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  • Sufism and the Imaams of the Salafiyyah

    Assalaamu 'Alaykumsalaf as-saliheen.

    The truth, in reality, is different. According to the imams and revered personalities of the Salafiyya, the Sufis are an Islamic group like other Islamic groups, such as the hadith experts (muhaddiths), jurists (faqihs), theologians (mutakallims), historians and mujahids etc.

    Among them are the correct and incorrect, the pious and impious, and authentic and false.
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    Whenever one of these above groups is mentioned, the pious, correct and authentic among them is always intended.

    For example:
    • ummah Such as:


    The word muhaddith in its general sense is never used by anyone to intend those charlatans, liars and fabricators who affiliated themselves to this noble group, and whose corruption and fraud was exposed by the imams of (the science of evaluating and critiquing narrators) in every time and age, as is widely known. This is the situation with regards to the jurists, theologians, mujahids, historians and other Muslim groups.

    Likewise, this should also be the case with the Sufis.
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      How many of us are even aware of what Tasawwuf actually is? You do have those who claim sufism but there practises are completely against Islam but this generalising is quite ridiculous.

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        A humble request to the mods to allow my posts in this thread to pass modding, please.
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          • who treaded their righteous path are intended.
          • The word Sufi should never be used to mean those impostors who were astray and who in practice strayedstrangers in matters of Tasawwuf, and highwaymen in the path to Allah and the hereafter.
          The hujjah shall always remain the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace).

          We shall consider ourselves at the service of whomever we find in accordance to the teachings and principles of these authorities.

          We shall not consider those who oppose the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), and the principles and teachings of these two authorities, to be anything. For us Allah is enough and he is the best trustee.
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            (imams and more.
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              In the next few posts we will look at what the imam Sufi shaykhs.

              First Quote:

              The shaykh upon being asked an important question replied:

              fiqh and speak regarding it, such as the jurists, and those who focus on worship and the quest for the hereafter, such as the Sufis, then Allah has sent His Prophet with this all-inclusive religion for two reasons.

              From amongst the greatest things with which Allah has strengthened him and his Ummah ). Allah mentions in His Book one word that becomes an all-inclusive principle under which innumerable


              [, chapter regarding
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                mashallaah, finally the sufis start a fight back against the deviants who have stolen their clothes to misguide the people
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                  Second Quote:

                  The shaykh writes in a treatise entitled :

                  religion revolves around these four sentences, in spite of their brevity; this is regardless of whether the speaker is speaking regarding the science of tafsir, the science of usul (principles of fiqh), the science of the deeds of the heart, which is known as the science of Suluk, the science of hadith, the science of that which is permissible and impermissible and ahkam which is known as the science of fiqh, or regarding the knowledge of the rewards and punishments that aspire from good and bad deeds ( and


                  [, chapter regarding fiqh (vol. 2, page 4)]
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                    Assalaamu 'Alaykum

                    Before I continue posting more quotes from the imams of the Salafiyyah I want some comments. Even a positive rep will suffice guys.

                    Where are all the people that normally waste away their lives criticising and attacking sufism as if it is some misguided deviated sect?

                    If we can not have an academic discussion than it shows that this forum is only fit for baseless, mindless, corrupt and wasteful "chatting".
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                      can i be sufi? i want to try this http://youtu.be/cX66n-uxghg

                      Originally posted by afriki_haqq View Post
                      Second Quote:

                      The shaykh writes in a treatise entitled Arb‘at Qawa‘id Tadur al-Ahkam ‘alayha:

                      Know — may Allah have mercy on you — religion revolves around these four sentences, in spite of their brevity; this is regardless of whether the speaker is speaking regarding the science of tafsir, the science of usul (principles of fiqh), the science of the deeds of the heart, which is known as the science of Suluk, the science of hadith, the science of that which is permissible and impermissible and ahkam which is known as the science of fiqh, or regarding the knowledge of the rewards and punishments that aspire from good and bad deeds (wa‘d and wa‘id), or regarding any other religious science apart from these…


                      [Mu’allafat al-Imam al-Shaykh Muhammad bin ‘Abd al-Wahhab, chapter regarding fiqh (vol. 2, page 4)]
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                        Originally posted by deen1984 View Post
                        can i be sufi? i want to try this http://youtu.be/cX66n-uxghg
                        Fear Allah before making such a post. Brother afriki_haqq is deobandi and I am sure he disagrees with the video you posted. Please re-read the starting posts. Some sufi's are fake just like some salafis ( do you want me to give examples ? ). Not all sufis are fake and a true sufi follows the Qur'an & Sunnah.
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                          Third quote:, the shaykh writes:

                          When the piety of the heart and its steadfastness in its journey to Allah Most High is dependent on its connection to Allah; and [when] the disorder of the heart can only be rectified by its complete attachment to Him, for the disarrangement of the heart can only be corrected by turning to Him; and [when] excessive drink and food, socialising with people, sleep and talk are from among those elements that increase its disorientation, disperse it in every valley, and separate, weaken, hamper and stop it in its journey to Allah Most High, then the wisdom of He Who is Powerful and Merciful has made it necessary on His slaves that a number of fasts be prescribed that would end the excessive consumption of food and drink, and vacate the heart from a mixture of carnal desires that have hampered it in its path to Allah. A suitable amount [of fasts] have been prescribed through which the slave may derive benefit in the affairs of his world and the hereafter, and not harm him.

                          has been prescribed to them, the purpose and spirit of which is to devote the heart to Allah, separate it from the creation and preoccupy it with He alone. As a result, the individual becomes intimate and friendly (unsiyyah) with Allah instead of the creation. Hence, due to this intimacy with Allah, he will consider the time spent in solitude to be the time of loneliness in the grave.

                          When it is the case that this objective can only be accomplished through fasting,has been prescribed in the best days of fasts, which are the last ten days of Ramadan. Allah Most High has also only mentioned with fasting and the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) only remained in while fasting.

                          As far as talk is concerned, He has decreed that the Ummah restrain their tongues from all speech that is not beneficial in the hereafter.

                          As to excessive sleep, He has prescribed for them the prayer of the night, which is the best of all vigils and most praiseworthy in outcome, and that is the prayer of the middle of the night which benefits the heart and the body and does not hamper the interests of the slave. The focus of the religious exercises of the people of spiritual exercises and Suluk ((The reference is to the Sufis as is clear.)) is on these four principles. Fortunate from among them in this is he who treads the Muhammadan way, and does not diverge like those who are extreme and does not lax like those who are slack. We have mentioned his guidance in fasting, praying and speech, now we shall mention his guidance in .


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                            Re: Sufism and the Imaams of the Salafiyyah

                            Just to add some variety...

                            Sufism and the Imam of Deobandiyah

                            "From the beginning of times until now, the amount of harm the Sufis have done to the religion, no other sect has been able to do so. They have harmed the religion in prophetic tradition, theology, action and ideology.

                            The Prophet’s spiritual strength was such that the biggest of disbelievers were able to reach the level of excellence by merely pronouncing the testimony of faith. An example of this was their query of how to use the toilet and be naked in front of Allah. This is what they reached. They were in no need to exercises or struggling as the effects of these were already present in them via the spiritual influence of the Prophet, albeit at a lesser level. This spiritual power was present also in the Tabi`een but at a lesser level from that of the Companions. This became less in the following generation. To recompense for the loss in influence-based spirituality, the noble people created exercises and struggles.

                            These practices remained at the level of means that were not considered to be the aim per se, but as time went farther away from the best generations, they started becoming an aim per se and target of and within themselves. These were incremented as time went by, the result of which was that an unlimited amount of ideological, practical and theological innovations entered into the religion. The Muhaqqiq Sufis eradicated these evils, but the result of this was the innovations were only reduced in number, not eradicated completely."

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                              Fourth quote:

                              The shaykh writes in :

                              It is known that the Ummah Sunnah fitnahfaqih and a scholar who is an ascetic (zahid, which would necessitate abstinence from wrong and make jihad Ummah


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