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  • IsaahM
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    Originally posted by Khamsa_khmis View Post

    Same. It's hard to keep going once you feel better
    Maybe that's why some people are fated to suffer more than others. Because that's the only way they will remember Allah regularly.

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  • Khamsa_khmis
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    Originally posted by IsaahM View Post

    Yeah almost everything has roots in both nature and nurture.



    I can confirm this through recent experience. At no point during dhikr will you feel uneasy. The only problem is how long you can sustain constant continuous dhikr, it's hard to do it over extensive periods (as a beginner) and it's also hard to keep focus and concentration at all times.
    Same. It's hard to keep going once you feel better

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  • IsaahM
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    Originally posted by usernametaken View Post
    I believe some people naturally have better mental health even if they have poor spirituality. Maybe it is nature and nurture.
    Yeah almost everything has roots in both nature and nurture.

    Originally posted by Khamsa_khmis View Post

    Dikr is the best medicine. It soothes a heavy heart.
    I can confirm this through recent experience. At no point during dhikr will you feel uneasy. The only problem is how long you can sustain constant continuous dhikr, it's hard to do it over extensive periods (as a beginner) and it's also hard to keep focus and concentration at all times.

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  • Khamsa_khmis
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    Originally posted by IsaahM View Post

    True. Spirituality is a great resilience factor for mental health.
    Dikr is the best medicine. It soothes a heavy heart.

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  • usernametaken
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    I believe some people naturally have better mental health even if they have poor spirituality. Maybe it is nature and nurture.

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  • IsaahM
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    Originally posted by Poster View Post

    To an extent it's exactly what the thread is about.

    The question however is to what extent is spiritual health and mental health connected? Let's take depression for example. What exactly is depression?

    Is it the rewiring of chemicals in the brain and a misfiring of neurotransmitters? If so, how does that occur?

    "For some people, an upsetting or stressful life event, such as bereavement, divorce, illness, redundancy and job or money worries, can be the cause.

    Different causes can often combine to trigger depression. For example, you may feel low after being ill and then experience a traumatic event, such as a bereavement, which brings on depression."

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinic...ession/causes/

    I'm not going to make the case that being spiritually sound always prevents depression but I sure do believe there's a link between the two.

    To be clear though, I think 'mental health' is a very broad term and it has to be broken down into categories. A person can be born with autism with its treatment being different to anxiety disorder for example. Wallahu a'lam.
    True. Spirituality is a great resilience factor for mental health.

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  • Poster
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    Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post

    of course we have spiritual help but thats not what i thought this thread was about
    To an extent it's exactly what the thread is about.

    The question however is to what extent is spiritual health and mental health connected? Let's take depression for example. What exactly is depression?

    Is it the rewiring of chemicals in the brain and a misfiring of neurotransmitters? If so, how does that occur?

    "For some people, an upsetting or stressful life event, such as bereavement, divorce, illness, redundancy and job or money worries, can be the cause.

    Different causes can often combine to trigger depression. For example, you may feel low after being ill and then experience a traumatic event, such as a bereavement, which brings on depression."

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinic...ession/causes/

    I'm not going to make the case that being spiritually sound always prevents depression but I sure do believe there's a link between the two.

    To be clear though, I think 'mental health' is a very broad term and it has to be broken down into categories. A person can be born with autism with its treatment being different to anxiety disorder for example. Wallahu a'lam.
    Last edited by Poster; 27-03-19, 05:30 PM.

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  • Kya
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    It is not fair to expect Imam to provide psychology service and every other service necessary in community. One person can not be an expert in everything. I would not expect my imam or masjid to solve my mental health issue but I do hope they know people who can help & can guide people to right connections. In my area we have Muslim Family Service by ICNA relief that offers free therapy session along with other types of financial help to people in need. But the stigma still exist. We are about 20-30 years behind American people in terms of recognizing mental health issue. In typical American culture, going to see a therapist for minor issue is like seeing a G.P: no big deal. But in our culture (the average Desi Muslim people) still are afraid to see a therapist and think only person who need to be in mental institution sees therapist. That a good beating can slap depression out of a person & a good rukyah can knock the bad omen out of anyone. Even among young people, it is not normalized yet.

    I am sure my Bengali people can relate to this, that people with mental issue including autism and asparagus are called "fagol" (crazy) instead of what it really is a disease. An Depression, and postpartum depression are thrown under "laziness". Bipolar, depression, anxiety is very common in our society that are completely ignored as a real issue. Yes quran, namaz, dua and healthy diet and workout all help but sometimes recognizing the issue so you can address it is the issue. As a community it is changing and people are recognizing mental issue. Some more than others.

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  • Abu julaybeeb
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    depression, anxiety, ocd , post traumatic stress disorder etc

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  • IsaahM
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post

    First and foremost resource: al-Qur'an
    Surah Ad-Duha

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  • MuslimThinker
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    I think mental health should be a separate topic in discourses at the same time to go in depth and have more increased awareness on the matter. Maybe lack of exposure.
    Like psychology yes is necessary like Abu Julaybeeb mentioned earlier.

    with increasing cases of mental health.

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  • iRepIslam
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    Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

    Which invisible illness is being ignored and by who give an example.
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    One individual ignoring something doesn't mean the community is ignoring mental health issues
    It isn't hard to believe that we've got a few in our communities, mainly those from the generations that have yet to understand mental health, the severity of it and treatment management. That is due to ignorance and Allah knows best.

    Mental health AND neurological conditions that some individuals mail fail to recognise include, Bipolar disorders, Schizophrenia, OCD, ADHD etc. Just to name a few.

    We aren't disregarding the fact that our communities are certainly more enlightened and aware of mental health issues, we have made alot of progress, however, we are not where we want to be, yet.
    Last edited by iRepIslam; 27-03-19, 12:56 PM.

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  • Saif-Uddin
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    Originally posted by iRepIslam View Post
    Alhamdulilah there are a growing number of Muslim counsellors and psychologists, you could argue that it is being ignored by the ignorant individuals in our community who have yet to accept and understand invisible illnesses and impairments.

    Let our generations be the one to change that, yes, the Qur'an is shifaa AND we also have the means to fix mental health issues medically and psychologically, be it a consistent amount of therapy with professionals, medication etc.
    Which invisible illness is being ignored and by who give an example.
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    One individual ignoring something doesn't mean the community is ignoring mental health issues

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  • Saif-Uddin
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    The idea that mental health isn't given it's due attention in Islam or by Muslims is getting more and more popular.

    This thread is to challenge that idea.
    Don't recall anyone in my life even from those I heard of ignoring it, they all acknowledge it.

    Anything to attack them Muslims mentality nowadays

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  • iRepIslam
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    Alhamdulilah there are a growing number of Muslim counsellors and psychologists, you could argue that it is being ignored by the ignorant individuals in our community who have yet to accept and understand invisible illnesses and impairments.

    Let our generations be the one to change that, yes, the Qur'an is shifaa AND we also have the means to fix mental health issues medically and psychologically, be it a consistent amount of therapy with professionals, medication etc.

    Leave a comment:

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