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    They take your words to mean more than they are...

    Asians fall under high context while Westerners are low context

    The latter take your word more at face value without reading too much into it

    Explains why Asians read so much into what you say...
    Watch those eyes

  • #2
    Guess i should stay clear of asians then
    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

    O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

    Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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    • #3
      Say something and they will derive meanings from what you have said that even you didn't know were possible....
      Watch those eyes

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      • Fakhri
        Fakhri commented
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        Hmmm... Examples?

    • #4
      "Biscuit?"

      "No thanks."

      "Why? Do you have diabetes? Are you on a diet? What's happened? Why aren't you having a biscuit? Did you want a custard cream instead? Do you think you're 'above' everyone else?"



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      • #5
        Originally posted by aynina View Post
        Guess i should stay clear of asians then
        Why...? Are you racist? (jk)
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        • aynina
          aynina commented
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          Haha, no i can sound harsh sometimes in my speech

        • Indefinable
          Indefinable commented
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          Ah... I know you're not. Was just being a 'typical' Asian.

      • #6
        Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
        They take your words to mean more than they are...

        Asians fall under high context while Westerners are low context

        The latter take your word more at face value without reading too much into it

        Explains why Asians read so much into what you say...
        Have you been on twitter or any western forum? It's full of people twisting words out of context and trolling. The entire western main stream media's stock in trade is taking words out of context.

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        • #7
          I, on the other hand, am very low-context despite being a Pakistani...

          Would it be racist for a Pakistani to refer to himself as a Paki?
          Watch those eyes

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          • Abu julaybeeb
            Abu julaybeeb commented
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            Your such a paki

          • Linkdeutscher
            Linkdeutscher commented
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            We are all as Paki as it gets Paki.

        • #8
          Personally, I think it's not really much about East/West or where a person is from. I think it has a lot more to do with a person's personality/character...

          I think we could find example of the opposite being true regarding who is high/low-context as has already been mentioned.

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          • #9
            Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
            I, on the other hand, am very low-context despite being a Pakistani...
            Would it be racist for a Pakistani to refer to himself as a Paki?
            I never even understood the racism in that word, isnt it just short for pakistani, like mocro is short for morrocon and soma is short for somali, saudi short for saudi arabian.. i dont see the racism in it
            يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

            O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

            Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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            • Fakhri
              Fakhri commented
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              True. Unless I'm mistaken, Paki means or is related to the word 'pure', so technically being called a Paki would be... A compliment? Obviously, when it's used with the racist intent it becomes something else, but I have to admit I've always thought it's a bit like a person from Scotland being called a 'scot'.

          • #10
            Originally posted by Rahma. View Post
            Personally, I think it's not really much about East/West or where a person is from. I think it has a lot more to do with a person's personality/character...

            I think we could find example of the opposite being true regarding who is high/low-context as has already been mentioned.
            Actually, what you believe personally has also been alluded to by studies. But what I do not understand is if we do take that to be the case, then how do we explain the observation that environment plays a major role in shaping you.

            You live among high context ppl...you are bound to take up their high context nature as you grow up among them, no?
            Watch those eyes

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            • #11
              Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

              Actually, what you believe personally has also been alluded to by studies. But what I do not understand is if we do take that to be the case, then how do we explain the observation that environment plays a major role in shaping you.

              You live among high context ppl...you are bound to take up their high context nature as you grow up among them, no?
              Yes, environment definitely impacts on a person.

              But then there are those situations where a person is in a certain environment but they choose to act differently - so this becomes from their personality/character and what they decide to accept/reject from their environment. For example, in a family, there could be 1 or 2 people who are different to the rest, such as a family could be non-Muslim, but 1 person has gone against the majority in their environment and chose to be Muslim...

              Also, the context/scenario might play a part in when a person might be deemed as low or high-context, such as: X might say, "I'm not going to work", and Y might read more into it and respond with "Is it because of your health?" - only because yesterday X told Y that they weren't feeling well. But otherwise Y might not normally read more into things.

              All I can think is that Allah puts certain balances in place and ultimately we make our choices in what we accept in our character.. if that makes sense.
              If there is more to it and it's a lot more complex, then, I don't know.

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              • #12
                Yes there's always exceptions to the rule but I think there is a lot of truth in this.
                You don't need specialists & studies ... you just need real-life experience in these cultures.

                Asians tend to analyse and derive meanings from what has been said that you would never even think of. It is usually the source of the politics in these cultures.
                British Asians can be a bit of both - you have those who are more shaped by the culture and those that have a more simplistic mindset - or 'low context'

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                • #13
                  Honestly I didn't want to say this, but some cultures are like that. Its not good, its not good to be involved with what doesn't concern you from an Islamic perspective.
                  وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ - 31:19

                  And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."


                  أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                  Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


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                  • #14
                    Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
                    Honestly I didn't want to say this, but some cultures are like that. Its not good, its not good to be involved with what doesn't concern you from an Islamic perspective.
                    It can be annoying.

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                    • #15
                      i think asian culture has been spoiled by mushrikeen and jahl

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