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Originally posted by Abu Sulayman
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Respected brother, let us please ONLY consider scholarly statements when discussing and not what laymen say or do not say.
Regarding the issue of Bashar and Nur:
No one doubts that the Prophet - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - was a human being, otherwise it would make no sense to say that he's from Banu Hashim and that his noble lineage goes back to Ibrahim, 'alayhil salatu wal salam.
This however does not exclude him - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - being light (Nur) at the same time.
This is a position that exists even among the early Muslims (like in the Tafsir of Imam al-Tustari (d. 283 AH)).
If a person now doesn't support this position based upon not finding convincing evidence, then this in itself is not problematic.
What is however problematic is if this person doesn't know the proper decorum when mentioning the Chosen One - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - and claims that "he's a human being LIKE US".
How can it be claimed that our Prophet - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - is "LIKE US", when Allah ta'ala has sent him as the Seal of all Messengers and Prophets - peace and blessings be upon him - and has honored him with all kind of miracles?!
Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala states regarding the disbelievers:
{ مَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن ذِكْرٍ مِّن رَّبِّهِم مُّحْدَثٍ إِلَّا اسْتَمَعُوهُ وَهُمْ يَلْعَبُونَ }
{ اهِيَةً قُلُوبُهُمْ ۗ وَأَسَرُّوا النَّجْوَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا هَلْ هَـٰذَا إِلَّا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ ۖ أَفَتَأْتُونَ السِّحْرَ وَأَنتُمْ تُبْصِرُونَ }
{ No mention comes to them anew from their Lord except that they listen to it while they are at play }
{ With their hearts distracted. And those who do wrong conceal their private conversation, [saying], "Is this [Prophet] except a human being like you? So would you approach magic while you are aware [of it]?" }
[Al-Qur`an al-karim 21:2-3 with English interpretation]
And He states:
{ وَاضْرِبْ لَهُم مَّثَلًا أَصْحَابَ الْقَرْيَةِ إِذْ جَاءَهَا الْمُرْسَلُونَ }
{ إِذْ أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهِمُ اثْنَيْنِ فَكَذَّبُوهُمَا فَعَزَّزْنَا بِثَالِثٍ فَقَالُوا إِنَّا إِلَيْكُم مُّرْسَلُونَ }
{ قَالُوا مَا أَنتُمْ إِلَّا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُنَا وَمَا أَنزَلَ الرَّحْمَـٰنُ مِن شَيْءٍ إِنْ أَنتُمْ إِلَّا تَكْذِبُونَ }
{ And present to them an example: the people of the city, when the messengers came to it - }
{ When We sent to them two but they denied them, so We strengthened them with a third, and they said, "Indeed, we are messengers to you." }
{ They said, "You are not but human beings like us, and the Most Merciful has not revealed a thing. You are only telling lies." }
[Al-Qur`an al-karim 36:13-15 with English interpretation]
So acting as if the Messengers and Prophets of Allah - peace and blessings be upon them all - are like the rest of humans is from the way of the disbelievers and it's not befitting of a Muslim to follow the way of the disbelievers!
No one denies that he was the best of man, a light of guidence with the best manners, even if you refer to the prophet صلى اللّه عليه وسلم as nur with that belief, it's fine.
But bralwis actually believe he was made from the light of Allah, this is a based on fabricated ahadith, they then hate those who say he was not made of light.
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