Originally posted by Abu Sulayman
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فإن قال قائل منفر عن قبول الحق والإذعان له : يلزم من تقريركم، وقطعكم في أن من قال يا رسول الله، أسألك الشفاعة : أنه مشرك مهدر الدم ؛ أن يقال بكفر غالب الأمة ، ولا سيما المتأخرين، لتصريح علمائهم المعتبرين : أن ذلك مندوب، وشنوا الغارة على من خالف في ذلك ! قلت : لا يلزم، لأن لازم المذهب ليس بمذهب، كما هو مقرر، ومثل ذلك : لا يلزم أن نكون مجسمة، وإن قلنا بجهة العلو، كما ورد الحديث بذلك .ونحن نقول فيمن مات : تلك أمة قد خلت ؛ ولا نكفر إلا من بلغته دعوتنا للحق، ووضحت له المحجة، وقامت عليه الحجة، وأصر مستكبراً معانداً، كغالب من نقاتلهم اليوم، يصرون على ذلك الإشراك، ويمتنعون من فعل الواجبات، ويتظاهرون بأفعال الكبائر، المحرمات ؛ وغير الغالب : إنما نقاتله لمناصرته من هذه حاله، ورضاه به، ولتكثير سواد من ذكر، والتأليب معه، فله حينئذ حكمه في قتاله
If someone - trying to cause [a feeling of] opposition against accepting the truth and submission to it - says:
Your statement and certain assertion that the one who says "O Messenger of Allah, I ask for your intercession" is a polytheist whose blood is to be spilled, necessitates that one affirms the disbelief of the majority of the [Islamic] nation (Umma), especially the later ones [from among them], because their relied upon scholars have said that this is allowed and attacked the one who opposed in this [issue].
I say: This is not necessitated, because that which a statement necessitates is not the statement itself (Lazim al-Madhhab laysa bi Madhhab) as it is established and this is just like it‘s not necessary for us to be Mujassima just because we affirm the direction of highness (for Allah ta'ala) as the narration came regarding it.
We say regarding the one who has [already] died: { These were a nation that have passed away } [2:134] and we do not declare anyone to be a disbeliever except the one whom our call to truth has reached and the argument has become obvious to him and the proof has been established upon him and [thereafter] he [still] arrogantly and stubbornly insists [upon doing this] like the majority we fight today:
They insist on this committing of polytheism (Ishrak) and stay away from fulfilling the obligations and commit major sins and [other] sins.
As for the non-majority: We fight them for supporting the one whose state is like that and are pleased with them and make the group of those mentioned [before] larger and are allied to them, then the ruling of fighting against them applies to them also.
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The above quote is taken from the Wahhabi book al-Durar al-Saniyya (compilation of the statements of the Najdis).
As you see he‘s trying to act as if they’re not extreme and not making Takfir upon the Muslims who lived before and excused them, even though these Muslims and their scholars had committed that which the Najdis regarded as polytheism that makes the blood allowed (i.e. asking the Prophet - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - for intercession).
But at the same time he can‘t hide that he‘s belonging to a cultist bloodthirsty Khariji sect that regards only their own group as [real] Muslims by claiming that the people of their own time - who are upon the same things like the Muslims before - are now deserving to be fought, because the Najdi call has reached them!!
So if any scholar from the past had lived in their time and would have resumed to support seeking intercession, they would have regarded him a "polytheist deserving to be killed".
(Do not be fooled by his lie that he accused the majority group of additionally: He only mentions this in his Khariji vain to make his Takfir seem more acceptable.)
And now I ask:
Is the above not a prime example for cultist Khariji behavior and extremism?
I want an answer!
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