Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

[AX1300]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

Was expecting a massive cut and paste job.

Anyone who feels threatened by a pyramid or ancient relic, or an 'idol' needs to have a serious look at themselves.

The 'holier than thou' attitude from some Muslims is laughable.

How long have Muslims better than us ruled over lands like Egypt and Iraq, yet they preserved many of their relics. And now we come along and say what is what, lol, that is some arrogance.

And what is an 'idol' exactly? People don't worship these buildings and relics.

IslamQA? a Wahabi/Salafi orientated website, I wonder what they would say... people with that mindset are very detached and don't appreciate history/culture.

[*asiya*]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

Was expecting a massive cut and paste job.

Anyone who feels threatened by a pyramid or ancient relic, or an 'idol' needs to have a serious look at themselves.

The 'holier than thou' attitude from some Muslims is laughable.

How long have Muslims better than us ruled over lands like Egypt and Iraq, yet they preserved many of their relics. And now we come along and say what is what, lol, that is some arrogance.

And what is an 'idol' exactly? People don't worship these buildings and relics.

IslamQA? a Wahabi/Salafi orientated website, I wonder what they would say... people with that mindset are very detached and don't appreciate history/culture.

the ayats of Allah and the statements of the prophet :saw: and the actions of the sahabbah mean nothing to you at all ? la howla wala qawata illah billah,may Allah remove the veil from your heart and make u see again amin.

[AX1300]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

the ayats of Allah and the statements of the prophet :saw: and the actions of the sahabbah mean nothing to you at all ? la howla wala qawata illah billah,may Allah remove the veil from your heart and make u see again amin.

Why do you have to be so dramatic?

Its really annoying when people say things like that.

I don't feel threatened by a pyramid or sphinx, and I certainly won't start worshipping them. They are in Muslim lands where people are Muslims and don't worship idols.

The response from IslamQA was a typical response, and for me just not relevant to anything.

Social matters too, these people are so disconnected. Didn't they say something like you can't have friends that are not Muslims? lol

[-Shamil-]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

Was expecting a massive cut and paste job.

Anyone who feels threatened by a pyramid or ancient relic, or an 'idol' needs to have a serious look at themselves.

The 'holier than thou' attitude from some Muslims is laughable.

How long have Muslims better than us ruled over lands like Egypt and Iraq, yet they preserved many of their relics. And now we come along and say what is what, lol, that is some arrogance.

And what is an 'idol' exactly? People don't worship these buildings and relics.

IslamQA? a Wahabi/Salafi orientated website, I wonder what they would say... people with that mindset are very detached and don't appreciate history/culture.

interesting point - what did previous and more pious islamic nations think of such relics and why did they leave them intact if they are idols?

[*asiya*]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

Why do you have to be so dramatic?

Its really annoying when people say things like that.

I don't feel threatened by a pyramid or sphinx, and I certainly won't start worshipping them. They are in Muslim lands where people are Muslims and don't worship idols.

The response from IslamQA was a typical response, and for me just not relevant to anything.

Social matters too, these people are so disconnected. Didn't they say something like you can't have friends that are not Muslims? lol

go pick up your Quran and look up 5.51, 5.80, 3.28, 3.18 and see what Allah ta ala says about that.

[AX1300]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

I don't want to argue. Maybe continue this another time.

Forgive me if i came across rude or aggressive.

Salaam.

[Perseveranze]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

I do, and billions of other people also.

Love to know who those "billions" are? I think destroying a history of ignorance is doing the world a favour. There's plenty of ignorance in the world today if they want to learn something of.

[Massilia]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

interesting point - what did previous and more pious islamic nations think of such relics and why did they leave them intact if they are idols?

1. They used some rocks from a few monuments to build their own structures
2. A Muslim tried to read hieroglyphs in early Middle-Ages but he failed, and at the end, it was just forgotten and people just had a life like we do today.

Love to know who those "billions" are? I think destroying a history of ignorance is doing the world a favour. There's plenty of ignorance in the world today if they want to learn something of.

Hum im part of the billion or at least of the million interested and considering im majoring in History i'll appreciate my "tools" to be left where there are.

[luisa]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

I think destroying a history of ignorance is doing the world a favour.

so, go on and bomb pyramids, destroy buddhas, down with the sphinx, whitewash paintings, disassemble mosaics, break up statues...

what next ?

pathetic

[abu_fulan_fulan]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

it doesn't matter if the statue, idol or raised grave is worshipped now, it matters that it could be again at some point so destroy now so future generations dont fall into shirk.

and no we dont need to destroy history, but neither do we need statues and graves to remember our history, we can remember people were upon ignorance and disbelief and so wanting to protect future generations pass down this message of how they went astray.

I would advise those who don't see the wisdom in destroying statues and raised graves to look into how the people of the Prophet Nuh (as) went astray and fell into shirk and then you will understand the need for this.

[SILURES]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

it doesn't matter if the statue, idol or raised grave is worshipped now, it matters that it could be again at some point so destroy now so future generations dont fall into shirk.

and no we dont need to destroy history, but neither do we need statues and graves to remember our history, we can remember people were upon ignorance and disbelief and so wanting to protect future generations pass down this message of how they went astray.

I would advise those who don't see the wisdom in destroying statues and raised graves to look into how the people of the Prophet Nuh (as) went astray and fell into shirk and then you will understand the need for this.

but if you use the logic that they might in the future be worshiped (the pyramids never were worshiped i think) that could apply to anything couldnt it?

[Abdul-Curim]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

There are some simple-minded Muslms that would want anything not related to Islam to be razed to the ground or destroyed, like it would please God.

Muslims have ruled Egypt, Iraq, Jordan etc. for how long exactly? The Muslims back then (who were better than us) saw no reason to destroy the buildings/relics of civilisations that had come and gone. There is a lesson in that.

How weak must your faith be in order to feel threatened by a pyramid or a sphinx?

A person with a brain can take lessons from such pieces of history. They tell a story, and connect us to the past.

With the kind of technology the world possessed a few centuries ago , was it practical to demolish the pyramids ?

[SILURES]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

With the kind of technology the world possessed a few centuries ago , was it practical to demolish the pyramids ?

the tech they had a couple of centuries ago was probably better than the tech they had almost 4ooo odd years ago to build them though....;)

[Abdul-Curim]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

Why do you have to be so dramatic?

Its really annoying when people say things like that.

I don't feel threatened by a pyramid or sphinx, and I certainly won't start worshipping them. They are in Muslim lands where people are Muslims and don't worship idols.

The response from IslamQA was a typical response, and for me just not relevant to anything.

Social matters too, these people are so disconnected. Didn't they say something like you can't have friends that are not Muslims? lol

If those statues are not a place of worship for the Non-Muslim Dhimmis then what place do they have in a Muslim Land ?

The Buddhas of bamiyan were blown up as there were no Buddhists anywhere in Afghanistan in a land which was dominated by Buddhists before the arrival of Muslims .

[Abdul-Curim]

Re: Bikinis bug Ikhwan.

the tech they had a couple of centuries ago was probably better than the tech they had almost 4ooo odd years ago to build them though....;)

Yet People are still puzzled about how they were built 3500-4000 years ago .

I wouldnt be surprised that Egypt a superpower in those days and a Land of Magic and Jinns may have used those means .

Allahualam .