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    Are we eating Pork?
    - Dr. M. Amjad Khan
    In nearly all the western countries including Europe, the primary choice for meat is pig. There are a lot of farms in these countries to breed this animal. In France alone, Pig Farms account for more than 42,000. Pigs have the highest quantity of fat in their body than any other animal. The following report by a medical practitioner reveals the extent to which pig fat might be unknowingly consumed by Muslims throughout the world.
    One of my friends, Shaikh Sahib works in Pegal, France, in the Department of Food. His work is to register all makes of goods, foods and medicines. Whenever any company is putting something in the market, its ingredients have to be approved by the Department of Food, France, and as Shaikh Sahib works in the Laboratory Quality Control, he knows about the ingredients. Many of these ingredients contain scientific names, but some have mathematical names, like E-904, E-141.
    At first, when Shaikh Sahib came across them, he was curious and asked his Department Incharge, who was a French, and he replied, "Just do your job. Don't ask questions." This aroused suspicion in Shaikh Sahib's mind and he started looking-up for them in the files. What he found was enough to astonish any Muslim in the world. In nearly all the western countries including Europe, the primary choice for meat is pig. There are a lot of farms in these countries to breed this animal. In France alone, Pig Farms account for more than 42,000. Pigs have the highest quantity of fat in their body than any other animal. But Europeans and Americans try to avoid fats. Thus, where does the fat from these pigs go?
    All pigs are cut in slaughter houses under the control of the department of food and it was the headache of the department of food to dispose of the fat removed from these pigs. Formally, it was burnt (about 60 years ago). Then they thought of utilizing it. First, they experimented it in the making of soaps and it worked. Then, a full network was formed and this fat was chemically processed, packed and marketed, while the other manufacturing companies bought it.
    In the meantime, all European States made it a rule that every Food, Medical and Personal Hygiene product should have the ingredients listed on it's cover. So, this ingredient was listed as pig fat. Those who are living in Europe for the past 40 years know about this. But, these products came under a ban by the Islamic countries at that time, which resulted in a trade deficit.
    Going back in time, if you are somehow related to South East Asia, you might know about the provoking factors of the 1857 Civil War. At that time, rifle bullets were made in Europe and transported to the sub-continent through the sea. It took months to reach there and the gunpowder in it was ruined due to the exposure to sea. Then, they got the idea of coating the bullets with fat, which was pig fat. The fat layer had to be scratched by teeth before using them. when the word spread, the soldiers, mostly Muslim and some vegetarians, refused to fight. This eventually lead to the Civil War. The Europeans recognized this fact, and instead of writing 'pig fat', they started writing 'animal fat'. All those living in Europe since 1970's know this fact.
    When the companies were asked by authorities from the Muslim countries, what animal fat is it, they were told it was cow and sheep fat. Here again a question arose, if it was cow or sheep fat, still it is haram to Muslims, as these animal were not slaughtered as per the Islamic law. Thus, they were again banned.
    Now, these multinational companies were again facing a severe drought of money as 75% of their income comes from selling their goods to Muslim Countries, and these earn billions of Dollars of profit from their exports to the Muslim world.
    Finally they decided to start a coding language, so that only their Departments of Food Administration should know what they are using, and the common man is left lurking in the dark. Thus, they started E-Codes.
    These E-Ingredients are present in a majority of products of multinational firms including, but not limited to - tooth paste, shaving cream, chewing gum, chocolate, sweets, biscuits, corn flakes, toffees, canned foods, fruit tins, and some medications like multi-vitamins. Since these goods are being used in all Muslim countries indiscrimately, our society is facing problems like shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity.
    So I request all Muslims to check the ingredients of the items of daily use and match it with the following list of E-Codes. If any of the ingredients listed below is found, try to avoid it, as it has got pig fat.
    E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252, E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475, E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542, E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
    It is the responsibility of each and every Muslim to follow the Islamic path and also keep his fellow followers informed of anything that he comes across. May Allah help us lead a halal life.
    (Contribution courtesy: Ayesha Siddiqua, Gulbarga)

    May ALLAH (Subhana-Wa-Ta'ala) protect us from all that is Haram.
    Aameen.
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  • #2
    Re: Are we eating Pork?

    Whereabouts in France is Pegal? I can find no trace of it. I think that this is a lie.

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    • #3
      Re: Are we eating Pork?

      Originally posted by newnida View Post
      Are we eating Pork?
      - Dr. M. Amjad Khan
      [I][I] Since these goods are being used in all Muslim countries indiscrimately, our society is facing problems like shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity. \
      (Contribution courtesy: Ayesha Siddiqua, Gulbarga)

      May ALLAH (Subhana-Wa-Ta'ala) protect us from all that is Haram.
      Aameen.

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      • #4
        Re: Are we eating Pork?

        dont eat any e numbers i think is the moral of the story here

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        • #5
          Re: Are we eating Pork?

          Forget pork, there is an issue with chicken which surprises me. Well i dont know about anywhere else but in the UK the majority of chicken here is stunned. They stunn them on a mass scale. I doubt there is room to say Allahs name.

          Does this mean that they are halal? I dont think so yet we eat them :)

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          • #6
            Re: Are we eating Pork?

            pig manure is often used as a fertilizer, which is transformed in the plant into new chemicals.

            a dead pig in a field will rot away, again providing nutrients for plants to convert into the chemicals it needs.

            diseased pigs that die are burned, releasing gases and leaving ash - both are absorbed by plants.

            the e-numbers are produced by reacting lard with various chemicals to produce new chemicals.


            surely, if you\\\'re happy about eating vegetables, then there\\\'s no difference in eating food that contains e-numbers. It\\\'s impossible to eat something and it not contain some chemical that has come from a pig.

            this is part of the cycle of life, chemicals have been through millions of generations of animals and plants and other chemical processes.

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            • #7
              Re: Are we eating Pork?

              Originally posted by Umar` View Post
              dont eat any e numbers i think is the moral of the story here
              THESE e NUMBERS

              E-904, E-141.
              E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252, E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475, E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542, E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
              -pray:Allahu Akbar

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              • #8
                Re: Are we eating Pork?

                Originally posted by Deena View Post
                i heard that eating swine causes this, got it
                -pray:Allahu Akbar

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                • #9
                  Re: Are we eating Pork?

                  Originally posted by CheifJunior View Post
                  Forget pork, there is an issue with chicken which surprises me. Well i dont know about anywhere else but in the UK the majority of chicken here is stunned. They stunn them on a mass scale. I doubt there is room to say Allahs name.

                  Does this mean that they are halal? I dont think so yet we eat them :)
                  .
                  -pray:Allahu Akbar

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                  • #10
                    Re: Are we eating Pork?

                    C 4 u did u read the entire Article! it is about their fat! oil etc
                    -pray:Allahu Akbar

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                    • #11
                      Re: Are we eating Pork?

                      Originally posted by *Muhammad* View Post
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                      if you care to read instead of going on the blame game. I stated "we" not "i", we as in the whole ummah in the UK. Man do i have to spell things out for people like you?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Are we eating Pork?

                        Is the "Label Suitable for Vegatarians" a lie ?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Are we eating Pork?

                          Originally posted by Abu Noah View Post
                          Is the "Label Suitable for Vegatarians" a lie ?
                          As there doesn't seem to be such a place as Pegal in France the article is more likely to be a lie.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Are we eating Pork?

                            I was suspicious at first about the e-numbers because a lot of them are quite basic chemicals which could be produced by non-animal based methods, but on further investigation, lard does seem to be used as the basis to create these particular e-numbers

                            Shortening is a term which designates a solid fat(lard in this case). The designation which is internationally accepted stems from the fact that fat can and indeed is used in bakery in order to diminish the total volume of finished product (i.e. in order to shorten the pastry). Shortenings are commonly used in industrial baking instead of margarines and they may be manufactured according to a wide series of different specifications, covering a wide variety of applications, as regards their SCI, color and additives.

                            plenty to read:

                            the basis of food additives:
                            http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_.../chemoils.html
                            http://www.advance-scientific.com/Pr...&name=Lard+Oil
                            http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr..._id=61790-49-6
                            http://www.foodproductdesign.com/art...6_631Tech.html

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                            • #15
                              Re: Are we eating Pork?

                              Originally posted by *Muhammad* View Post
                              C 4 u did u read the entire Article! it is about their fat! oil etc
                              yes, i was comparing e-number production from reacting lard oil with various agents to natural chemical reactions that convert pig matter into plant matter.

                              I was suggesting that there was no real difference, ie it is ok for a muslim to eat food containing e-numbers if they feel it is ok to eat vegetables.

                              the article says to avoid the e-numbers because it says they have pig fat in. this isn\'t really true - they are made by various chemical processes, such as reacting the lard with lime, acids and salts to produce new chemicals that don\'t exist in the original pig fat.
                              Last edited by 4 U; 17-11-06, 01:21 PM.

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