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  • Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

    sallam alekum

    alhamdulil'allah wa salat ala al mustafa!

    dear brothers and sisters,

    just wanted to pop in and ask a quick question that my friend want information about

    he asks, if it is harram for boys to talk to girls, or for girls to talk to boys on msn, or eleswhere etc...

    please, if u know, give me ur dalil (prove) because he wants the prove, i tried to find prove on google, but it was useless.

    hope to see your reply soon, even today :P

    wswrwb

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    Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

    If it's "flirt-related" then surly it isn't allowed, this should be logical with a little knowlegde about islam.
    What forms of topics are allowed, I don't know. That's where you'll need some proof.

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    • #3
      Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

      hmmmmmmmmmmmmm my bro researched this a while ago and sheiks say that:

      If they talk normally and in front of the parents its FINE. But if they flirt and talk to each other behind there parents back then is obviously haram.

      Girls: i advise you to stay away from this. Some men act all straight but are not good. Men always have minds of their own.

      Men: If you know you are not going to flirt then i guess its okay for you to talk to them about business or what ever. But if you know you have a part of bad intention then just stay away before it even begins.

      Ill try to get you some dalales.
      Surat Al-An'am verse 26: Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, so they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the Signs, they will not believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee; they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."

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      • #4
        Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

        for flirtation yes it is haram

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        • #5
          Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

          yea ok thanks "sis sarah & perfectpearl", hamdlilallah i dont do this and insha'allah i will never, because i find it totally harram, because it causes fitna, unless its a talk ot convo' about islam, life NOTHING ABOVE A LIMIT!
          is there like a hadith or something that proves this is harram, i did have something but im unable to find it.
          thanks again sis sarah & perfectpearl

          wswrwb

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          • #6
            Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

            Originally posted by perfectpearl View Post
            hmmmmmmmmmmmmm my bro researched this a while ago and sheiks say that:

            If they talk normally and in front of the parents its FINE. But if they flirt and talk to each other behind there parents back then is obviously haram.

            Girls: i advise you to stay away from this. Some men act all straight but are not good. Men always have minds of their own.

            Men: If you know you are not going to flirt then i guess its okay for you to talk to them about business or what ever. But if you know you have a part of bad intention then just stay away before it even begins.

            Ill try to get you some dalales.
            YEA getting me som dalales would be very kind of u, and ill be vary greatful!
            hope u post soon

            WSWRWB

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            • #7
              Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

              aslamu alkum

              You welcome for everything and may Allah reward you for your concern to this issue. I have found you 3 dalels. They are very helpful. Again its pratcilly the same thing i told you but in a longer version.

              Hope you find it helpful :)

              DALEL #1

              Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

              In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

              All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

              Dear brother in Islam, you have raised a very important question, which reflects a common trend nowadays among our youth and others, when the majority don't even bother to learn the restrictions that are dictated by religion to preserve morality in society. Thanks to the sophisticated means of modern communication, everyone finds himself tempted to try everything new in technology.

              Thus, it's very important for each Muslim to know where he stands and to always keep in mind that, as he is given full right to make use of any opportunity offered by modern technology, he is also required not to forget the duty he owes to Almighty Allah Who subjects to him all such avenues of comfort and prosperity. He must not deviate, whatsoever, from the teachings of his religion, in order to preserve his noble identity.

              In response to the question in point, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

              Chatting with members of opposite sex, whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims, personally face to face, or on phone or chat lines all fall in the same category. The haram of it is haram, and the halal of it is halal.

              Islam does not allow Muslims to be befriending members of opposite sex for the sake of companionship or for casual conversations; it has been forbidden because of its risks; it may entail isolation, lead to unlawful flirting, and engender unlawful thoughts, desires or lusts.

              However, occasional, serious, business-like conversations with the members of the opposite sex are considered lawful, just as they are lawful when done face to face so long as one observes the Islamic ethics of interaction.

              Islam teaches that as Muslims we must shun not only that which is clearly haram, but also everything that creates agitation or doubt or restlessness in our souls. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Sin is that which causes agitation in your heart or mind; whereas virtue is that which the heart is content and at peace about!” (Reported by Ahmad)


              So engaging in unnecessary chatting may lead to unforeseen consequences. It may also engender doubts and suspicions in our minds as well in the minds of others. So we are best advised to shun them altogether in the first place in order to safeguard our religion and honor. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Halal is clear; haram is clear, but there are certain cases which are dubious or doubtful; whoever shuns them safeguards his religion and honor; whoever falls into them risks falling into haram like a shepherd who lets his herd graze around the forbidden territory, for it may thus encroach upon the forbidden territory!” (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim).





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              DALEL #2

              Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

              In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

              All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

              Dear sister in Islam, you have raised a very important question, which reflects what is common nowadays among youth, or, rather, what has become a vogue on which majority don't even bother to know what are the restrictions dictated by religion, in order to preserve morality in the society. Thanks to the sophisticated means of modern communication, everyone finds himself at the mercy of all what is new in technology.

              Thus, it's very important for Muslim youth to know where he stands, and to always keep in mind that, as he is given full right to make use of any golden opportunity offered by modern technology, he is also required not to forget the duty he owes the Mighty Power that subjects to Him all such avenues of comfort and prosperity. He must not deviate, whatsoever, from the teachings of his religion, in order to preserve his noble identity.

              Answering the questions you raised, Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America, states:

              You have raised a number of serious questions. First is the question about the Internet chats between males and females. Second is about seeking a matrimonial partner - husband or wife - in this way and talking to the future spouse.

              Internet chat is very similar to writing letters or talking to someone on phone. Actually it is a combination of both. Muslims have to observe the same rules as they observe in writing letters or making telephone calls. Islam does not permit love letters or intimate conversations between males and females who are not married to each other.

              In all our correspondence and conversations we must observe haya' or modesty. Boys and girls should not chat with each other just for socialization or passing time. It is haram (unlawful) for a non-mahram Muslim male and female to indulge in long conversations with each other unless it is necessary for education or for business. All conversation must be decent. The Qur'an reminds us again and again that all our words are recorded and we shall be held accountable for our words as well as our deeds on the Day of Judgment. (See Al-Ahzab 33:70; Qaf 50:18)

              If one finds an interesting partner through Internet and there is a desire to know more about each other in order to get married, then one should involve one's elders in this matter. Let the elders or some responsible friends do the investigation and negotiation on your behalf. Even when you want to talk to that person, it is good to have an elder present in this chat. In Islam the khalwah (privacy) with the non-mahram female (ajnabiyyah) is forbidden. Khalwah of course occurs when a male and a female are alone in person. But a virtual khalwah can also happen through conversation by phone or Internet. Just as men and women should not be alone with each other, in a similar way they should not be alone to talk to each other on phone or via Internet chat, especially if this conversation is about personal matters.

              Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: www.pakistanlink.com

              To conclude, communication between a man and a woman should be of a goal that complies with enjoying what is good and preventing what is bad. Any communication or chatting between a man and a woman if not for a good cause, it will be a possibility for the cause of Shaytan (Satan). One should always ask him/herself why do I want to write to that man/woman or to talk to him/her? The answer will be helpful to take action. Keep far away from desire as Satan has very complicated approaches to insinuate you deviate from righteousness.

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              dalel 3



              In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

              All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

              Dear sister in Islam, thank you very much for having confidence in us, and we implore Allah to guide you to the best, and to direct you to that which pleases Him, Ameen.



              In Islam, contacts between men and women are permissible as long as both parties adhere to the teachings of Islam and ethical morals. There is nothing wrong that men and women co-operate together on that which is lawful and permissible such as acquiring beneficial knowledge or good work.



              As regards the issue of mixing between sexes, we would like to quote for you the following fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi:

              In principle, contacts between men and women are not totally rejected; rather, recommendable so long as a noble objective is intended and the subject itself is lawful such as acquiring beneficial knowledge, good work, charitable project, obligatory Jihad or many other deeds that require the efforts and the co-operation the both sexes.

              However, this by no means calls for transgressing the limits and forgetting about the nature of both sexes. In all their dealings, both men and women are to abide by the teachings of Islam that call for co-operation on the basis of goodness and piety while observing the rules of morality and politeness.

              The following are the conditions that must be met when there is a contact between both sexes:

              1- Both parties should adhere to lowering the gaze. No lustful look should exist. Almighty Allah says: [Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.] (An-Nur: 30-31)

              2- A Muslim woman should observe the Muslim code of dressing. The Muslim dress for women, as well-known, covers the whole body save for the face and the hands. It is neither tight nor light in a way that describes the features of the body.

              3- General morality should be adhered to. In other words, a woman should be serious in speech and decent in way of walking, nipping any trial of Satan to spread immorality in the bud. Also, no perfumes are to be worn while being away from home, for the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Any woman who wears perfumes and then passes by a group of men and they smell it, she is an adulteress.”

              4-No man and woman are allowed to be together in a place where no other males exist, for the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “(Doing so) their third mate will be Satan i.e. leading them to sin.” This applies also to the relatives of the husband as the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Beware of sitting with women alone!” They (the Companions) said: “What about the relative of the husband, O Messenger of Allah?” He said: “A relative of the husband is death i.e. the cause of death.” This is because a relative of a husband may stay for a long time and thus the danger of sin becomes greater.

              5- Finally, we would like to note that all these contacts are not to be given loose rein. They are to be carried out according to need and reasonable interaction. Contacting men, no Muslim woman is allowed to forget about her nature or her role as a woman and instructor of all Muslim generations.
              Surat Al-An'am verse 26: Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, so they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the Signs, they will not believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee; they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."

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                Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

                jazaki ALLAH kair sister,
                very helpful infomation!!
                masha'ALLAHA.
                thanks so much again
                may allah reward u insha'ALLAH

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                • #9
                  Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

                  Originally posted by ana_mujahid View Post
                  jazaki ALLAH kair sister,
                  very helpful infomation!!
                  masha'ALLAHA.
                  thanks so much again
                  may allah reward u insha'ALLAH
                  daleels galore for you:up:
                  :salams

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is It Harram For Boys To Talk To Girls Or For Girls To Talk To Boys? ?

                    old thread, thanks the path 2

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