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    salaam alaykum,

    so we supposed to separate kids when they 7, so they dont sleep in same bed?

    does this mean if oldest is 7 or youngest?

    I mean if I have a 14 year old daughter and a 3 year old son, surely they can sleep in same bed?

    what about a 7 year old daughter and a four year olds son?

    and does it literally mean beds, or does it mean bed rooms?

    Do I have to move house once my oldest is daughter is 7? ( I have a younger daughter and youngest son 2 bed house)

    She likes sleeping with her little bro, says she gets scared and lonely by her self in bed.

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    Is this an Islamic ruling or a housing benefit issue?

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    • #3
      Re: separate them in their beds?

      an islamic ruling, it is nothing to do with housing benefit :scratch:

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      • #4
        Re: separate them in their beds?

        "Order your children to pray when they are seven years old. And spank them [to exhort them] to do it by the age of ten
        and separate them in their bedding.

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        • #5
          Re: separate them in their beds?

          Originally posted by flashnazia View Post
          Is this an Islamic ruling or a housing benefit issue?
          The Rasul :saw: said: "When your children reach the age of 7 then separate their beds and when they reach 10 beat them if they do not pray their salah"

          [Narrated in Daarqutni and Al-Hakim]

          as for your question sister Naila-k, the answer is to give them seperate beds to sleep on.

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          • #6
            Re: separate them in their beds?

            is this a must?

            I dont get it, many older sisters look after their younger siblings so have them in same beds? so is it when the oldest is 7 or the youngest?
            Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
            The Rasul :saw: said: "When your children reach the age of 7 then separate their beds and when they reach 10 beat them if they do not pray their salah"

            [Narrated in Daarqutni and Al-Hakim]

            as for your question sister Naila-k, the answer is to give them seperate beds to sleep on.

            :jkk:

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            • #7
              Re: separate them in their beds?

              :wswrwb:

              Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
              The Rasul :saw: said: "When your children reach the age of 7 then separate their beds and when they reach 10 beat them if they do not pray their salah"

              [Narrated in Daarqutni and Al-Hakim]

              as for your question sister Naila-k, the answer is to give them seperate beds to sleep on.

              :jkk:
              :jkk: amin
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              The Prophet :saw: said:

              "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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              [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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              • #8
                Re: separate them in their beds?

                Originally posted by naila-k View Post
                is this a must?

                I dont get it, many older sisters look after their younger siblings so have them in same beds? so is it when the oldest is 7 or the youngest?
                Asalaamu Alaikum,

                I'll quote the key part;


                Based on that, the basic principle is that each girl should have her own bed, and not share with her teenage or little sister. But if that is not possible, and they need to sleep altogether in one bed, or two of them need to sleep in one bed, there is nothing wrong with that, so long as each one of them has her own cover or blanket.

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                • #9
                  Re: separate them in their beds?

                  I can GIVE them separate beds, but making them actually SLEEP in those beds is a different matter...
                  Originally posted by *asiya* View Post
                  :wswrwb:



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                  • #10
                    Re: separate them in their beds?

                    so you know those cases you get where the teenage sister cares for the younger sister and takes her to school, feeds her, puts her to bed and stays with her in the night, that is haram?
                    Originally posted by Perseveranze View Post
                    Asalaamu Alaikum,

                    I'll quote the key part;


                    Based on that, the basic principle is that each girl should have her own bed, and not share with her teenage or little sister. But if that is not possible, and they need to sleep altogether in one bed, or two of them need to sleep in one bed, there is nothing wrong with that, so long as each one of them has her own cover or blanket.

                    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/106242

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                    • #11
                      Re: separate them in their beds?

                      Originally posted by naila-k View Post
                      so you know those cases you get where the teenage sister cares for the younger sister and takes her to school, feeds her, puts her to bed and stays with her in the night, that is haram?
                      i dont know but its definately uncomfortable, and if theyre very young u might even get peed on once in a while lol you can make up a nice cosy bed for the little one on the floor with a couple of blankets :)
                      "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                      The Prophet :saw: said:

                      "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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                      Narrated 'Abdullah:

                      The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                      "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                      By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                      [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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                      • #12
                        Re: separate them in their beds?

                        That would work with those who can afford it. Because many houses have only one room to sleep, and boys and girls whatever the age are sleeping in it.

                        Anyway, children need to start sleeping alone at one moment. If it is just occasionally then it should be fine no? It may refer to a habit?
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                        • #13
                          Re: separate them in their beds?

                          my kids are uncomfortable sleeping alone, even if i put them to bed in their own beds, by the time they are asleep they are all together in one bed,

                          I was thinking alhamdulillah i got them out of my bed tbh, and its nice they are so bonded, lol, i try to get the oldest one to sleep by herself but then she cries she is scared and lonely.

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                          • #14
                            Re: separate them in their beds?

                            Originally posted by naila-k View Post
                            is this a must?

                            I dont get it, many older sisters look after their younger siblings so have them in same beds? so is it when the oldest is 7 or the youngest?
                            yes,

                            if you can't give them both seperate beds then one child can sleep with the parents and the other in their own bed ...

                            You can also give them both seperate beds in one Room, far as i'm aware naught wrong with that.

                            If you can't afford to buy seperate beds, then you can make one on the floor, like sister Asiya said ...

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                            Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 08-09-12, 03:28 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Re: separate them in their beds?

                              Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
                              yes,

                              if you can't give them both seperate beds then one child can sleep with the parents and the other in their own bed ...

                              You can also give them both seperate beds in one Room, far as i'm aware naught wrong with that.



                              If you can't afford to buy seperate beds, then you can make one on the floor, like sister Asiya said ...

                              :jkk:
                              Ok, what is the reason behind this? Why can't they sleep with their sisters or mothers? If my daughter turns 7 and sleeps with me in the same bed, will I be sinning? Or is it just not preferred?

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