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  • I want a cat.

    Assalam alaikum,

    I want a long-haired cat (like a Persian cat), but those kind of cats are often expensive and can only be bought. I have read that buying and selling of cats is haraam...and this is also Shaykh Munajjid's opinion. The majority opinion is that the buying and selling of cats is permissible, but I would like more information for that opinion. If anyone has it please post it up so I can get evidence for both sides.

    JazakAllah khair.
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    Re: I want a cat.

    Anyone?
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    • #3
      Re: I want a cat.

      Ive heard the same opinion buying n selling them is haraam.. so i would avoid it?
      so u need to try n find someone giving away kittens, or their cat...
      u can get from those animal rescue type people, altho dno if u cn choose the specification like that. also i think they come and "assess" ur home to see if its suitable :S
      how come u need that specific kinda cat? or is it just preference?
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        Re: I want a cat.

        All cats are gawjusss :inlove:
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          Re: I want a cat.

          :salams:

          The buying and selling of cats is forbidden.

          I found this fatwa for you...

          The view that it is haraam to sell cats is the more correct view, because it is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade that, and there is nothing to suggest the contrary.
          Muslim (1569) narrated that Abu’l-Zubayr said: I asked Jaabir about the price of dogs and cats. He said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us not to do that (i.e., sell them).
          Abu Dawood (3479) and al-Tirmidhi (1279) narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade the price of dogs and cats. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
          Some scholars are of the view that these ahaadeeth are da’eef (weak), but their view is to be rejected.
          Al-Nawawi said in al-Majmoo’ (9/269): As for what as al-Khattaabi and Ibn al-Mundhir said about the hadeeth being weak, this is a mistake on their part, because the hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim has a saheeh isnaad. End quote.
          Al-Shawkaani said in Nayl al-Awtaar (6/227), refuting the majority who interpret the prohibition in the hadeeth as meaning that it is makrooh and that selling cats is not a noble attitude or sign of chivalry: It is obvious that this is understanding the prohibition in a way that is contrary to its true meaning for no reason. End quote.
          Al-Bayhaqi said in al-Sunan (6/18), also refuting the majority: Some scholars have interpreted it as referring to cats that are wild and cannot be caught. Some claim that this applied at the beginning of Islam when cats were ruled to be naajis (impure), but when it was ruled that their leftover food and water are taahir (pure), it became permissible to sell them. But there is no clear evidence for either of these two views. End quote.
          Ibn al-Qayyim stated that it is definitely haraam to sell them in Zaad al-Ma’aad (5/773) where he said: This was stated in a ruling (fatwa) by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) and it is the view of Tawoos, Mujaahid, Jaabir ibn Zayd and all the Zaahiri scholars, and it is one of the two views narrated from Ahmad. This is the correct view, because the ahaadeeth which state that are saheeh, and there is no evidence to the contrary, so this is the view that must be adopted. End quote.
          Ibn al-Mundhir said: If it is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade selling them, then such sales are invalid, otherwise they are permissible. End quote from al-Majmoo’, 9/269
          And it has been proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade it, as in the hadeeth quoted above from Saheeh Muslim.
          It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 13/37:
          It is not permissible to sell cats, monkeys or dogs, or any other carnivores that have fangs, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade that and discouraged it, and because it is a waste of money, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade wasting money.
          And Allaah knows best.

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            Re: I want a cat.

            Originally posted by Umm_Hanzalah View Post
            Assalam alaikum,

            I want a long-haired cat (like a Persian cat), but those kind of cats are often expensive and can only be bought. I have read that buying and selling of cats is haraam...and this is also Shaykh Munajjid's opinion. The majority opinion is that the buying and selling of cats is permissible, but I would like more information for that opinion. If anyone has it please post it up so I can get evidence for both sides.

            JazakAllah khair.
            :wswrwb: yep id say go to an animal shelter and get one insha Allah for free, invest in a good hoover if u get a long haired cat :p i have to hoover the stairs twice a day sometimes because of the cat hair ( short haired ones can moult just as much though, and it seems white haired ones are the worst, dont ask me why.. ) Long haired breeds also take a lot of grooming too, otherwise they get mats and clumps in their fur, which would have to be shaved out if it gets too matted, and u also might have to bath it sometimes if it goes outside. other than that fantastic pets alhamdulillah.
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              Re: I want a cat.

              I agree go to an animal shelter, adopt a neglected/abandoned cat and give it a lovling home.... just think how much reward you'll get from that inshaAllah :love:

              wheras if you buy an animal from a breeder - yes there are responsible breeders out there of course!!! - but there are unscrupulous ones too that separate babies from their mummies at too young an age, that keep their animals in bad condition, and some pedigree animals actually can get quite bad genetic diseases if they are not bred really carefully. Unscrupulous breeders don't bother with that.
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                Re: I want a cat.

                Originally posted by dhakiyya View Post
                but there are unscrupulous ones too that separate babies from their mummies at too young an age, that keep their animals in bad condition, and some pedigree animals actually can get quite bad genetic diseases if they are not bred really carefully. Unscrupulous breeders don't bother with that.
                Yeah I agree. I think it's a bad idea to get a kitten under 8 weeks old as that's a bit too early to separate the baby from the mother- even though kittens are tiny and gorgeous. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there ready to give away their cats. One of my pupils has a very frisky female who's already been pregnant a couple of times so they had to give the kittens away.
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                  Re: I want a cat.

                  I do too.

                  My siblings have allergies, so I'm waiting until I move out!

                  The shelter seems like a good place to start mashaAllaah, since buying and selling is haraam, or you can ask family and friends if they'd like to give their lil ones away (no not their kids) :D
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                  • #10
                    Re: I want a cat.

                    i have two. anyone want em?

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                      Re: I want a cat.

                      Get a black cat
                      The number one reason you should adopt a black cat is because they are less likely to get adopted. I don't know the reason why

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                      • #12
                        Re: I want a cat.

                        Our cats were all strays, or abandoned kittens from the pound. I've never paid for a cat or dog in my life. There are so many out there who need you, just as much as you need them.

                        :love:

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                        • #13
                          Re: I want a cat.

                          Originally posted by Tahiyah View Post
                          i have two. anyone want em?
                          Yes, but in Florida? *Faints*
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                          • #14
                            Re: I want a cat.

                            I am allergic to alot of animals, but I still have them. I was allergic to our hamsters, my budgies and now our kitty, but it doesn't stop me :masha: lol
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                              Re: I want a cat.

                              i rescued my cat :)

                              Try the RSPCA or other rescue places. Also most pet shops have like notice boards inside or outside and some they have signs where people are just giving away cats and kitties.

                              I love my cat so much and i would recommend anyone getting a cat as long as you have the right environment for it :P

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