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  • #16
    Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    They take your words to mean more than they are...

    Asians fall under high context while Westerners are low context

    The latter take your word more at face value without reading too much into it

    Explains why Asians read so much into what you say...
    hmmm....

    Seems like a personal generalisation
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    "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

    – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
      i think asian culture has been spoiled by mushrikeen and jahl
      Thats true,
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      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

        hmmm....

        Seems like a personal generalisation
        Not really. There are numerous studies on the subject. I would direct you to them but we have seen how your reading comprehension is below par and those studies would be tough for you to comprehend
        Watch those eyes

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

          hmmm....

          Seems like a personal generalisation
          For the sake of fairness it seems that you belong to the high context culture when we look at the amount things you come up with from a mere question someone asks you.

          Btw don't let the word high in high context fool you into thinking that belonging to such a culture is a good thing... : )
          Watch those eyes

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
            Your such a paki
            Why do you always have to be so offensive? Why not just write the proper word? It's 'You're.'

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          • #21
            Interesting thread bayta.
            You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

            You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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            • ZeeshanParvez
              ZeeshanParvez commented
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              Jigr it is an interesting concept

          • #22
            Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
            Say something and they will derive meanings from what you have said that even you didn't know were possible....
            salaams to all

            its mostly women who do this. i know women in my family who do it too.

            very difficult to get them to take someones words at face value- esp when it comes to other relatives...
            they always think ppl are insinuating something else when they say anything.

            theyre just too suspicious and insecure.

            and Allah ta'ala knows best
            jazakallah
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            • #23
              Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

              Not really. There are numerous studies on the subject. I would direct you to them but we have seen how your reading comprehension is below par and those studies would be tough for you to comprehend
              If I was to follow your antics I'd have to to say you have Phsychotic tendencies,

              Although you do have serious problems upstairs for sure.
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              • #24
                Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                If I was to follow your antics I'd have to to say you have Phsychotic tendencies,

                Although you do have serious problems upstairs for sure.
                Now now Saif let's not throw tantrums and derail threads!
                Watch those eyes

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                • #25
                  Because Asians have very politically correct (polite culture) where one is not allowed to express their inner most feelings. especially young people are not allowed to be rude to an elder or so NO. Everyone is aware of this and the elders have lived thru it. Of course at certain stage in life, you have paid your dues enough to say whatever you want & be the voice of reason. But we are aware that not everything gets spilled out right & one has to read between to line to truly understand what someone means. Is someone being polite and saying "no to biscuits" or do they truly not want some.

                  Western on the other hand have been raised at young age to not hold back. To say something when you see something & it is perfectly ok to be rude to an elder if they are wrong and perfectly fine to voice your opinion. Asian's are not raised that way.

                  but also realize you know Asian at a personal level. So your interaction with Asian will be more complex and have higher level of complexity than someone you meet in work setting. There is no reason for you to have double meaning with someone you are exchanging high/hellos

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                  • #26
                    Somalis and asians then, will never get along.
                    شَكَوْتُ إلَى وَكِيعٍ سُوءَ حِفْظِي
                    فَأرْشَدَنِي إلَى تَرْكِ المعَاصي
                    وَأخْبَرَنِي بأَنَّ العِلْمَ نُورٌ
                    ونورُ الله لا يهدى لعاصي

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                    • #27
                      I don't think there is anything wrong with having a "high context culture". Islam teaches us to be concise in our speech. The prophet pbuh was very precise in his wordings.

                      the Messenger of Allaah pbuh said: “I have been favoured over the other Prophets in six ways: I have been given the gift of concise speech; I have been supported with fear; booty has been made permissible for me; the earth has been made a means of purification and a place of prostration for me; I have been sent to all of mankind; and the (line of) Prophets ends with me.” Narrated by Muslim (523).

                      Speaking with Low context is for people with low intellectual capacity, which seems to be the predominant culture these days...

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                      • #28
                        Originally posted by MyUsernameIs... View Post
                        Yes there's always exceptions to the rule but I think there is a lot of truth in this.
                        You don't need specialists & studies ... you just need real-life experience in these cultures.

                        Asians tend to analyse and derive meanings from what has been said that you would never even think of. It is usually the source of the politics in these cultures.
                        British Asians can be a bit of both - you have those who are more shaped by the culture and those that have a more simplistic mindset - or 'low context'
                        This is interesting - this high and low context thing. In other words, I wish I had a more simplistic mindset... Guess this explains why I take offense pretty easily.

                        Words can kill and the environment I live in does practice this culture of politeness.
                        Last edited by nudgetheputri; 06-12-18, 11:20 AM.

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                        • #29
                          Desi culture is very high context.

                          At the same time I believe every culture has elements of this. Just different things.
                          Last edited by usernametaken; 07-12-18, 08:44 PM.

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                          • #30
                            It's also quite looked down upon if a person is simple minded and 'minds their own business'. Because the more 'chalak' (clever/cunning) will be able to manipulate them and take advantage of them. Nosiness is probably very common in these cultures.

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