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  • Muslim First
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by Basil al-Mamluk View Post
    i pretty much wear a kufi all the time. i get the orthodox jew thing a lot and i have gotten the "stop trying to act black" thing a couple times. however, there was one incident in the gym where a brother pulled me aside because he saw me in the kufi. said he was new to the area and wanted to find a place to pray. fast forward a couple weeks and i come to a local musala to pray and the brother's wife and step children are taking shahadah there. now, i didnt have much to do with that but inshaAllah i hope i get a piece of that reward for facilitating things, so to speak.

    wearing thobe and qamis and whatnot is more or less a "game time decision". if im in a place where i think i wont get taken seriously i.e. "white boy gone native" then i dont. but if im in a place where its common practice for muslims to dress in this manner e.g. philly, various places in uk, then i will. lounging around the house then its usually just sweatpants and an old short sleeved thobe.

    and various madhhabs have stressed various aspects of sunnah garb e.g. hanafis and the headcovering, malikis and the prayer shawl.

    one sunnah that i see getting really ignored is the imamah
    I'm starting to wear it now.. Everyone wears the saudi scarf around here. But I'm gonna wear the Turban.

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  • Basil al-Mamluk
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    i was out of town yesterday, visiting a friend in the hospital

    as i was driving around looking for a parking space, i saw a brother WITH A KUFI ON HIS HEAD and asked him about jumua salat

    he directed me towards two local masjids

    now, if he didnt have a kufi, but was walking around looking like johnny smith, i would never have asked him, nor would we have gotten the blessings of meeting, the salam, or telling me where to pray

    we both agreed how important it is to look like a muslim, (though i did see quite a few sisters in hijab, but i wasnt going to approach them)

    but its this thing lately of "knowledge" whereby muslim men feel it is ok to walk around incognito

    thinking because they look arab or pakistani, that is sufficient
    i pretty much wear a kufi all the time. i get the orthodox jew thing a lot and i have gotten the "stop trying to act black" thing a couple times. however, there was one incident in the gym where a brother pulled me aside because he saw me in the kufi. said he was new to the area and wanted to find a place to pray. fast forward a couple weeks and i come to a local musala to pray and the brother's wife and step children are taking shahadah there. now, i didnt have much to do with that but inshaAllah i hope i get a piece of that reward for facilitating things, so to speak.

    wearing thobe and qamis and whatnot is more or less a "game time decision". if im in a place where i think i wont get taken seriously i.e. "white boy gone native" then i dont. but if im in a place where its common practice for muslims to dress in this manner e.g. philly, various places in uk, then i will. lounging around the house then its usually just sweatpants and an old short sleeved thobe.

    and various madhhabs have stressed various aspects of sunnah garb e.g. hanafis and the headcovering, malikis and the prayer shawl.

    one sunnah that i see getting really ignored is the imamah

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  • truepath
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by Sandman View Post
    Or they might answer the salam with "wa alaikum Salam" regardless of being Muslim or not. I have been giving Salam by plenty of Rastafarians, I was even giving Salam by an Orphodox Jew just yesterday. It's not as easy and I have mixed feelings about which side to play it safe on i.e "he is learly a rasta' or a Jew I'll say "wa alaikum" vs "I'm not sure he looks arab, i'll return the salam or it might be offensive.".
    Once I was going for an entrance exam... and this guy was looking at me... so I thought may be he has seen me somewhere or know me, so I just said salam to him...and the guy turns out to be a hindu idiot and kept on giggling as if I cracked a joke on his head.

    So, I have taken the approach that I wont be giving salam to a random joe, unless I know he is muslim or his appearance is of that of a muslim

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  • Sandman
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by truepath View Post
    Abu M, unless there is an apparent sunnah such as beard or the sunnah dressing you wouldn't be able to tell whether a guy from india or pakistan is a muslim or hindu... however, if you speak to him then by his style of talk you might be able to tell whether the guy is a muslim or not even though by appears the distinction might not be visible
    Or they might answer the salam with "wa alaikum Salam" regardless of being Muslim or not. I have been giving Salam by plenty of Rastafarians, I was even giving Salam by an Orphodox Jew just yesterday. It's not as easy and I have mixed feelings about which side to play it safe on i.e "he is learly a rasta' or a Jew I'll say "wa alaikum" vs "I'm not sure he looks arab, i'll return the salam or it might be offensive.".

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  • truepath
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Abu M, unless there is an apparent sunnah such as beard or the sunnah dressing you wouldn't be able to tell whether a guy from india or pakistan is a muslim or hindu... however, if you speak to him then by his style of talk you might be able to tell whether the guy is a muslim or not even though by appears the distinction might not be visible

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  • AbuMubarak
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    i was out of town yesterday, visiting a friend in the hospital

    as i was driving around looking for a parking space, i saw a brother WITH A KUFI ON HIS HEAD and asked him about jumua salat

    he directed me towards two local masjids

    now, if he didnt have a kufi, but was walking around looking like johnny smith, i would never have asked him, nor would we have gotten the blessings of meeting, the salam, or telling me where to pray

    we both agreed how important it is to look like a muslim, (though i did see quite a few sisters in hijab, but i wasnt going to approach them)

    but its this thing lately of "knowledge" whereby muslim men feel it is ok to walk around incognito

    thinking because they look arab or pakistani, that is sufficient

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  • Muslim First
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by truepath View Post
    That Nabi who taught us how to shower / take ghusl

    That Nabi who taught us how to enter and how to exit from the masjid

    That Nabi who taught us how to sleep and how to make up in bed with our wife

    That Nabi who taught us to be different from the Jews and eat sahri for fasting, because they do not make sahri

    That Nabi who taught us to be different from the disbelievers by growing beard and trimming mustaches, because the disbelievers said to him :saw: that their Lord (king) said to shave the beard and grow mustaches

    Not just that.... That Nabi who taught us even a simple thing as to how to enter into the toilet and not just that but how to relieve yourself and how to clean yourself as well.

    If a muslim thinks that the same Nabi left us to our desires in the matters of dressing and did not teach us about the dressing and be different in our dressing style, then I feel pity on such a shallow understanding of such people who think that its all cultural and there is no reward for trying to imitate the lifestyle of the prophet :saw in his dressing

    Atleast try to be bold, honest and truthful by acknowledging the fact about sunnah in dressing rather than making lame excuses like its all cultural and there is no clear proof of sunnah clothing or whatever... it only exposes what a weakling of a man you are
    :up:

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  • truepath
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    That Nabi who taught us how to shower / take ghusl

    That Nabi who taught us how to enter and how to exit from the masjid

    That Nabi who taught us how to sleep and how to make up in bed with our wife

    That Nabi who taught us to be different from the Jews and eat sahri for fasting, because they do not make sahri

    That Nabi who taught us to be different from the disbelievers by growing beard and trimming mustaches, because the disbelievers said to him :saw: that their Lord (king) said to shave the beard and grow mustaches

    Not just that.... That Nabi who taught us even a simple thing as to how to enter into the toilet and not just that but how to relieve yourself and how to clean yourself as well.

    If a muslim thinks that the same Nabi left us to our desires in the matters of dressing and did not teach us about the dressing and be different in our dressing style, then I feel pity on such a shallow understanding of such people who think that its all cultural and there is no reward for trying to imitate the lifestyle of the prophet :saw in his dressing

    Atleast try to be bold, honest and truthful by acknowledging the fact about sunnah in dressing rather than making lame excuses like its all cultural and there is no clear proof of sunnah clothing or whatever... it only exposes what a weakling of a man you are
    Last edited by truepath; 23-10-13, 08:42 PM.

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  • truepath
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by |Sister| View Post
    All men whining about how difficult it would be to wear a thobe or salwar kameez in western countries should use that excuse for your sisters when they are afraid to wear hijab because they don't want to lose their job. Just because it's fard doesn't make it any easier on them than it would be on you. Now grow a beard, grow your hair longer, wear all white, loose clothing and quit being such a coward.
    well said and straight to the point

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  • AbuMubarak
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    Re: Sunnah Clothing

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    Allah gave the women a mercy, He COMMANDED their dress

    whereas the brothers, they were not commanded exactly what to wear, but they were given a beautiful pattern of conduct if they believe in Allah and the Last Day

    that is the sunnah (ie, identify yourself as a muslim)
    Last edited by AbuMubarak; 23-10-13, 08:00 PM.

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  • AbuMubarak
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    Re: Sunnah Clothing
    "Clothing, it is well understood that clothing reflects attitude, culture, and a host of other psychological aspects of the human. Today we see how immodest clothing has become and it reflects the overall immorality of our society. Allah has told us not to let shaytan remove our clothing as he did our parents (Adam and Hawa).

    When a man does not stand up and identify himself as a Muslim, outwardly, he is missing out on dawa and his public statement is much weaker.

    I want to see strong men in our family who do not fear the blame of the blamers, who are willing to be the foremost in faith. All of our mujahideen, scholars, and leaders for centuries donned Islamic clothing. When Europeans came to Baghdad to learn science, they imitated the Muslims with names and clothing, because it MEANS SOMETHING. So too today, when you see the leaders of 170 nations all wearing suits and ties, it shows the European he is boss and everyone else is following his lead. " - My Father

    To outwardly identify yourself as a MUSLIM.."it means something"

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  • veetha
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    Muslim men in my country rarely wear thobes. They usually wear this

    http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1304152/134102369/stock-vector-a-young-muslim-man-posing-in-wearing-indonesian-traditional-man-clothes-134102369.jpg

    Sometimes with saroong too

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  • MuslimSoljah
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    so you have adopted wesern clothing to be your clothing, the norm, or regular clothing?

    and islamic clothing as "exoctic" or cultural

    why not reverse that? at least mentally

    when the kuffar convene a meeting at the UN, and all these non-eurpeans come in suits & ties, the kuffar KNOW they are in charge and are the leaders and examples to be followed and obeyed
    its not that i dont have time to wear this clothing, i cycle a lot, and can't cycle in a thobe and i dont wear anything special i shop for clothes every 2 years.

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  • AbuMubarak
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by MuslimSoljah View Post
    What the heck is Islamic clothing? I would never wear a thobe or salwa kames in this country, ever. If I go to the middle east or south asia then I will
    so you have adopted wesern clothing to be your clothing, the norm, or regular clothing?

    and islamic clothing as "exoctic" or cultural

    why not reverse that? at least mentally

    when the kuffar convene a meeting at the UN, and all these non-eurpeans come in suits & ties, the kuffar KNOW they are in charge and are the leaders and examples to be followed and obeyed

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  • Sandman
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    Re: MashaAllah seeing more brothers wearing Islamic clothing-robe

    Originally posted by chameleon View Post
    I replied to you politely, there was no reason for you to make the above comments was there? This is how animosity starts on this forum.
    I also made it clear that my animosity was not soley directed at you. It is for anyone that disregards the Sunnah of our Nabi(SAW) and indirectly claims that the understanding the Sahabah(RA) had of Islam is incorrect. Which is what a claim of "the Sunnah az'zaw'id is simply cultural and not part of Islam" actually is. If you fit into that catagory then it is by your own ill-education and choosing.

    You did say you would verify if your position was correct(which it wasn't and isn't), but still went ahead with reitterating that you think Sunnah clothing is "cultural"(i.e not part of Islam). Hence my reply and indeed my animosity. Its nothing personal as soon as you correct your understanding and refrain from spreading misconceptions I'll have no problem with you at all. Until then it is the duty of every Muslim that knows the truth to correct those that believe and worse still spread falsehood.

    "I think...." then stating a matter of deen has to have some evidence and that evidence needs to be verified by "those who know"(i.e Scholars). I have 1400 years of Scholarship, the actions of Sahabah(RA) and pretty much the understanding of every Reputable Scholar in today's world regardless of them ascribing to Wahabi, Deobandi, Salfi, etc schools of thought as proof that Sunnah clothing is part of Islam. You so far seem to have "I think...".

    I sincerely hope the above isn't regarded as impolite. It could all be said much more concisely if I wasn't actually trying to help you understand that you are wrong, I could simply have said "Shut up, you don't know anything(could use a different word here)", then that would be impolite.

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