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    Anyone celebrate Thanksgiving? If so what do you have in your menu?
    If you don't celebrate Thanksgiving or live in a country that doesn't celebrate it, what would you put on the menu if you did a big Thanksgiving dinner type event?

    Its basically a family dinner except there are set traditional dish most people serve. Each family has their own way & for us immigrants, we end up doing a fusion meal. Last few years I have cooked Turkey, the one time a year we have it, but I am planning on moving away from Turkey this year because no one loves it and the halal Turkey are never small size. The smallest is 17lb and everyone takes tiny bit of it. So I am thinking of replacing it with several whole chicken. Last year we added a whole fish because we are Bengali :D We always have the Briyani & curry on the side along with American food. We switch it up but always fusion of Bengali-American dish.

    what food fusion do you include in your traditional Thanksgiving meal. If you were celebrating Thanksgiving, what type of food fusion would you include

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    What's Thanksgiving? And when/why do you guys celebrate it? 


     

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kya View Post
      Anyone celebrate Thanksgiving? If so what do you have in your menu?
      If you don't celebrate Thanksgiving or live in a country that doesn't celebrate it, what would you put on the menu if you did a big Thanksgiving dinner type event?

      Its basically a family dinner except there are set traditional dish most people serve. Each family has their own way & for us immigrants, we end up doing a fusion meal. Last few years I have cooked Turkey, the one time a year we have it, but I am planning on moving away from Turkey this year because no one loves it and the halal Turkey are never small size. The smallest is 17lb and everyone takes tiny bit of it. So I am thinking of replacing it with several whole chicken. Last year we added a whole fish because we are Bengali :D We always have the Briyani & curry on the side along with American food. We switch it up but always fusion of Bengali-American dish.

      what food fusion do you include in your traditional Thanksgiving meal. If you were celebrating Thanksgiving, what type of food fusion would you include
      Americanized.. Do you guys celebrate Christmas as well?

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      • #4
        Thanksgiving is when white invaders (so called "settlers"- a bit like Israelis in that sense) from Europe massacred millions of native Americans and then gave thanks.  Generations later, people decided to sanitise and white wash the Thanksgiving origin story partly to make it more palatable to the masses and in more recent years, to help commercialise it to make money- it is the American way.

        Anyway the "official" account of Thanksgiving is that when the first English people arrived in America (I think they were Puritans fleeing from England), they believed they could start a new life living a more purer form of a Christian religious lifestyle and it would be their utopia.  Within months though, it became apparent that the different terrain and unfamiliar weather patterns etc, they didn't know how to survive and people began to starve.  Some kind native Americans turned up, helped them out and taught them how to grow corn so that they could feed themselves.  

        ^That account of Thanksgiving is also true, but they leave out the nasty aftermath... which is the fact that over several years as more "settlers" arrived, European governments saw this as a land they could colonise with the help of their people who are already living there (as well as sending more troops from Europe).  They saw that native Americans lived their lives like nomads in tents, tending to livestock and Europeans viewed them as primitive and "heathen" filth because they weren't Christian.  When it became clear the natives didn't want to become Christian or assimilate by allowing the land to completely fall under the control and exploitation of European powers; literally over 100 million natives were massacred.  It was in the aftermath of these massacres that the "Thanks giving" tradition emerged, as the soldiers were told they were performing a blessed duty in wiping out these "primitive" and "unChristian" people from the face of the earth so let's celebrate this with a Thanksgiving feast- a feast which continues to this day usually with Turkey accompanied by cranberry sauce, yams, pumpkin pie etc.  
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        • #5
          We don't celebrate it but I can see this taking off here soon (just like Halloween has).

          Dawath wise, I don't have much to suggest. Not very creative.

          I've slowed down so if I was doing a small dawath (which can wait, it's winter and my back is dead lol) it would be the usual.

          Dawaths during summer or spring are the best.

          I like meat akhni with aloo and prunes. I would make that for the siblings, their partners amd their kids.

          Prepare tandooris, not those horrible burnt and dry ones. I like it nice and succulent so that it could be eaten with the akni.

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          Always have to add salad with purple onions, cucumber, tomatoes, coriander and a little bit of green chillies.

          ​​​​​​I would prepare mango lassi and dessert like, home made strawberry trifle or cheesecake.


          Last edited by Ya'sin; 29-11-19, 12:58 AM.
          'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

          So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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          • #6
            Thanks for sharing that neelu, I am so shocked the way they have covered it all up and made it into this great holiday.

            LOL (not laughing just the disbelief of it all). Savages.

            Reminds me of Pocahontas (Disney animation), the first time when I was introduced to this part of history that people have now forgotten or don't question.

            'you think you own whatever land you land on'- Pochantas (Disney)


            ^ That is so befitting of the West and it's colonial past.
            'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

            So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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            • #7
              Muslims should avoid celebrating this.

              Nowadays we have many "imams" saying it's okay, unfortunately.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                Muslims should avoid celebrating this.

                Nowadays we have many "imams" saying it's okay, unfortunately.
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                Why should Muslim avoid this holiday? It is not a Christian Holiday or based on any religion at all. Muslims are allowed to celebrate and take part in national holidays, as long as it does not have base in kufr origin. Independence day, new year, thanksgiving are not part of any religion. We should talk part in our own history.

                I know sister neelu gave Christian account but coming to USA for early settlers or any immigrants throughout the last 300 years had very little to do with "pure religion" and more to do with religious freedom to follow religion as you see fit instead of being persecuted because you don't follow certain ways of life. Most people are aware & accept the ugly past of American when it comes to Native American and slavery along with many other things. Celebrating Thanksgiving does not mean you deny what happened but rather accept it and its impact on shaping our world even today. This was the day when Native American and Early settlers looked pass their differences and had a dinner together to become friends. Of course the next morning the European settlers attacked these kind hearted Native American. Hence we have Thanksgiving followed by Black Friday shopping, staying true to the history.

                Its less about history and more about getting together with family and friends because everyone has the day off.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kya View Post

                  Why should Muslim avoid this holiday? It is not a Christian Holiday or based on any religion at all. Muslims are allowed to celebrate and take part in national holidays, as long as it does not have base in kufr origin. Independence day, new year, thanksgiving are not part of any religion. We should talk part in our own history.

                  I know sister neelu gave Christian account but coming to USA for early settlers or any immigrants throughout the last 300 years had very little to do with "pure religion" and more to do with religious freedom to follow religion as you see fit instead of being persecuted because you don't follow certain ways of life. Most people are aware & accept the ugly past of American when it comes to Native American and slavery along with many other things. Celebrating Thanksgiving does not mean you deny what happened but rather accept it and its impact on shaping our world even today. This was the day when Native American and Early settlers looked pass their differences and had a dinner together to become friends. Of course the next morning the European settlers attacked these kind hearted Native American. Hence we have Thanksgiving followed by Black Friday shopping, staying true to the history.

                  Its less about history and more about getting together with family and friends because everyone has the day off.
                  Imitation of the disbelievers.

                  What do you think is safer for your imaan? To celebrate it or to avoid it?
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                  We shouldn't follow our desires in these things.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post

                    Imitation of the disbelievers.

                    What do you think is safer for your imaan? To celebrate it or to avoid it?
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                    We shouldn't follow our desires in these things.
                    I feel it is safer/better for my Imam to celebrate secular & Islamic holidays with friends and family which not only increases our bond with each other and gives us barakah in sharing food. But also helps us become better human as we listen to others stories of goals, aspirations & struggles. It is good to get together instead of living in silos. It is also good to celebrate heritage, all heritage and not just Middle Eastern. Islam came to the entire world & not just to single group of people who all celebrate the same holidays and have same history.

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                    • #11
                      If i had to participate in these things i would make it clear i disagree and then join in. That's what i do. Half hearted
                       
                      Last edited by usernametaken; 02-12-19, 07:45 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kya View Post

                        I feel it is safer/better for my Imam to celebrate secular & Islamic holidays with friends and family which not only increases our bond with each other and gives us barakah in sharing food. But also helps us become better human as we listen to others stories of goals, aspirations & struggles. It is good to get together instead of living in silos. It is also good to celebrate heritage, all heritage and not just Middle Eastern. Islam came to the entire world & not just to single group of people who all celebrate the same holidays and have same history.
                        You can do all of that without attaching it to Thanksgiving. These are just excuses.

                        And Islam is meant to destroy secularism, not accommodate it.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post

                          You can do all of that without attaching it to Thanksgiving. These are just excuses.

                          And Islam is meant to destroy secularism, not accommodate it.
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                          Islam has been made easy on its believers. We should not make it more difficult and we should not make things haram for us just because we don't understand it. Islam emphasizes that we live a balanced life fulfilling our obligations to Allah as well as our obligations towards people and even our own selves, which includes secular holidays that does not go against Islam. I can understand for non-Americans how Thanksgiving or 4th of July might be strange holidays to celebrate hence these are national holidays. If it was religious holiday, it would be globally celebrated. If you choose not to celebrate, that's your decision. Its Thanksgiving, a day to be thankful for everything you have been blessed with, you can't find a nicer secular holiday than that.

                          One can not do all those (gatherings) without attaching Thanksgiving to it because no other holiday has 2 days off for almost EVERYONE. Even Christmas does not have 2 days off.

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                          • #14
                            Back to the original topic, I had a great Thanksgiving with 3 parties to attend. Could have been 4 but my little brother came home on Thursday evening, so actual Thanksgiving was spent cooking and some cyber shopping. Friday had housewarming/Thanksgiving, Saturday was my friends annual Friendsgiving which she has been hosting for last 4 years and getting good at it, and Sunday was another gathering at my cousin inlaws house who did not make any traditional Thanksgiving food but rather had desi food.

                            My favorite this weekend was butternut squash stuffing with pumpkin seeds and turkey beacon (halal) - I need to get my friends recipe for this

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                            • #15
                              I wanna attend a Friendsgiving and enjoy a potluck. Need to make more American friends..
                              Pray. Fast. Zakat. Pilgrimage. Allah.

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