfeeding is indeed natural and it is the best form of nourishment for a child

    However the principles of hijab and awrah would apply in these circumstances and the whole page 3 thing is in no way even remotely relevant
    it seems women would defend anything nowadays just cause it involves their own gender ...

    shame that they are blaming the op for not 'lowering his gaze'...

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  • Rebel101
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    Re: disgusting slob

    Originally posted by iwasjimmyjimmy View Post
    I don't understand this particular aspect.

    Why would anyone be embarrassed about explaining what is happening, to a child?

    Surely, it would be the same as describing how we use our mouths for feeding, and the food goes through and comes out as waste. It's nothing to do with what adults sometimes think about certain parts of the body. It's perfectly innocent. It's how things are. It's no more disgusting that them knowing that "they came out of mummys tummy".

    Children who are brought up to understand this are less likely to opt for artificial feeds when they grow up.

    Mother's have enough to worry about, without worrying themselves about being judged for doing something perfectly natural and innocent.
    Wondering around while feeding infants is not healthy for their development and mother's should be informed and discouraged from doing so.

    Feeding should be done in a quiet, private and comfortable area, where mom can focus on the baby and his/her needs. This strengthens their bond.

    So leaving aside what other's think and their judgments, the kind of feeding described in OP is not healthy for the development of the baby.

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