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  • Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

    Here's something to think about as alot of people around the world do this....
    (hopefully when they aren't fasting)


    Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'
    By Perminder Khatkar
    BBC Asian Network

    Shisha is an Arabic water-pipe in which fruit-scented tobacco is burnt
    Smoking a shisha pipe is as bad for people as smoking tobacco, the Department of Health and the Centre for Tobacco Control Research has found.

    People who smoke shisha, or herbal tobacco, can suffer from high carbon monoxide levels, its research revealed.

    It found one session of smoking shisha resulted in carbon monoxide levels at least four to five times higher than the amount produced by a cigarette.

    High levels of carbon monoxide can lead to brain damage and unconsciousness.

    Shisha is an Arabic water-pipe in which fruit-scented tobacco is burnt using coal, passed through an ornate water vessel and inhaled through a hose.

    Dr Hilary Wareing, director of the Centre for Tobacco Control Research, told the BBC's Asian Network she was shocked by the results of the research.

    "Our mouths opened at the level of harm - none of the tests we did showed anything other than shisha is hazardous to health."

    Paul Hooper, regional manager at the Department of Health, said the findings made the dangers of shisha a "major issue".

    He said many people regard shisha "as not even smoking".

    Misconception

    Shisha bars, which are typically decked out with low stools and soft cushions to create an inviting atmosphere, have become popular in cities across the UK, particularly London, Manchester and Birmingham.


    At the worst, shisha was 400 to 450 times more dangerous than having a cigarette

    Dr Hilary Wareing
    Centre for Tobacco Control Research
    An activity largely associated with Middle Eastern customers and a young crowd, there is a growing trend of themed shisha parties.

    Many people who go to "shisha evenings" think it is a safer alternative to smoking cigarettes.

    "You never see it in the news - 'that is terrible, don't do it' - there's no shock tactics like (there is with) cigarettes," said one young woman.

    "If my mum sees me smoking shisha, she isn't going to take it as seriously as if I was smoking cigarettes," said a British Pakistani man.

    It was this misconception - and finding dangerous levels of carbon monoxide in a pregnant woman who had stopped smoking tobacco, but continued to smoke shisha - which prompted the research.

    "We found one session of smoking shisha - that's 10 milligrams for 30 minutes - gave carbon monoxide levels that were at the lowest four and five times as high as having a cigarette," said Dr Wareing.

    "But at the worst, shisha was 400 to 450 times more dangerous than having a cigarette," she added.

    Informed choice

    Edgware Road is home to a large number of shisha cafes or hookah bars
    Shisha smokers in a cafe in Edgware Road, London, said the findings would make them think twice about smoking.

    "You know you can die from cigarettes, but you don't know you can die from shisha," said one.

    "I'm now going home to research it," said another.

    But not everyone is convinced.

    Akram, a 27-year-old who runs a restaurant and shisha bar in Birmingham, has his own views.

    "There is a health risk but it's all down to consumption and all the evidence I've seen is that smoking shisha is nothing like smoking even one cigarette," he said.

    He said he did not actually inhale shisha smoke.

    It is not just the level of carbon monoxide that is causing concern.

    Qasim Choudhory, a youth worker at the NHS Stop Smoking Service in Leicester, said sharing a shisha pipe could pass around infections.

    "There's a heightened risk of getting TB, herpes and infections like that," she said.

    "Now you know swine flu is on the top of the agenda right now - there's no kind of direct correlation, but at time when we're up on our hygiene, it's not the best type of activity to be taking part in."

    Dr Wareing said more research on exactly how dangerous shisha was needed to be conducted to enable people to make an informed choice.

    Paul Hooper said the department was working hard at "how best to get the message - that it is dangerous - across to the consumer".

    "But how do you label the tobacco and the shisha pipe? It's not as simple as labelling a packet of cigarettes," he added.

    The Trouble with Hubble-Bubble will be broadcast on the BBC's Asian Network at 1800 BST on Monday 24 August 2009.

  • #2
    Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

    good! i keep telling people i know that smoke shisha that it is more harmful than cigarettes...but they ain't having none of it, so hah! shoulda listened to me

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    • #3
      Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

      Not that surprising...people have been saying this for a while now.
      ...sermons from this minbar come with tongue planted quite firmly in cheek.


      "Let your boat of life be light, packed with only what you need -
      a homely home and simple pleasures, one or two friends,
      worth the name, someone to love and someone to love you,
      a cat, a dog, and a pipe or two, enough to eat and enough to wear,
      and a little more than enough to drink; for thirst is a dangerous thing."

      -- Jerome K. Jerome
      (Three Men in a Boat)

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      • #4
        Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

        i have my own pipe!

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        • #5
          Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

          smoking tobacco through a shisha is as harmful as smoking it through a cigarette

          surprise surpise!!!!!!!

          most modern fatwas on smoking (regardless whether through a shisha or cigarette or whatever) say that it's haram on the basis of the harm done to the body (risk of cancer, emphasema etc) - many of the fatwas that say it's halal were done before doctors were fully aware of the dangers of it, and the ruling was on the basis that it does not intoxicate like alcohol, cannabis etc does. The potential to harm the human body was not known about, therefore not considered in those fatwas. The modern fatwas generally consider this and declare it is haram on that basis.
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          • #6
            Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

            sometimes they say one cig is same as 100 shishas and sometimes 100 cigs are same as one shiha. when they say Shisha do they consider the tobacco? And when they say cigarette are they talking about Silkcut Ultra or the Red Marlboro's?
            "The objective behind Shari'ah is to liberate individuals from his desires in order to be a true Abd (slave) of Allah and that is the legitimate Maslaha... Violating the Shari'ah under the pretext of following Maqasid al-Shari'ah is like the one who cares about the spirit without the body and since the body without the spirit is useless therefore the spirit without the body is useless too." ~ Imam Shatibi - The greatest intellectual founder of Maqasid al-Shari'ah

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            • #7
              I don't think anyone is under the illusion that sheesha is good for them. However it doesn't smell and taste no way near as bad as cigarettes. Cigarettes makes your hands and fingers yellow, and your teeth yellow. Sheesha doesn't do anything like that.

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              • #8
                Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

                Originally posted by InsaneBro View Post
                I don't think anyone is under the illusion that sheesha is good for them. However it doesn't smell and taste no way near as bad as cigarettes. Cigarettes makes your hands and fingers yellow, and your teeth yellow. Sheesha doesn't do anything like that.
                No, instead it deprives your brain of oxygen and converts haemoglobin into the useless carboxyhaemoglobin more so than cigarettes.

                I'd rather have yellow fingers than an oxygen starved brain.
                ...sermons from this minbar come with tongue planted quite firmly in cheek.


                "Let your boat of life be light, packed with only what you need -
                a homely home and simple pleasures, one or two friends,
                worth the name, someone to love and someone to love you,
                a cat, a dog, and a pipe or two, enough to eat and enough to wear,
                and a little more than enough to drink; for thirst is a dangerous thing."

                -- Jerome K. Jerome
                (Three Men in a Boat)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joha View Post
                  No, instead it deprives your brain of oxygen and converts haemoglobin into the useless carboxyhaemoglobin more so than cigarettes. I'd rather have yellow fingers than an oxygen starved brain.
                  That's a fair point. Personally I don't like yellow fingers.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

                    i keep reading the title of this thread as "Shias 'as harmful as cigarettes'". lol
                    ...and InshAllah i remind myself before i remind others.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Shisha 'as harmful as cigarettes'

                      Originally posted by Joha View Post
                      No, instead it deprives your brain of oxygen and converts haemoglobin into the useless carboxyhaemoglobin more so than cigarettes.

                      I'd rather have yellow fingers than an oxygen starved brain.
                      :rotfl:
                      "The objective behind Shari'ah is to liberate individuals from his desires in order to be a true Abd (slave) of Allah and that is the legitimate Maslaha... Violating the Shari'ah under the pretext of following Maqasid al-Shari'ah is like the one who cares about the spirit without the body and since the body without the spirit is useless therefore the spirit without the body is useless too." ~ Imam Shatibi - The greatest intellectual founder of Maqasid al-Shari'ah

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