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  • Women more of a fitnah than men?

    :salams

    I know that there is no way of determining such things but I was curious as to what you guys think about this.
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    Women are more of a fitnah for men than men are for women.
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    Men are more of a fitnah for women than women are for men.
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    It's the same
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    "And thus have We willed you to be a community of the middle way."
    (al-Baqarah: 143)

    Allahumma innaa na'udhu bika min an nushrika bika shai-an na'lamuh; wa nastaghfiruka limaa laa na'lam.

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    Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

    I remember when I first heard this I was like No way!

    But then I thought yeah it's true... in my opinion I think it is. Not just from appearance i.e. the way they dress look etc, but voice and even demenour girls tend to me more louder than guys and therefore more noticeable.

    Also being a girl I think girls don't really pay attention to someone (i.e. a guy) unless they like them/are attracted to them. But some men subhanAllah I've seen this with kaffir men they stare at any and every woman that walks by! It's like they are drawn to them or something Alhamdulilah I haven't seen practising muslim men do this, in fact they don't too look the opposite way alhamdulilah!

    I do think men are a fitnah for women too maybe even almost nearly the same level, but girls don't/can't do anthing about it?

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    • #3
      Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

      Men are attracted to anything that moves and doesn't move.


      Women however are picky.



      So I guess your little theory is correct.



      This however is no justification for men to take advantage of this matter and force women to stay at home 24/7. :up:
      Give me a clear vision, that I may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless I stand for something, I will fall for anything.

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      • #4
        Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

        Me personally? Anyone can be a fitna in their own little ways - I think it's meaningless to talk about who is more of a 'fitnah' than the other. Not least because I have yet to see someone give a rigorous definition of fitnah.

        For instance - a quick look at the history of the last two thousand years will show you that it was men who were behind the majority of human deaths - mostly traceable to power 'maniacism'.

        If we're speaking of fitnah - as in sexually:

        A rather cursory look at modern day advertising (etc) will show you that women, as objects, have been used to get what people want from men. (A fitnah)...But actually if you dig deeper you'll find that the people behind these 'campaigns' tend to be men, women just end up being used.

        So again - who's to blame? Is it the women with their power to enchant, or is it men with their weakness for women?

        I'd go for both.
        ...sermons from this minbar come with tongue planted quite firmly in cheek.


        "Let your boat of life be light, packed with only what you need -
        a homely home and simple pleasures, one or two friends,
        worth the name, someone to love and someone to love you,
        a cat, a dog, and a pipe or two, enough to eat and enough to wear,
        and a little more than enough to drink; for thirst is a dangerous thing."

        -- Jerome K. Jerome
        (Three Men in a Boat)

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        • #5
          Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

          Originally posted by Kubs View Post
          Men are attracted to anything that moves.


          Women however are picky.



          So I guess your little theory is correct.



          This however is no justification for men to take advantage of this matter and force women to stay at home 24/7. :up:

          I don't think it's a theory it's a hadith isn't it? I'm sure i've heard it

          Lool at ur response well that was kind of my answer but worded differently lol. But obviously everyone is different.

          I don't think it's a blambeable thing that would be stupid, I think it's just the way we have been created.

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          • #6
            Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

            Yeah, women are more fitnah. Sunrise, you know what? I was listening to a lecture yesterday and it mentioned it, but I've forgotten it.

            But not in a nasty way, I'm a female, and you know I agree with Kubs and sunrise, I think it's just the way we've been created.

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            • #7
              Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

              Originally posted by Joha View Post
              If we're speaking of fitnah - as in sexually:
              Yes, that kind of fitnah.
              "And thus have We willed you to be a community of the middle way."
              (al-Baqarah: 143)

              Allahumma innaa na'udhu bika min an nushrika bika shai-an na'lamuh; wa nastaghfiruka limaa laa na'lam.

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              • #8
                Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                Originally posted by sunrise View Post
                I don't think it's a theory it's a hadith isn't it? I'm sure i've heard it .
                ''I am not leaving behind me any fitnah that is more harmful to men than women "


                Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
                Give me a clear vision, that I may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless I stand for something, I will fall for anything.

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                • #9
                  Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                  Allah made women attractive.

                  Without going into any further analysis of this notion, we can all understand what this entails. Everything about a woman is attractive to a man....generally. Hence, Muslim women are told to cover themselves and preserve their modesty.

                  But the women of the Kuffar ...well need I say more.....walking talking fitnahs all around us, and to some extent even some of our modern day muslim sisters can fall easily into this trap.

                  Women, my thier nature can lead to a variety of different fitnahs, in ones home, family, community and society at large, it we give into our nafs.

                  so yes you are right that women are the greater fitnah...but it takes two to tango ..................

                  And we Muslims women should try hardder to emulate the examples of the great Muslim women and Ummahatul Mu'mineen that have passed.
                  وَالْعَصْرِ

                  إِنَّ الْإِنسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ

                  إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ

                  "If Allah (swt) only sent this Surah to us, for the guidance of Mankind, this will be enough for us” - Imam Shaafi'ee r.a.

                  "Yeh dunya daar e faani hain, Tum apna dil mat lagaon, Ganimat samaj zinadagee ki bahar, aana na hoga, yahaa baar baar......"

                  Khanqah Habibiyah

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                  • #10
                    Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                    This world is fresh and sweet, and Allaah has appointed you over it, so see how you will do. Fear this world and fear women, for the first fitnah faced by the Children of Israel had to do with women.” Narrated by Muslim

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                    • #11
                      Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                      Originally posted by revert-haan ji View Post
                      This world is fresh and sweet, and Allaah has appointed you over it, so see how you will do. Fear this world and fear women, for the first fitnah faced by the Children of Israel had to do with women.” Narrated by Muslim
                      :jkk:
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                      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                      – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                        i sure i heard of a hadith that "women are the nets of shaytan"... or something along those lines, not sure.
                        "For those who realise that everything is from Allah, everything is the same."
                        ~ Jalaluddin al-Rumi

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                        • #13
                          Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                          LOL this is turning into a 'women bashing thread'.




                          Women are evil. Stay away from them.....staaaaay awaaaaaaay! :evilb:
                          Give me a clear vision, that I may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless I stand for something, I will fall for anything.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                            Originally posted by ajnabee View Post
                            i sure i heard of a hadith that "women are the nets of shaytan"... or something along those lines, not sure.
                            :salams ajnabe :d

                            umm yeh, have a read of the commentary:

                            'Women are the snares of Satan (Razin).

                            [A] This is confirmed by another hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari and Muslim in which the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "I have not left behind me any trial (fitna) more hamrful to men than women." The essence of the narration is that Satan often employs women as a lure for men, time and time again, leading to the committal of sinful acts. However, this is not to say that women are inherently evil, or that they are the sole cause of men's sins, or that men have been absolved from the evil prevalent in society. Rather, the narration alludes to the natural attraction men possess for women, by which Satan lures them into sin. This is why men have been commanded to lower their gazes and why women have been commanded to abide by a modest dress code. These are safety measures for both sexes-if a man does not lower his gaze, the modest dress of women will prevent him from realizing any of his sinful behaviour, and vice versa. The use of women as snares is an undeniable fact that can be observed today in, among otherplaces, the advertising industry. Of course, men who use women for commercial gain-as stewerdesses, models, pornographers, and prostitutes, for instance-are as accursed, perhaps even more than the women they exploit. People who clamor about women's abuse and strive to eradicate it ought to turn their attention to this degradation of women, which has undoubtlessly led to the objectification of women and high incidences of sexual harassment, domestic assult, and other crimes related to women's abuse. And to Allah is our complaint."
                            (Provisions for the seekers - Comprehensive sayings, pg33)
                            من صمت نجا

                            He who keeps silent saves himself (Tirmidhi, Ahmad).

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                            • #15
                              Re: Women more of a fitnah than men?

                              there will be more women in the fire of hell; women CAN be more of a fitnah.

                              since im a sister myself, as are quite a few who replied in this thread, i don't think its women bashing.
                              The enforcement of Muslim Brotherhood is the greatest social ideal of Islam. On it was based the Prophet's (SAW) sermon on his last pilgrimage, and Islam cannot be completely realized until this ideal is achieved. '
                              (Shaikh Maulana Muhammad Yusuf)
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