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    Salaam Alikum.

    The Mosque I converted in had it's open house last Saturday (Dec 1) and I wasn't able to attend because I was 300 miles away at college. Anyways, the Mosque had an open house where they invited non-Muslims to come and see what we do, learn about Islam, etc.

    My friend who goes to the Mosque posted pictures on facebook and a link to a blog with the story. However, I read some comments and I was just sickened by what I read. I go to that Mosque and pray alongside those people and I'm good friends with all of them, and then I see people post comments like:

    "Probably doubles as a place to stash their bombs too."
    Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:35 AM

    "New Terrorist camp opens in Pasco county is how the headline should read. I am sure CAIR will be there telling thw world how bad the USA is"
    Posted by: Tony | November 30, 2007 at 01:02 PM

    Those ragheads in Sudan are calling for the execution of that teacher; Muslim are so savage, primitive, and Third World, that it's appalling. "I'm not gonna even pretend to be open minded about this abomination of a religion; enough is enough.
    Islam = Anti-Christ. It's a cancer to the free world."
    Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM

    http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingne...mosque-to.html





    I'm just so frustrated with people like this. :(
    Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up do we realize something was actually strange.

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    Re: Something disheartening

    I know it’s difficult, but just ignore people like them. :)

    Before I used to get into arguments with Islam bashing ignorant fools. Eventually it came to a point where I just couldn’t be bothered. Yes it does frustrate me but whatever you say would honestly make no difference. It goes in through one ear and comes out the other.
    Give me a clear vision, that I may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless I stand for something, I will fall for anything.

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    • #3
      Re: Something disheartening

      I know it's hard sometimes, but just try to ignore them akhi insha'Allah.

      You're wasting valuable mental energy stressing about a load of idiots.

      "We ask Allaah for a lasting faith, true certainty, and beneficial knowledge"


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      • #4
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        Some people are just ignorant and hate Islam. Best to just stay away from them and ignore them.
        وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِي عَنِّي فَإِنِّي قَرِيبٌ أُجِيبُ دَعْوَةَ الدَّاعِ إِذَا دَعَانِ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُواْ لِي وَلْيُؤْمِنُواْ بِي لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْشُدُونَ
        "And when My servants ask you (O Muhammad concerning Me, then answer them), I am indeed near (to them by My knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright."
        Surah al-Baqarah ayah 186
        [2:186]

        .:.
        .:. Perfer et Obdura : Dolor Hic Tibi Proderit Olim .:.
        Be patient and strong : someday this pain will be useful to you

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        • #5
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          Good. Don't argue with fools.
          I looooooooooooooooooooooooooove Saudi.:inlove::inlove::inlove: I truely dooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.:) :) :)

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          • #6
            Re: Something disheartening

            Originally posted by Pippin1376 View Post
            Some people are just ignorant and hate Islam. Best to just stay away from them and ignore them.
            I know and I do my best. However, I always read about stuff that happens to Muslims, etc, but I never think it would hit so close. These bigoted people are talking about my friends and myself (since I go to that Mosque). It just feels weird and unsettling.
            Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up do we realize something was actually strange.

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            • #7
              Re: Something disheartening

              :(

              theyre narrowminded. replying to such comments is just a waste of time and not even worth it. just ignore them.
              Screaming, But Will Never Be Heard

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              • #8
                Re: Something disheartening

                I think you need to tell your friend to change his facebook settings so that only people that Allah (swt) has blessed with at least a few braincells can comment on it. There were very similar ignorant responses to an article in the Daily Express the other day about the hospital beds of British Muslims. I've learned over time which forums and websites are more likely to be used for anti Islam vs pro Islam slanging matches and it really is best to avoid them completely.

                On the few occassions that I have had to deal with pathetic people like the ones you describe, I talk to them very sarcastically just to mock them and it can be fun at times. For example, back in the days of the old Ummah chatroom, a Kafira turned up and kept harrassing the sisters ranting on about how cruel the hijab was in her attempt to make the covered sisters feel bad or inadequate (most sisters responded saying "Astaghfirullah" and told her they like to cover to be seen as something other than a sex symbol etc etc). At one point the Kafira said something like "Oh and I love to go out and feel the wind in my hair" and I responded saying "BOO HOO, I'M SO JEALOUS!" :p after which everyone laughed at her and she prompty left:D

                If you think facebook is bad, paltalk is MUCH worse. Stick to frequenting places where you can interact with people (Muslim or not) in a more civilised manner. If not, then over time, you'll realise that arguments with ignorant people just keep going round in circles without making any headway, would be a waste of energy and a cause of unnecessary frustration.
                The Lyme Disease pandemic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5u73ME4sVU

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                • #9
                  Re: Something disheartening

                  So long as there is evil, there will always be shayateen who speak ill of Islam, they will try their best to defile Islam and turn people against it. They are not worth thinking about. So long as you live your life according to qur'an and sunnah, you will be an example of true islam for others to follow. Just ignore them, some people are just not worth the breath.


                  Peace
                  3:103 And hold fast, all together, unto the bond with God, and do not draw apart from one another. And remember the blessings which God has bestowed upon you: how, when you were enemies, He brought your hearts together, so that through His blessing you became brethren; and [how, when] you were on the brink of a fiery abyss. He saved you from it. In this way God makes clear His messages unto you, so that you might find guidance.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Something disheartening

                    Originally posted by Wolfn View Post
                    Salaam Alikum.

                    The Mosque I converted in had it's open house last Saturday (Dec 1) and I wasn't able to attend because I was 300 miles away at college. Anyways, the Mosque had an open house where they invited non-Muslims to come and see what we do, learn about Islam, etc.

                    My friend who goes to the Mosque posted pictures on facebook and a link to a blog with the story. However, I read some comments and I was just sickened by what I read. I go to that Mosque and pray alongside those people and I'm good friends with all of them, and then I see people post comments like:

                    "Probably doubles as a place to stash their bombs too."
                    Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:35 AM

                    "New Terrorist camp opens in Pasco county is how the headline should read. I am sure CAIR will be there telling thw world how bad the USA is"
                    Posted by: Tony | November 30, 2007 at 01:02 PM

                    Those ragheads in Sudan are calling for the execution of that teacher; Muslim are so savage, primitive, and Third World, that it's appalling. "I'm not gonna even pretend to be open minded about this abomination of a religion; enough is enough.
                    Islam = Anti-Christ. It's a cancer to the free world."
                    Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM

                    http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingne...mosque-to.html





                    I'm just so frustrated with people like this. :(

                    did you ever visit the big masjid on sligh in tampa akhi? we go there sometimes.

                    i am glad these comments bother you, if they didnt, then you wouldn't care much about defending your Deen. comments like these insha' Allah should motivate muslims to give dawah.

                    fyi..CAIR in tampa is the most patriotic organization...whoever made that comment has no clue to what cair actually is. they are an organization to teach muslims their rights in the usa, to be proud to be american muslims, they give dawah, support and contribute to local communities in many ways, defend muslims who have been victims of racism and hate crimes, they raise money for charity, etc. and they even have july 4th picnics.
                    Last edited by Tahiyah; 08-12-07, 09:17 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Something disheartening

                      Originally posted by Wolfn View Post
                      Salaam Alikum.

                      The Mosque I converted in had it's open house last Saturday (Dec 1) and I wasn't able to attend because I was 300 miles away at college. Anyways, the Mosque had an open house where they invited non-Muslims to come and see what we do, learn about Islam, etc.

                      My friend who goes to the Mosque posted pictures on facebook and a link to a blog with the story. However, I read some comments and I was just sickened by what I read. I go to that Mosque and pray alongside those people and I'm good friends with all of them, and then I see people post comments like:

                      "Probably doubles as a place to stash their bombs too."
                      Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:35 AM

                      "New Terrorist camp opens in Pasco county is how the headline should read. I am sure CAIR will be there telling thw world how bad the USA is"
                      Posted by: Tony | November 30, 2007 at 01:02 PM

                      Those ragheads in Sudan are calling for the execution of that teacher; Muslim are so savage, primitive, and Third World, that it's appalling. "I'm not gonna even pretend to be open minded about this abomination of a religion; enough is enough.
                      Islam = Anti-Christ. It's a cancer to the free world."
                      Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM

                      http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingne...mosque-to.html

                      I'm just so frustrated with people like this. :(
                      But aren't there Muslims who speak ill statement about other religions and followers of other religions ?

                      During my short stay here, I've read statements in this forum by Muslims which are no better than the statements you've read.

                      Just read what people like "Raziel" and "Abu Mus'ab" write, and you'll see even worse insults to Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc and to their religions.

                      Every lot has got it's share :)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Something disheartening

                        Originally posted by Wolfn View Post
                        Salaam Alikum.

                        The Mosque I converted in had it's open house last Saturday (Dec 1) and I wasn't able to attend because I was 300 miles away at college. Anyways, the Mosque had an open house where they invited non-Muslims to come and see what we do, learn about Islam, etc.

                        My friend who goes to the Mosque posted pictures on facebook and a link to a blog with the story. However, I read some comments and I was just sickened by what I read. I go to that Mosque and pray alongside those people and I'm good friends with all of them, and then I see people post comments like:

                        "Probably doubles as a place to stash their bombs too."
                        Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:35 AM

                        "New Terrorist camp opens in Pasco county is how the headline should read. I am sure CAIR will be there telling thw world how bad the USA is"
                        Posted by: Tony | November 30, 2007 at 01:02 PM

                        Those ragheads in Sudan are calling for the execution of that teacher; Muslim are so savage, primitive, and Third World, that it's appalling. "I'm not gonna even pretend to be open minded about this abomination of a religion; enough is enough.
                        Islam = Anti-Christ. It's a cancer to the free world."
                        Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 07:57 PM

                        http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingne...mosque-to.html





                        I'm just so frustrated with people like this. :(
                        in my time away from ummah.com, i have been spending quite a bit of time trying to talk to people who say these types of things

                        though some of it may be attributed to innocent ignorance, for the most part, it is a willing disdain for anything that goes against what they already believe

                        they say islam is barbaric, but they totally ignore the atrocities committed by europe and christianity

                        they say islam is stuck in the dark ages, though islam never had a dark age (maybe today is one of our darkest hours though)

                        they say islam dehumanizes women, but they ignore the porn and britney spears of the west, including teen sex, condoms and their constitutionally protected infanticide

                        they say that islam has a history of war, but they ignore that euromerican christianity has wiped out two indigenous people, dropped atomic bombs on two civilian cities, it has raped, pillaged, murdered, and stole from every country on earth

                        these people are willingly denying the truth, but they want to hold europe and america as some kind of standard for good

                        recently, we were discussing thanksgiving, a time to commemorate the decimation of the american indian, so after about fifty posts on the subject, they ask me, "so i guess you dont celebrate thanksgiving?"

                        so i basically say that these people have willingly chosen to be against islam, they are definitely deniers of the truth, definitely of the kuffar, just as Allah describes them in the Quran
                        .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                        نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                        دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                        • #13
                          Re: Something disheartening

                          they just want attention and most of the time they dont even know what they are saying, they just hear something off someone- usually the media and repeat it to look clever....no real knowledge whatsoever.

                          with fools like that it is wise to just ignore them and not give them the attention they yearn for.....until someone who knows how to debate and has genuinely done their research comes along wanting to prove Islam wrong...with ppl like that try and show them their ignorance and prove to them that they are wrong.
                          ....flown away to a far away place,
                          floating around somewhere in cyberspace....

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                          • #14
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                            they say islam dehumanizes women, but they ignore the porn and britney spears of the west, including teen sex, condoms and their constitutionally protected infanticide
                            True that. In the West, many young girls suffer from eating disorders and hate their bodies because they don't fit in with the media's version of what is considered beautiful.
                            Last edited by GothiKa; 08-12-07, 12:54 PM.
                            The definition of courage is to fight to the death in defense of religion, in defense of womanhood, of ill treated neighbours, of the oppressed who seek protection, or in defense of a lost fortune, honour which has been attacked, and other rights, against all adversaries, whether they be few or many.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Something disheartening

                              :start:

                              :salams

                              Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
                              in my time away from ummah.com, i have been spending quite a bit of time trying to talk to people who say these types of things

                              though some of it may be attributed to innocent ignorance, for the most part, it is a willing disdain for anything that goes against what they already believe

                              they say islam is barbaric, but they totally ignore the atrocities committed by europe and christianity

                              they say islam is stuck in the dark ages, though islam never had a dark age (maybe today is one of our darkest hours though)

                              they say islam dehumanizes women, but they ignore the porn and britney spears of the west, including teen sex, condoms and their constitutionally protected infanticide

                              they say that islam has a history of war, but they ignore that euromerican christianity has wiped out two indigenous people, dropped atomic bombs on two civilian cities, it has raped, pillaged, murdered, and stole from every country on earth

                              these people are willingly denying the truth, but they want to hold europe and america as some kind of standard for good

                              recently, we were discussing thanksgiving, a time to commemorate the decimation of the american indian, so after about fifty posts on the subject, they ask me, "so i guess you dont celebrate thanksgiving?"

                              so i basically say that these people have willingly chosen to be against islam, they are definitely deniers of the truth, definitely of the kuffar, just as Allah describes them in the Quran
                              Yes. AbuMubarak is right. And not only that, Wolfn, but most kuffar like the ones you described think that the West is the best society to live in, and compare Islaam to that. They think that they follow the best way of life; most of the ones I've talked to are convinced of this. Therefore anything you say about Islaam that doesn't follow their own method of thinking, they will dislike it and bash it.

                              That being said, there are some who are just angry at the current events that are happening in our world, and they are just taking their anger out over the internet, rather than having the guts to do it in person. (It also might have to do with what news sources they use.) I have found that sometimes after their anger has subsided, they're much more relaxed, willing to listen, and not so insulting (intentionally).

                              But if you are going to give people Dawah brother, please make sure you know what you're talking about instead of telling them the wrong thing. Or if you're not sure, refer them to person/location of knowledge (such as an Alim or a website).

                              :jkk:

                              :wswrwb:
                              Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims."(Al-'An`ām, 162-163)

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