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  • F_R
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    Anybody got online link to Ibn Katheers volume 7 tafseer please?

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  • faatima18
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    Originally posted by Hamnah View Post
    Regarding some of the comments about reciting Qur'an incorrectly.. it boils my blood when people teach and they can't recite the makhaarij properly. Okay maybe sifaat we may slip up on here and there but not makhraj.

    I wish I had a voice in my community.. but I don't, otherwise I would stop all women teaching Qur'an until they can properly recite themselves. There's nothing wrong in reciting to a shaykh, he doesn't have to see our faces. That's something else that annoys me big time, all these women are getting ijazah to teach but no shaykh has listened to them recite. (Unless they have a brother or dad who can recite well) They get tested by women who themselves can't articulate Qur'an and the shaykh or whoever is giving ijazah signs and it's done. I know this all may sound very weird to most people, but that's how it works here.

    Learning Qur'an is the first step, everyone wants to do these ilmiyyah courses and things but I realised after having jumped on the bandwagon, you will never be knowledgeable, until you memorise the book of Allah, this includes reciting it properly.
    i agree with all you said

    however i always thought women could not recite to men. I've heard this many times

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  • Ansaariyah
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    Originally posted by Hamnah View Post
    Regarding some of the comments about reciting Qur'an incorrectly.. it boils my blood when people teach and they can't recite the makhaarij properly. Okay maybe sifaat we may slip up on here and there but not makhraj.

    I wish I had a voice in my community.. but I don't, otherwise I would stop all women teaching Qur'an until they can properly recite themselves. There's nothing wrong in reciting to a shaykh, he doesn't have to see our faces. That's something else that annoys me big time, all these women are getting ijazah to teach but no shaykh has listened to them recite. (Unless they have a brother or dad who can recite well) They get tested by women who themselves can't articulate Qur'an and the shaykh or whoever is giving ijazah signs and it's done. I know this all may sound very weird to most people, but that's how it works here.

    Learning Qur'an is the first step, everyone wants to do these ilmiyyah courses and things but I realised after having jumped on the bandwagon, you will never be knowledgeable, until you memorise the book of Allah, this includes reciting it properly.
    I didn't know that's how its done? you mean ijazah in tajweed teaching or nazra??

    True he don't have to see our faces but subconsciously one ends up reciting in rhythm and that might fall under 'softening your tone'? wallaahu 'aalam, I remember Ustadh used to shout at us and make us read out loud in groups, no rhythmic flow, just plain reading and following his lead. May Allaah ta'ala hasten his release, ameen ya Rabb.
    Last edited by Ansaariyah; 10-08-13, 03:05 PM.

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  • Hamnah
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    Regarding some of the comments about reciting Qur'an incorrectly.. it boils my blood when people teach and they can't recite the makhaarij properly. Okay maybe sifaat we may slip up on here and there but not makhraj.

    I wish I had a voice in my community.. but I don't, otherwise I would stop all women teaching Qur'an until they can properly recite themselves. There's nothing wrong in reciting to a shaykh, he doesn't have to see our faces. That's something else that annoys me big time, all these women are getting ijazah to teach but no shaykh has listened to them recite. (Unless they have a brother or dad who can recite well) They get tested by women who themselves can't articulate Qur'an and the shaykh or whoever is giving ijazah signs and it's done. I know this all may sound very weird to most people, but that's how it works here.

    Learning Qur'an is the first step, everyone wants to do these ilmiyyah courses and things but I realised after having jumped on the bandwagon, you will never be knowledgeable, until you memorise the book of Allah, this includes reciting it properly.
    Last edited by Hamnah; 10-08-13, 12:26 PM.

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  • F_R
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    Frau TalkALot says;

    If you want it you can do it. Ask Allah!
    Last edited by F_R; 13-08-13, 03:58 PM.

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  • Muslim First
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    Seems like you Brothers and Sisters, have been encouraged at a young age to learn the Quran.

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  • F_R
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    Originally posted by faatima18 View Post
    i wouldn't teach unless I was given permission to do so by a teacher. the thought of someone learning a verse from me with a mistake (because I missed it or whatever) is quite scary.
    True say.

    Hope it's going well for you.

    I think the Duas of my teachers have been accepted alhamdulilah. They often say 'may Allah open your heart to it' and alhamdulilah lately the Quraan has been something new, like a new insight, a new understanding, a new sense of appreciation. It's not so passive as it used to be.

    It's true what Brother Nouman Ali Khan said about everytime you read the quran and the same suwar you will find a new life to it. I think now, finally, Allah has allowed me to get a taste of it as it's meant to be. Still got a long way but it's clear how there is no book or speech or anything like the Quraan. It is in no way from anyone other than the Creator Himself . It is clear to me now why the translations don't do justice and I don't even know much Arabic myself but there's nothing like the Quraan in its original form without a translation.
    Last edited by F_R; 10-08-13, 02:19 AM.

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  • faatima18
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    Originally posted by F_R View Post
    Would you guys recommend partaking in competitions like this for purposes of getting feedback/revision etc ?

    Also what do you have to say about teaching/helping others with the Quraan? As in, at what sort of level should an individual be before they help/teach others?
    i wouldn't teach unless I was given permission to do so by a teacher. the thought of someone learning a verse from me with a mistake (because I missed it or whatever) is quite scary.

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  • F_R
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    Lol ^ I applied last year with a friend but couldn't do it due to unforeseen circumstances. As if I'd be able to recite in front of people anyway. I only recite in front of those younger than me or really older than me, not even my mum or older siblings get to hear me recite (willingly) and if they happen to walk in then that's their luck (not that it's anything special like that at all). I'm pretty competitive tho but the shyness/awkwardness would ruin it for me.

    It was/is a thought and I'm considering it but highly doubt it for other reasons.

    Do they all recite in front of men? Aren't there any ladies?


    It's so scary subhanAllah the more you progress by the mercy and permission of Allah and I asked my Pappa to make dua for me. He didn't know and it slipped my mind to tell him and ask for his Duas. His reply made me cry, may Allah have mercy on all of our parents ameen.

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  • Bint_Hajj
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    Originally posted by F_R View Post
    Would you guys recommend partaking in competitions like this for purposes of getting feedback/revision etc ?
    I guess it depends on your personality and where you are in your hifz. I'm way too shy and not competitive at all. lol I'd probably hope to mess up in the first round so I could just sit back and cheer for everyone else. Maybe ask your Sheikha where she thinks you are at and if it would be good for you?

    Also what do you have to say about teaching/helping others with the Quraan? As in, at what sort of level should an individual be before they help/teach others?
    I was told after 5 ajza to start teaching(though I have no one to teach at the moment). You can start anyone with the basic of reading and tajweed. My Sheikha also said that teaching is one of the best ways to solidify what you've learned.

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  • F_R
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    Would you guys recommend partaking in competitions like this for purposes of getting feedback/revision etc ?

    Also what do you have to say about teaching/helping others with the Quraan? As in, at what sort of level should an individual be before they help/teach others?
    Last edited by F_R; 06-08-13, 05:11 AM.

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  • the_middle_road
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    Originally posted by AhlulQuran88 View Post
    Sometimes i honestly dont know the difference between a modern recitor and nasheed artist
    Maybe because nowadays some of them are both... -_-

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  • AhlulQuran88
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    In my opinion one of the reason why we dont have greats like the big 5 anymore is because people are chasing the voice. When shaykh mustafa ismail sh menshawi sh abdel basit sh mahmoud ali bana and sh husary perfected tajweed. They read the quran in a way that was beautiful and that could not be mistaken for music. Sometimes i honestly dont know the difference between a modern recitor and nasheed artist

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  • Abdullah Fatih
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    Originally posted by the_middle_road View Post
    The focus when you're starting out should be on perfecting tajweed, and al-Husari is the best for that. Also, Mishary recites with quite a melodic tune, and al-Husari less so. There's nothing wrong in reciting with a nice tune, it's something good and recommended, but it could distract from where the focus should be.
    Oh man, this is a problem for many.

    Some people are too into tryna sound like Tawfeeq As-Saaigh rather than perfecting their tajweed. I was just praying at a masjid for taraweeh, and young guys were made to lead. Okay, their voices were pretty nice, but subhanAllah, there were some serious blunders in their tajweed.

    Someone read in surat al kahf, :

    "Ith awwal fityatu illal kahfi

    the improperly placed shaddas took away from the meaning, and just didn't make sense..

    I mean, okay miss a few ikhfaas, that might be m3thoor, but seriously im talking lahn jaliyy. It takes away from your focus during salaah too.

    One said in faatiha, and faatiha should be down with every potential imam mind you..

    :Qayril maqdoobi 3laayhim..

    Where's the ghayn??

    In such cases, such people are not aloud to lead.

    Allahul Must'aan

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  • Abdullah Fatih
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    Originally posted by AhlulQuran88 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSXFZNg1hlQ

    For the Arabic speaking brothers and sisters and i will post more later when i get home inshalah. Some comments that i want to make regarding some questions in the meanwhile take benefit from our beloved shaykh middle road
    welcome back long lost member

    :)

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