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    Salamu allikom
    So i'm a muslim convert of just over 2 months alhamdulelah, and since its coming up to summer i need some advice from sisters about swimwear! I'm aware about burkini's, mycozzie's etc... but there not cheap at all! I'm going on holiday in under 5 months time so i need to figure something out! What do you wear for swimming? if you havent purchased a branded costume already i mean? are there any cheaper options??

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    waaliakum asslaam
    sorry i m giving u advice as i m nt sister :)
    1st congratulations by choosig the right way.. for ladies swiming is totally haram on public places bcoz women is not allowed to show off her body .. u have to wear hijab nd cover the full body whenever you will go to public place..
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    • #3
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      walaykum salam. congrats on your conversion to Islam :)

      Actually, going swimming is not appropriate for Muslim men and women. This is because in public swimming pools there is free mixing between men & women, and because people show their awrah (navel to knees for men, everything for women) which is haram. So, even if YOU cover yourself properly, it's still not okay because other people will be half naked there..

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      • #4
        Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

        :wswrwb:

        Well, she can go to a women only swimming pool if she's absolutely sure that no men will be around, at the minimum her satr (from navel to the knee) is completely covered, and there are no haram activity in that place (i.e. music). And, if you go to a women only swimming pool, then you can lax your dresscode.
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          Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

          Walaikum Assalaam ..
          all praises are for Allah, Who has guided you to the right path, congrtz alot sister:)

          Women swimming in Islam

          swimming is not haram if its for some health benefit being prescribed by Dr, with keeping modesty limits in mind..yes its Totally Haram without any doubt in Out door pools.
          like we have, out door and indoor pools in health clubs in muslim countries, In foreign countries--i am not aware of, sorry.
          like we have here, health/sports club
          with female seperate sections.. I am sure sis you would be a member of Ladies health club...? if you are then, if you can manage to cover your body well then you can go for long loose modest dress but i must say, it would be better more not to join even the indoor ladies pool,

          If you can't leave that at sudden then, YOU must keep this in mind sis as Haya, Modesty is very important for Girls..
          Avoid walking or playing around with a bathing suit On, on pool sides, as it gradually eliminates the shame-which is a part of Faith.

          Allah knows the best, may HE makes it easy for you, ameen :)
          Last edited by shan e Aisha; 10-03-11, 09:24 PM.
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          • #6
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            isnt swimming a sunnah?

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            • #7
              Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

              Alhamdulillah you have been guided to islam sister :love:

              Originally posted by .mirror. View Post
              :wswrwb:

              Well, she can go to a women only swimming pool if she's absolutely sure that no men will be around, at the minimum her satr (from navel to the knee) is completely covered, and there are no haram activity in that place (i.e. music). And, if you go to a women only swimming pool, then you can lax your dresscode.
              brother, even in front of other women a woman cannot wear a swimming costume, she must cover herself and dress modestly in front of other women, so that only her hair neck, forearms, and shins are showing.

              sister you cannnot swim in public in a "burkini" hijab must cover your body shape, not only your skin. and as said above a beach or anywhere touristy is not a place for a muslim ( man or woman) as there will be naked people walking around there. have alook at the link sister shan e aisha posted, it explains the fact well.

              may Allah guide u and keep u on the straight path amin.
              Last edited by *asiya*; 10-03-11, 09:46 PM.
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              The Prophet :saw: said:

              "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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              • #8
                Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                You can just wear a normal swimming costume with loose thin trousers/ top over the top of it?

                Do remmeber that you may only swim in a female only environment, and also be wary of CCTV footage being filmed on these premises.
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                • #9
                  Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                  Unless you have access to a women-only pool, or can rent a private one, I wouldn't recommend going swimming at all.

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                    Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                    Wearing revealing and short clothes, and the limits of women’s ‘awrah in front of other women

                    It is becoming common for some women to wear short and tight clothes which show off their charms and which may be sleeveless or show the chest or back, so that the woman is virtually naked.

                    When we try to advise them, they say that they only wear these clothes in front of other women, and that the ‘awrah of a woman in front of other women is the area from the navel to the knee.

                    What is the ruling of Islam, in your opinion, with evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah, on this matter and on wearing these kind of clothes in front of mahrams? May Allaah reward you with good on behalf of the Muslims, men and women, and make your reward great.


                    Praise be to Allaah.

                    In response to this it might be said that it is reported in a saheeh hadeeth that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

                    “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen yet. People with whips like the tails of cattle, with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance may be detected from such and such a distance.”

                    The scholars interpret “clothed yet naked” as referring to women who wear tight clothes or light clothing that does not cover what is beneath it, or short clothes. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) mentioned that what women wore inside their houses at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) covered everything from the heel of the foot up to the palm of the hand. All of this was covered when they were inside the house, and when they went out to the market, it was known that the women of the Sahaabah used to wear loose garments which would drag along the ground. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) allowed them to let it trail up to a cubit, but no more than that.


                    With regards to the doubts that some women have, concerning the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let no woman look at the ‘awrah of another woman and let no man look at the ‘awrah of another man; the ‘awrah of a woman in front of another woman is from the navel to the knee”, which they interpret as indicating that women may wear short clothes – the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that it is sufficient for women’s clothing to cover the area from the navel to the knee, so this cannot be used as evidence.


                    What he did say was that no woman should look at the ‘awrah of another woman, so he forbade them to look, because the ‘awrah of the woman who is wearing loose clothing may sometimes be exposed when answering the call of nature or for some other reason, so the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade women to look at one another’s ‘awrahs.

                    Because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that no man should look at the ‘awrah of another man, does this means that the Sahaabah wore izaars (waist wrappers) or trousers only between the navel and the knee? Does anyone think that women can go to meet other women wearing nothing but clothes that cover her from the navel to the knee? No one would say such a thing. That only happens among the kaafir women.

                    The confusion that some women feel has no basis; what some women understand from this hadeeth is not correct. The meaning of the hadeeth is clear. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that women's clothing should cover only the area between the navel and the knee. Women have to fear Allaah and feel that sense of modesty which is part of the nature of women and which is part of faith, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Modesty is a branch of faith.” And it is said in the proverbial sense, “more shy than the virgin in her seclusion.” It was not even known among the women of the jaahiliyyah to cover only the area from the navel to the knee, such a thing was not known among either women or men; do these women want the Muslim women to be even worse in appearance than the women of the jaahiliyyah?

                    In conclusion: the clothing is one thing and looking at the ‘awrah is another thing. With regard to clothing and what a woman wears in front of other women, it is prescribed for her to cover everything from the palm of the hand to the heel of the foot, but if a woman needs to pull up her dress in order to do some work etc., she may pull it up to her knees, and if she needs to roll up her sleeves to the upper arms she may do that too, if she only does it as much as is necessary. But if this is the way she usually dresses, then that is not allowed. The hadeeth does not indicate this under any circumstances at all, hence it addresses the one who is looking, not the one who is looked at. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not referring to how women should dress; all he was referring to was the ‘awrah. He did not say that women’s dress may cover only the area between the navel and the knee, as these women mistakenly think.

                    With regard to mahrams, they may see as much as another woman may see, i.e., it is permissible for a woman to uncover in front of a mahram what she uncovers in front of other women, so she may uncover her head, neck, feet, hands, forearms, calves, etc, but she should not wear short clothes.

                    From the Fatwas of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih ibn ‘Uthaymeen for al-Daw’ah magazine, issue # 1765, page 55
                    "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                    The Prophet :saw: said:

                    "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

                    muslim

                    Narrated 'Abdullah:

                    The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                    "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                    By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                    [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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                    • #11
                      Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                      at achool the muslim girls used to swim with t shirts and trousers

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                      • #12
                        Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                        Originally posted by naila-k View Post
                        at achool the muslim girls used to swim with t shirts and trousers
                        yeh but ur body parts should not b revealed...

                        wait.. shirt n trouser is not women dress.. its normally used nd designed for boys..m i right??
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                        • #13
                          Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                          no you are not right, plenty of tshirts and trousers designed for women... and they baggy so dont reveal body parts, such as linen trousers etc and you can wear that while you swim, or 3/4 length trousers and t shirt, or a kameese

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                          • #14
                            Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                            sister i would not advise you to swim in public where both genders are present. but i would suggest them full body gears that had little skirt with it, if you are swimming among other Muslim sisters.
                            “This day I have perfected your religion for you,completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [5:3]"I have created the jinns and the humans solely to worship Me."[51:56]"a woman's heart should be lost in God, that a man needs to see him in order to find her"

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                              Re: Calling all sisters: Swim wear advice?!

                              Originally posted by *asiya* View Post
                              brother, even in front of other women a woman cannot wear a swimming costume, she must cover herself and dress modestly in front of other women, so that only her hair neck, forearms, and shins are showing.

                              sister you cannnot swim in public in a "burkini" hijab must cover your body shape, not only your skin. and as said above a beach or anywhere touristy is not a place for a muslim ( man or woman) as there will be naked people walking around there. have alook at the link sister shan e aisha posted, it explains the fact well.
                              Yeah, I see what you're saying is correct. The swimming costume should be modest. Covering parts like the torso and up to the knee should be done.

                              I read this on IslamQA that they can swim as long as they can cover the shape of the awrah.

                              Praise be to Allaah.

                              Anything that could be a source of temptation among women must be prevented. So their swimming in clothes that do not cover their ‘awrah (parts of the body which must be covered) properly because they stick to the body is something that is not allowed. If they swim in clothes that cover them, in a place far from the gaze of men, and cover themselves as soon as they come out of the water so that others will not see them in clothes that show the shape or colour of their ‘awrah, then there is nothing wrong with this so long as they adhere to the shar’i conditions. And Allaah knows best.
                              http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/1075

                              :jkk: for the Dua'a.
                              Last edited by .mirror.; 10-03-11, 11:49 PM.
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