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  • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

    Originally posted by Muslim First View Post
    When it comes to fgm it's just ignorant people clinging to their culture. Their is a proper way to do it, and then their's a barbaric way to do it.
    Does the proper way involve clinics and doctors to ensure hyeginity and avoid dangers like spticemia?
    Not knowing what one doesn't know will lead to difficulty

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    • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

      Originally posted by JessicaYong
      What you complaining about? Islam approves that
      Should I laugh or cry?
      You know you're growing old when the candles cost more than the cake

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      • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

        Originally posted by JessicaYong
        What you complaining about? Islam approves that
        heeey heeeeey

        who do you think you are ??? caming all gun blazing trying to mock our religion

        the fact that you think islam approves of FGM shows ur ignorance in the matter

        http://quran.cc/images/Quranlogo.png........http://i.imgur.com/b066ayL.png

        “My sin burdened me heavily. But when I measured it against Your Grace, O Lord, Your forgiveness came out greater.” Imam Shafie

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        • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

          Originally posted by JessicaYong
          cry, because quran could have stopped it, but it did not.
          Quran has also taught me tolerance towards the likes of you.
          You know you're growing old when the candles cost more than the cake

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          • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

            Type I: This is the mildest form of FGC, which includes removing or splitting the prepuce (foreskin or ‘hood’) which covers the clitoris of females, thus exposing the glans. This may be couple with partial or total excision of the clitoris. This is known as clitoridotomy (slang: hoodectomy). According to the United Nations Population Fund, this form is comparable to male circumcision.[7] This is sometimes also called “sunna circumcision” due to the fact that it is this type which is performed commonly by those Muslims who believe it to be legislated in Islam.

            Prophet Mohammad:saw: approved of hoodectomy ,its a well known in hospitals around the world in Eroupe,US and Asia
            get ur facts right

            http://quran.cc/images/Quranlogo.png........http://i.imgur.com/b066ayL.png

            “My sin burdened me heavily. But when I measured it against Your Grace, O Lord, Your forgiveness came out greater.” Imam Shafie

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            • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

              Originally posted by JessicaYong
              That's not a good answer, and have nothing to do with what is being discussed. Basically you are speechless.
              No, I have realised over the years that debating with people who are one track minded is often just one tracked, besides you didn't give proof of it.
              You know you're growing old when the candles cost more than the cake

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              • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                Originally posted by bazinga View Post
                But female circumcision is in Islam, so how can it have no place in Islam ?




                Female genital mutilation has no place in Islam. The removing of an entire part of that anatomy and the sewing together of other parts of that area has no place in Islam. The circumcision practiced in Islam doesnt involve the removal of the entire clitoris and is not obligatory according to the majority.

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                • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                  There is a massive thread on this already HERE. We don't need another one. The other thread covers all the answers.


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                  • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                    Originally posted by purple89 View Post
                    Female genital mutilation has no place in Islam. The removing of an entire part of that anatomy and the sewing together of other parts of that area has no place in Islam. The circumcision practiced in Islam doesnt involve the removal of the entire clitoris and is not obligatory according to the majority.

                    whether obligatory or not, it is a sunnah for women to have part of the clitoris removed (female circumcision). Are you denying that ?

                    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/1188

                    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/427

                    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/60314

                    http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=81776

                    http://main.islamweb.net/emainpage/i...twaId&Id=82042
                    Last edited by bazinga; 07-03-13, 02:05 PM.

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                    • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                      Originally posted by bazinga View Post
                      whether obligatory or not, it is a sunnah for women to have part of the clitoris removed. Are you denying that ?
                      i see you are back to ur old tricks

                      http://quran.cc/images/Quranlogo.png........http://i.imgur.com/b066ayL.png

                      “My sin burdened me heavily. But when I measured it against Your Grace, O Lord, Your forgiveness came out greater.” Imam Shafie

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                      • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                        Originally posted by innocent_girl View Post
                        i see you are back to ur old tricks

                        Originally posted by purple89 View Post
                        Female genital mutilation has no place in Islam. The removing of an entire part of that anatomy and the sewing together of other parts of that area has no place in Islam. The circumcision practiced in Islam doesnt involve the removal of the entire clitoris and is not obligatory according to the majority.

                        whether obligatory or not, it is a sunnah for women to have part of the clitoris removed (female circumcision). Are you denying that ?

                        http://islamqa.info/en/ref/1188

                        http://islamqa.info/en/ref/427

                        http://islamqa.info/en/ref/60314

                        http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=81776

                        http://main.islamweb.net/emainpage/i...twaId&Id=82042

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                        • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                          Originally posted by JessicaYong
                          small part of big part cutting clitoris is wrong period. Its FGM.
                          According to you even Islam is wrong, so what do you suggest?? I put on a skirt and play bagpipes coz you said so?
                          You know you're growing old when the candles cost more than the cake

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                          • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                            Originally posted by bazinga View Post
                            whether obligatory or not, it is a sunnah for women to have part of the clitoris removed (female circumcision). Are you denying that ?

                            http://islamqa.info/en/ref/1188

                            http://islamqa.info/en/ref/427

                            http://islamqa.info/en/ref/60314

                            http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=81776

                            http://main.islamweb.net/emainpage/i...twaId&Id=82042
                            Where exactly in my post did I deny anything? You've done your own research as to removal of the entire or part and I believe those sources very clearly state what the Islamic female circumcision is and the differences of opinion that exist regarding what is removed and its importance.

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                            • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                              Originally posted by bazinga View Post
                              whether obligatory or not, it is a sunnah for women to have part of the clitoris removed (female circumcision). Are you denying that ?

                              http://islamqa.info/en/ref/1188

                              http://islamqa.info/en/ref/427

                              http://islamqa.info/en/ref/60314

                              http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=81776

                              http://main.islamweb.net/emainpage/i...twaId&Id=82042
                              when the excessive or extra skin stopes the clitoris from stimulating who the hell are you to say it can't be removed !

                              http://quran.cc/images/Quranlogo.png........http://i.imgur.com/b066ayL.png

                              “My sin burdened me heavily. But when I measured it against Your Grace, O Lord, Your forgiveness came out greater.” Imam Shafie

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                              • Re: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM)

                                Originally posted by JessicaYong
                                small part of big part cutting clitoris is wrong period. Its FGM.
                                thats is not whats done in islam. what is done in islam is called a hoodectomy it benefits women in so many ways ( which i wont go into in a mixed gender forum ) needless to say, it benefits a woman so much so that non muslim flock to have it done in private clinics. look it up, from london to paris, to new york non muslim women are paying to have this done.
                                Last edited by *asiya*; 07-03-13, 02:26 PM.
                                "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                                The Prophet :saw: said:

                                "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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                                Narrated 'Abdullah:

                                The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                                "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                                By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                                [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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