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  • #46
    I would say with a lot of the limitations avoiding riba can cause, trying to enhance your career or job pay is a good thing, for example if someone wants to buy a house without riba they will have to work harder to avoid a mortgage, renting will be a more suitable option but a higher salary means more choices in renting options/locations.

    Obviously if they are happy with not doing that, that is fine too.

    Taxi has been mentioned on this thread, but i've heard you have to be careful where you drop people off, like haram locations. But I don't know about that.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by usernametaken View Post
      I would say with a lot of the limitations avoiding riba can cause, trying to enhance your career or job pay is a good thing, for example if someone wants to buy a house without riba they will have to work harder to avoid a mortgage, renting will be a more suitable option but a higher salary means more choices in renting options/locations...
      That is how you get sucked in.



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      • #48
        Originally posted by Indefinable View Post
        Never worked with men. But doubt it would be any better.

        I had that nasty experience with some sisters last year (if you remember?) - scarred me for life.

        (Yes a bit over dramatic, but since I'm getting older, I can't tolerate things as much, don't really have the patience either).
        i remember and they were Muslim women which is worse

        There was only one place that was horrible, majority of the time I've worked with non muslim women and fortunately for me it was a good environment
        'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Indefinable View Post
          Never worked with men. But doubt it would be any better.

          I had that nasty experience with some sisters last year (if you remember?) - scarred me for life.

          (Yes a bit over dramatic, but since I'm getting older, I can't tolerate things as much, don't really have the patience either).
          What happened sis? Tell me everything...link me tothe thread
          Women lost their modesty when men lost their gheerah..” .

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
            That is how you get sucked in.


            I know, but what's the alternative?
            I'm guessing it is accepting things, working just to provide, accepting any oppurtunities that arise, I don't see how that is good (unless you chosse otherwise) when pretty much everyone is working hard or accepting riba.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by shay5 View Post

              What happened sis? Tell me everything...link me tothe thread
              (I didn't mention it on the main forum. I PMd Ya'sin for advice last year).

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                That is how you get sucked in.
                Deen should be given priority. But there needs to be a balance.

                There's nothing wrong with wanting to save up so you can outright own an apartment/house.

                It's security for your wife and kids.



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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Indefinable View Post

                  Deen should be given priority. But there needs to be a balance.

                  There's nothing wrong with wanting to save up so you can outright own an apartment/house.

                  It's security for your wife and kids.


                  Nothing wrong with that in itself but think about the sacrifices you'd have to make.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Indefinable View Post

                    (I didn't mention it on the main forum. I PMd Ya'sin for advice last year).
                    Sorry to hear you had a horrible experience...
                    Women lost their modesty when men lost their gheerah..” .

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by shay5 View Post

                      Sorry to hear you had a horrible experience...
                      It's alright sis. May Allaah reward you for your compassion. I think it's a trait we seem to be lacking greatly.

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                      • #56
                        Buying a house without a mortgage is almost impossible.
                        But with higher pay it is possible to try to break the 'cycle' by creating better oppurtunities for example if someone wants to go uni, it is more likely it can be funded, depending on the job they are going for.
                        Obviously that does not mean you cannot compromise either, but at least you know you tried if you had to give up a certain job/commitment for any reason.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                          The battle for 'equality' is about women being more like men. We always talk about the pitfalls of 'career-minded' women but I believe this is because men have already paved the way.

                          Who is to blame? Men, for setting up and promoting the idea of chasing the dunya, or women for copying them...

                          It's a lizard-hole.
                          Dunya chasers both guilty, but its many women who don't believe financial responsibilities on the man, they want to be independent, make a name for themselves etc, so the children/family suffer as a result.

                          Messed up priorities, leading to disasterous families.
                          Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 29-11-18, 07:23 AM.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post

                            There is nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition. However, it can problem when competing for dunya related stuff - and careers are usually a long term thing. It's not just a light hearted thing that you don't put much value on.

                            When men go down that route and it's widely accepted as a mark of achievement that demands respect, women will naturally want to follow.
                            Thats a problem with females using a man's scale to measure their own success

                            would ve hard to change nature of men
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                            • #59
                              I don't like the materialistic way some Muslims look at careers and work. The black and white outlook - you're either condemned for being a dunya chaser or careers and financial status is all that makes you an eligible marriage potential or someone respected in the community.

                              There is nothing wrong with working hard its commendable, as well as achieving your dreams. Of course rizq lies with Allah but there are examples of wealthy prophets and prophets who came from humble backgrounds, peace and blessings of Allah be upon all of them.

                              Who has the time to step aside and leave off small matters to implement the ways of these Prophets to handle wealth and poverty, nowadays?

                              I would remind myself first but I'm just studying solely, left my job to focus on my final year completely.

                              Actually, I guess this is my case - if I have money I'm happy and try to be grateful, when I'm poor I don't want to complain or ask for help.

                              That is a very basic Islamic attitude but its an attempt.

                              I think we should look at wealth, careers and education with nuance, and not disparage it as just 'dunya'.

                              Its been conferred to us for a reason, and the lowly dunya is the kingdom of the disbeliever. We are given BLESSINGS to be thankful and reflect on this transitory world...
                              وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ - 31:19

                              And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."


                              أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                              Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by samin62 View Post

                                Thats a problem with females using a man's scale to measure their own success

                                would ve hard to change nature of men
                                True,

                                Feminists in a nutshell akhi, massive inferiority complex,

                                جزاك الله خيرا
                                Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 30-11-18, 09:36 AM.
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