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  • purple89
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    Nice topic.

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  • Uthman Ibn Afan
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    Originally posted by Uthman Ibn Afan View Post
    Just to add some variety...

    Sufism and the Imam of Deobandiyah

    "From the beginning of times until now, the amount of harm the Sufis have done to the religion, no other sect has been able to do so. They have harmed the religion in prophetic tradition, theology, action and ideology.

    The Prophet’s spiritual strength was such that the biggest of disbelievers were able to reach the level of excellence by merely pronouncing the testimony of faith. An example of this was their query of how to use the toilet and be naked in front of Allah. This is what they reached. They were in no need to exercises or struggling as the effects of these were already present in them via the spiritual influence of the Prophet, albeit at a lesser level. This spiritual power was present also in the Tabi`een but at a lesser level from that of the Companions. This became less in the following generation. To recompense for the loss in influence-based spirituality, the noble people created exercises and struggles.

    These practices remained at the level of means that were not considered to be the aim per se, but as time went farther away from the best generations, they started becoming an aim per se and target of and within themselves. These were incremented as time went by, the result of which was that an unlimited amount of ideological, practical and theological innovations entered into the religion. The Muhaqqiq Sufis eradicated these evils, but the result of this was the innovations were only reduced in number, not eradicated completely."

    Shaykh Rashid Ahmed Gangohi
    I also like Maududis analysis of Sufism
    http://kondori.wordpress.com/2011/05...i-on-tasawwuf/

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  • Dark Knight
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    Top thread akhii :)

    My contribuition:

    I think I'll leave this clip here by Sheikh Zahir Mahmood for all the Muhadiseen, Mufasireen, Auliyaa Allah, Muftis, Sheikh ul hadees, internet alims, google muftis,internet children, alims etc

    'Wahabi' & 'Sufi'- Muslim sectarianism- Sh. Zahir Mahmood
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4QRxtn34n4

    Jazakumullah

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Assalaamu 'alaykum

    Hereby we have completed a selection of quotes by the revered imam, the shaykh the 'allamah Nawarallahu marqadahu concerning a severely misunderstood branch of the din i.e. tasawwuf or sufism.

    In the following posts we will continue discussing quotes from other imams respected and revered primarily by the Salafiyyah concerning the same.

    However, before proceeding I would like to see some intellectual; academic; factual comments insha'Allah...

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Sixth quote:

    The great
    We informed them that indeed that which we believe in and the way by which we worship Allah, in the principles of religion, is the way of the and the predecessors (salaf) of this Ummah. As to matters of jurisprudence, we follow the madhhab of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal; we do not refute those who follow the four imams, or consider ourselves to be worthy of ijtihadmakhsusmadhhab. Indeed, the opinions of some of the imams within the four madhhabs, in some matters of fiqh, have been different to the way of those who firmly follow (t
    ) his speech and his actions. We only place our reliance on, seek help from, beseech aid from and place our confidence in all our dealings in Allah Most High. He is enough for us, the best trustee, the best mawla and the best helper. May Allah send peace on our master Muhammad, his family and companions.


    [Al-Hadiyyah al-Suniyyah (page 50)]

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  • Beblessed
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    Mashallah this is very benefical thread especially for those who claim there is no such thing as Tassawwuf (Sufism) in the deen, infact all the scholars of the past may Allaah be pleased with them and His Mercy on them, practised Tassawwuf and Zuhd.

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Assalaamu 'Alaykum

    And now continuing with quotations from Nawwarallahu Marqadahu

    Fifth quote:

    The shaykh writes in following a delicate discussion on those who have rejected the love of Allah and those who have affirmed it:

    So, His love itself is the basis of His worship, and assigning equals (shirk) in love is the basis of polytheism in His worship. These are those who resemble the Christians; in them is a form of polytheism of the type that the Christians possess.

    This is why the Sufi shaykhs Sunnah nafs


    [ (appendix, page 24)]

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Fourth quote:

    The shaykh writes in :

    It is known that the Ummah Sunnah fitnahfaqih and a scholar who is an ascetic (zahid, which would necessitate abstinence from wrong and make jihad Ummah


    [, (appendix, page 182)]

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  • Uthman Ibn Afan
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    Just to add some variety...

    Sufism and the Imam of Deobandiyah

    "From the beginning of times until now, the amount of harm the Sufis have done to the religion, no other sect has been able to do so. They have harmed the religion in prophetic tradition, theology, action and ideology.

    The Prophet’s spiritual strength was such that the biggest of disbelievers were able to reach the level of excellence by merely pronouncing the testimony of faith. An example of this was their query of how to use the toilet and be naked in front of Allah. This is what they reached. They were in no need to exercises or struggling as the effects of these were already present in them via the spiritual influence of the Prophet, albeit at a lesser level. This spiritual power was present also in the Tabi`een but at a lesser level from that of the Companions. This became less in the following generation. To recompense for the loss in influence-based spirituality, the noble people created exercises and struggles.

    These practices remained at the level of means that were not considered to be the aim per se, but as time went farther away from the best generations, they started becoming an aim per se and target of and within themselves. These were incremented as time went by, the result of which was that an unlimited amount of ideological, practical and theological innovations entered into the religion. The Muhaqqiq Sufis eradicated these evils, but the result of this was the innovations were only reduced in number, not eradicated completely."

    Shaykh Rashid Ahmed Gangohi

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Third quote:, the shaykh writes:

    When the piety of the heart and its steadfastness in its journey to Allah Most High is dependent on its connection to Allah; and [when] the disorder of the heart can only be rectified by its complete attachment to Him, for the disarrangement of the heart can only be corrected by turning to Him; and [when] excessive drink and food, socialising with people, sleep and talk are from among those elements that increase its disorientation, disperse it in every valley, and separate, weaken, hamper and stop it in its journey to Allah Most High, then the wisdom of He Who is Powerful and Merciful has made it necessary on His slaves that a number of fasts be prescribed that would end the excessive consumption of food and drink, and vacate the heart from a mixture of carnal desires that have hampered it in its path to Allah. A suitable amount [of fasts] have been prescribed through which the slave may derive benefit in the affairs of his world and the hereafter, and not harm him.

    has been prescribed to them, the purpose and spirit of which is to devote the heart to Allah, separate it from the creation and preoccupy it with He alone. As a result, the individual becomes intimate and friendly (unsiyyah) with Allah instead of the creation. Hence, due to this intimacy with Allah, he will consider the time spent in solitude to be the time of loneliness in the grave.

    When it is the case that this objective can only be accomplished through fasting,has been prescribed in the best days of fasts, which are the last ten days of Ramadan. Allah Most High has also only mentioned with fasting and the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) only remained in while fasting.

    As far as talk is concerned, He has decreed that the Ummah restrain their tongues from all speech that is not beneficial in the hereafter.

    As to excessive sleep, He has prescribed for them the prayer of the night, which is the best of all vigils and most praiseworthy in outcome, and that is the prayer of the middle of the night which benefits the heart and the body and does not hamper the interests of the slave. The focus of the religious exercises of the people of spiritual exercises and Suluk ((The reference is to the Sufis as is clear.)) is on these four principles. Fortunate from among them in this is he who treads the Muhammadan way, and does not diverge like those who are extreme and does not lax like those who are slack. We have mentioned his guidance in fasting, praying and speech, now we shall mention his guidance in .


    [, chapter regarding tafsir and (vol. 4, page 84)]

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  • Brother Hassan
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    Originally posted by deen1984 View Post
    can i be sufi? i want to try this http://youtu.be/cX66n-uxghg
    Fear Allah before making such a post. Brother afriki_haqq is deobandi and I am sure he disagrees with the video you posted. Please re-read the starting posts. Some sufi's are fake just like some salafis ( do you want me to give examples ? ). Not all sufis are fake and a true sufi follows the Qur'an & Sunnah.

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  • deen1984
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    can i be sufi? i want to try this http://youtu.be/cX66n-uxghg

    Originally posted by afriki_haqq View Post
    Second Quote:

    The shaykh writes in a treatise entitled Arb‘at Qawa‘id Tadur al-Ahkam ‘alayha:

    Know — may Allah have mercy on you — religion revolves around these four sentences, in spite of their brevity; this is regardless of whether the speaker is speaking regarding the science of tafsir, the science of usul (principles of fiqh), the science of the deeds of the heart, which is known as the science of Suluk, the science of hadith, the science of that which is permissible and impermissible and ahkam which is known as the science of fiqh, or regarding the knowledge of the rewards and punishments that aspire from good and bad deeds (wa‘d and wa‘id), or regarding any other religious science apart from these…


    [Mu’allafat al-Imam al-Shaykh Muhammad bin ‘Abd al-Wahhab, chapter regarding fiqh (vol. 2, page 4)]

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Assalaamu 'Alaykum

    Before I continue posting more quotes from the imams of the Salafiyyah I want some comments. Even a positive rep will suffice guys.

    Where are all the people that normally waste away their lives criticising and attacking sufism as if it is some misguided deviated sect?

    If we can not have an academic discussion than it shows that this forum is only fit for baseless, mindless, corrupt and wasteful "chatting".

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  • afriki_haqq
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    Second Quote:

    The shaykh writes in a treatise entitled :

    religion revolves around these four sentences, in spite of their brevity; this is regardless of whether the speaker is speaking regarding the science of tafsir, the science of usul (principles of fiqh), the science of the deeds of the heart, which is known as the science of Suluk, the science of hadith, the science of that which is permissible and impermissible and ahkam which is known as the science of fiqh, or regarding the knowledge of the rewards and punishments that aspire from good and bad deeds ( and


    [, chapter regarding fiqh (vol. 2, page 4)]
    Last edited by afriki_haqq; 09-03-12, 09:45 AM.

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  • abu saalehah
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    mashallaah, finally the sufis start a fight back against the deviants who have stolen their clothes to misguide the people

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