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  • #46
    Re: Homosexuality.

    Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    what is with the love of sodomites recently?

    what is there that is so attractive about the anal cavity that every week we have to discuss poop-bangers?



    poop bangers :rofl1:
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    • #47
      Re: Homosexuality.

      never, if you are muslim, please find it and post it for us
      .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
      نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
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      • #48
        Re: Homosexuality.

        Originally posted by Lefthook View Post
        Is discussion of homosexuality forbidden in Islam?
        Discussion of such things isn't forbidden. If a non-Muslim wants to know the Islamic stance on something then theres no wrong in Muslims informing you of the facts.
        Allah will ask on the Day of Judgment: “Where are those who loved each other for the sake of My glory? Today, on a day when there is no shade but Mine, I shall shade them with My shade.”(Muslim)

        "Zendagi Migzara..."

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        • #49
          Re: Homosexuality.

          Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
          never, if you are muslim, please find it and post it for us
          Well its just what I've heard. I shall look for it Inshallah.
          Allah will ask on the Day of Judgment: “Where are those who loved each other for the sake of My glory? Today, on a day when there is no shade but Mine, I shall shade them with My shade.”(Muslim)

          "Zendagi Migzara..."

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          • #50
            Re: Homosexuality.

            This should help Inshallah:

            Why does Islam forbid lesbianism and homosexuality?

            Could you please tell me that why is a homosexuality a sin in islam? I know it’s a great sin but my question is why? I haven't able to find the real reason why? So، if you could can you also tell me that what Allah has says in Quran or in hadith about it. Please let me know as soon as possible.

            Praise be to Allaah.

            The Muslim should not doubt, even for an instant, that what Allaah has prescribed is wise. He should know that there is great wisdom in what Allaah has commanded and what He has forbidden; it is the straight path and is the only way in which man can be safe and at peace, protecting his honour, his mind and his health, in accordance with the natural disposition (fitrah) with which Allaah has created man.

            Some heretics have tried to attack Islam and its rulings; they have denounced divorce and plural marriage and permitted alcohol. Those who look at the state of their societies will see the state of misery which those societies have reached.

            When they rejected divorce, murder took its place. When they rejected plural marriage, men started to take mistresses instead. When they allowed alcohol, all kinds of shameful and immoral actions became widespread.

            They (gays and lesbians) both go against the natural disposition (fitrah) which Allaah has created in mankind – and also in animals – whereby the male is inclined towards the female, and vice versa.
            Whoever goes against that goes against the natural disposition of mankind, the fitrah.

            The spread of homosexuality has caused man diseases which neither the east nor the west can deny exist because of them. Even if the only result of this perversion was AIDS – which attacks the immune system in humans – that would be enough.

            It also causes the breakup of the family and leads people to give up their work and study because they are preoccupied with these perversions.

            Since the prohibition has come from his Lord, the Muslim should not wait until medicine proves that harm befalls the one who does that which Allaah has forbidden. Rather he must believe firmly that Allaah only prescribes that which is good for people, and these modern discoveries should only increase his certainty and confidence in the greatness of Allaah’s wisdom.

            Ibn al-Qayyim said:

            Both of them – fornication and homosexuality – involve immorality that goes against the wisdom of Allaah’s creation and commandment. For homosexuality involves innumerable evil and harms, and the one to whom it is done would be better off being killed than having this done to him, because after that he will become so evil and so corrupt that there can be no hope of his being reformed, and all good is lost for him, and he will no longer feel any shame before Allaah or before His creation. The semen of the one who did that to him will act as a poison on his body and soul. The scholars differed as to whether the one to whom it is done will ever enter Paradise. There are two opinions which I heard Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrate.”

            (al-Jawaab al-Kaafi, p. 115).

            2. Lesbianism means one woman doing to another something like that which a man does to a woman. Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage. This was the action of the accursed people of the Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus of a male.

            What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:

            A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

            “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

            Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”

            [al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

            B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them We saved in the last hour of the night”

            [al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]

            C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”

            [al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]

            And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

            “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”

            [al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]

            D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious) knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”

            [al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]

            E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)

            Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’

            There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city. Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’

            So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.

            And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”

            [al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]

            These verses refer to the punishment that befell the people of Loot. With regard to the rulings on them:

            F – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning]:

            “And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both. And if they repent (promise Allaah that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allaah is Ever All-Forgiving (the One Who forgives and accepts repentance), (and He is) Most Merciful”

            [al-Nisa’ 4:16]

            Ibn Katheer said:

            “The words of Allaah ‘And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both’ mean, those who commit immoral actions, punish them both. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), Sa’eed ibn Jubayr and others said: By condemning them, shaming them and hitting them with shoes. This was the ruling until Allaah abrogated it and replaced it with whipping and stoning. ‘Ikrimah, ‘Ata, al-Hasan and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Katheer said: This was revealed concerning a man and woman who commit fornication. Al-Saddi said, it was revealed concerning young people before they get married. Mujaahid said: it was revealed concerning two men if they admit it bluntly; a hint is not sufficient – as if he was referring to homosexuality. And Allaah knows best.”

            (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 1/463).

            G – It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him): “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is nothing I fear for my ummah more than the deed of the people of Loot.’”

            (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1457; Ibn Maajah, 2563. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 1552).

            H – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “… cursed is the one who has intercourse with an animal, cursed is the one who does the action of the people of Loot.”

            (Narrated by Ahmad, 1878. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 5891).

            I – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever you find doing the deed of the people of Loot, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”

            (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1456; Abu Dawood, 4462; Ibn Maajah, 2561. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 6589).

            And Allaah knows best.
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            • #51
              Re: Homosexuality.

              Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
              imagine this lefty

              a man is given a plate of rotten, putrid, food, with flies and maggots

              and he is given a plate with well cooked delicious food

              what man would choose the rotted food? a gay man, and those who support and accept them are of them

              just as you would say to ummah.com if we espoused terrorism, supported terrorists, you would call this a terrorist website, and rightfully so, because when you support a people you are of them
              I'm sure Muhammad Atta would agree.

              so your support of gays makes you of them, as the wife of Lot was of them
              This is so narrow minded, uneducated and so you. So if I support Muslims in any way I am therefore one of them? Just because you see sense and don't hate people for being what they are doesn't make you one of them, just a decent human being. Oh what now more childish comments where you use insults? Grow up.

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              • #52
                Re: Homosexuality.

                in the eyes of kafirs, if you support muslims, then you are of them

                but in the eyes of muslims, your support does not constitute you being a muslim

                are you having really that hard a time of understanding that two men having a romantic affection for each other, where one enters into an intimate relationship whereby one enters the others anal cavity is despicable to any thinking person?
                .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                • #53
                  Re: Homosexuality.

                  You're grossing me out AbuM.
                  I know you're trying to make a point, but can't you just delete the thread and be done with it?
                  "I shall be telling this with a sigh. Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, And that has made all the difference."
                  ~ Robert Frost, The Road Not Taken

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                  • #54
                    Re: Homosexuality.

                    ME?

                    I AM GROSS?

                    why cant you love and accept me like you want to love and accept the sodomites?
                    .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                    نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                    دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                    • #55
                      Re: Homosexuality.

                      Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
                      ME?

                      I AM GROSS?

                      why cant you love and accept me like you want to love and accept the sodomites?
                      Sorry?
                      Have you confused me with someone else?
                      "I shall be telling this with a sigh. Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, And that has made all the difference."
                      ~ Robert Frost, The Road Not Taken

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                      • #56
                        Re: Homosexuality.

                        Can all those in dispute please put an end to it, as we all know from what is right to wrong thats islamically speaking, so no point debating it, its one thing getting your point across and another trying to infuriate someone, its pointless.
                        My opinion on the topic- advise the ones in gay/lesbian relationships on why it is wrong, if they listen all is then good, if they refuse to listen or don't take on board on what you said, keep away from them. U did your duty on telling them why its wrong, theres nothing more you can do except let Allah be the judge of them and do dua that Allah guide them to the right path

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                        • #57
                          Re: Homosexuality.

                          Some one close this thread about these Repugnant Vile beings aka Sodomites ...

                          there have been many threads and they know their Acts deserve punishment, May the Ghadab of Allah be Upon those who do not repent from this Sickening act,

                          Ameen.

                          regards.
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                          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                          – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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