Where are u from?

[angelgirl101]

Just wondering what area of the world you're from.

Wasalam

[Strategist]

Originally posted by demongirl101
Just wondering what area of the world you're from.

Wasalam

We could begin with thyself O Demongirl between the four walls!

[EVILution]

I'm in leeds.......so I click on europe, yes?

[muawiyah]

I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

[Sultan]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

Since did racial pride have a place in Islam?

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.

From the Prophet's (SAW) Last Sermon.

[Raven]

Southwest area in Great Shaytan Land.

[Strategist]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

In that case, did you know that Muhammad bin Abu Bakr was a *Rafidhi?* Imam Ali (as) said of him:

"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr"

He was captured by the rebel Muawiyah's troops enroute to take up the governorship of Misr- Egypt during Ali's Khilafa and burnt alive wrapped in donkey skin by Muawiyah.

And pure Arabic blood ran through his veins too.

[Strategist]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

In that case, did you know that Muhammad bin Abu Bakr was a *Rafidhi?* Imam Ali (as) said of him:

"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr"

He was captured by the rebel Muawiyah's troops enroute to take up the governorship of Misr- Egypt during Ali's Khilafa and burnt alive wrapped in donkey skin by Muawiyah.

And pure Arabic blood ran through his veins too. What a terrible shame that Muawiyah the Ommayad did not show any respect!

[Strategist]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

In that case, did you know that Muhammad bin Abu Bakr was a *Rafidhi?* Imam Ali (as) said of him:

"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr"

He was captured by the rebel Muawiyah's troops enroute to take up the governorship of Egypt during Imam Ali's reign as the Caliph. He was burnt alive wrapped in donkey skin by Muawiyah.

Pure Arabic blood ran through his veins too!!! What a terrible shame that Muawiyah the Ommayad did not show any respect.

[muawiyah]

firstly sultan i did not wish to make racial pride. i see any non arab muslim as my brother and wish for him the same thing i wish for my ownself. and if u feel offended please let me so that i could remove that term

to you strat.
muhammad ibn abi bakr was criminal. He was not a Sahabi. as he was only 6 months old when the prophet passed away. this person alongwith the notorious malik ushtur martyred the pious Caliph Uthman ibn Affan(may allah be pleased with him). I support what Ameerul momineen Muawiyyah(may allah be pleased with him) did to this mischeif monger as he implemented Qisas. furthermore bring me the proof that Ali said,"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr."

[Strategist]

Originally posted by muawiyah

.......

to you strat.
muhammad ibn abi bakr was criminal. He was not a Sahabi. as he was only 6 months old when the prophet passed away. this person alongwith the notorious malik ushtur martyred the pious Caliph Uthman ibn Affan(may allah be pleased with him). I support what Ameerul momineen Muawiyyah(may allah be pleased with him) did to this mischeif monger as he implemented Qisas. furthermore bring me the proof that Ali said,"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr."

Glad to know that you know who actually killed Uthman bin Affan.
Malik Al Ashtar was the commander in Chief of Ali's army. In the battle of Siffin, Malik was almost within reach of Muawiyah's tent, when Muawiyah and Amr bin Aas panicked and raised the slogan: Let the Quran be the arbitrator- and raised copies of the Holy book on spears to call for a *ceasefire*( to use a present day term)

Imam Ali(as) said of Malik:

***Malik is to me what I was to the Prophet***

Muawiyah rebelled against Ali and waged war against the Caliph-who even the general Ummah considers to be the Khilifa ar Rashid- the rightly guided Caliph, on the rouse of bringing to justice the murderers of Uthman bin Affan.

Ali not only did not take any action against either Muhammad bin Abu Bakr or Malik al Ashter, but rather had them around him in his close circle of friends and appointed them both the governor of Egypt. (Ali's judgement is spoken of by the Prophet himself in his universally accepted hadith: Ali is with the truth and truth is with Ali).Both these associates of Ali were assassinated by Muawiyah. Muhammad was burnt alive and Malik was poisoned by deceit.

That Imam Ali said 'Muhammad is my son, though born of Abu Bakr' is widely recorded in books of history. It is not something unknown. Make an effort and you will easily find a source.

[FingersOnline]

Salams

My brother Muawiyah where are you in Hejaz. Iam also living in Arabian Peninsula since childhood but iam not an arab. Please tell me where in Hejaz- we can meet each other I mean

Thanks

Strait:

Please, you are out of topic, we are not here to discuss the same topic again and again. we have sect forum to discuss these.

[Mu'minah]

am from canada

[.: Anna :.]

i'm from Grimsby, Uk, Europe

[seven]

i went to india once... some ppl used to ask me where i was from... when i said "england" or "UK" they were like "huh?"

then when i said "london" they were like "ooohhhhh london!"

[Pashtun Baba]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

You can be from Arabian Peninsula or descendent of Abu Bakr and a pure arabic blood I have no problem with but how can you be of afghan descent as you had claimed in one of your thread (as far as I remember in "Introduce yourself").

You can be either of Afghan or Arab blood; if you claim you are both then your blood must be contaminated with two races. It's therefore better you stick to muslim culture which is all encompassing, otherwise you sound very racist plus there is no such thing as a pure blood lineage, its just a relative term which can only be applied to few generations backward and forward! People of all cultures and races have always been mixing with each other especially among muslims as Islam is not a racist religion and encourages various Muslim ethnico-cultural entities for inter-ethnic and intra-ethnic marriages. Even Imam Abu Hanifa was AFGHAN - though afghanistan did not exist at that time!

No offence was sought in my few lines!

[Pashtun Baba]

I am from Afghanistan and a Pashtoon!

[Pashtun Baba]

Originally posted by muawiyah
firstly sultan i did not wish to make racial pride. i see any non arab muslim as my brother and wish for him the same thing i wish for my ownself. and if u feel offended please let me so that i could remove that term

to you strat.
muhammad ibn abi bakr was criminal. He was not a Sahabi. as he was only 6 months old when the prophet passed away. this person alongwith the notorious malik ushtur martyred the pious Caliph Uthman ibn Affan(may allah be pleased with him). I support what Ameerul momineen Muawiyyah(may allah be pleased with him) did to this mischeif monger as he implemented Qisas. furthermore bring me the proof that Ali said,"Muhammad is my son, though born to Abu Bakr."

First clarify: Are you of Afghan descent (as you had claimed elsewhere) or Arab?

If Afghan: Are you Uzbek, Tajik, Hazara, Turkman, Nooristani, Baloch or Pashtoon,

And if Arab: then arabs themselves over centuries have been metamorphosed culturally and ethnically - with Turks, Mongols (after mongol invasion), Fars (persian rule and vice versa), Romans, Egyptians (Ancient Egyptians were not arabs), Syrians (ancient syrians were not arabs), Spanish influence as a result of Muslim rule over Spain for almost 700 years and subsequent cross-breeding and African ethnic cross-breeding! We can't ignore the influence of Judo-Christian cultures!

One can argue concretely in the favour of mixed races and how they evolve - a very dynamic process and is all the time happening. But to argue in the favour of PURE BLOOD THEORY! Oh even Nazis failed to show us any pure race!

The best would be if we talk in terms of our cultures not race/blood as we are defined properly by our cultures then blood!

When I say I'm Pashtoon I don't insist on its blood-line connection I rather insist on cultural aspects - language, common religion market and geography - which are evident and self-explanatory! With regards to my grand, grand, grand, ....grand ffathers may be I'm Pashtoon but with regards to my grand, grand, ....grand mothers I'm not sure of their racial/ethnic origin. Therefore, I can't say I'm one hundred percent Pashtoon by blood!

In India, Iran and Pakistan even in Afghanistan, Over centuries lots of Pashtoon have lost their ethnicity and cultures and they have become Panjabis/Tajiks etc. In Pakistan, Niazis, some Durranis and Tareens are the best example of lost Pashtoons in the Punjab province of Pakistan and in Afghanistan lots of Pashtoons in Herat and northern areas even in Kabul have lost their ethnic identies and in Mashad (Iran) loads of Pashtoons lost their culture and ethnicity!

I hope these example would clarify my point!

[guile]

i'm from france (europe).

i've got family in italy too (actually more than in france), and also fathers from spain and maghreb.

so to follow the discussion who started on this thread:
i've got no pure arabic blood running in my veins at all... but pure faith in my heart and soul!!!

peace,
guile

[Ali_Khan]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

Assalaam Alekum. Nice to meet you bro I am a direct desendent of Abu Bakr Siddiqh. However I would cut down on the "pure" arabic blood thingy. There are munafiqs and kafirs with pure arabic blood and u really dont want to be associated with them.

[muawiyah]

Originally posted by muawiyah
I'm from the Arabian peninsula, from the blessed land of hejaz, a
descendent of Abu Bakr as Siddiq and a pure arabic blood runs in my veins.

This a very very old comment i made, i guess around 2 years back. I didnt meant anything racist and my intention by pure arabic blood was that i have the blood of the family of abu bakr in my veins . I apologize very much for my inappropriate wording, [whose apparent meaning i did not meant] I really feel ashamed of it, please dont be offended. I am against all sorts of inequality,injustice, and discrimination based on matters of race, and blood.All the muslim are one people, and are descendents of the same parents and there is no difference b/w an arab or a non arab. I ask the moderators to please edit that part of my post,
May God bless you all dear brothers and sisters.
Wasalaam

[Huja Usman]

Originally posted by muawiyah

Wasalaam

The forum have missed you akhi.

And You held a great talk on the rafidah akhi "amir-muawiyah".

[muawiyah]

i missed you also bro hujja, and other bros like abunajm, GenN, AliKhan, Umar ibn al khattab, AbuMubarak and others. May god bless all of you.

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

I'm from Chittagong, Bangladesh .......... I have no pure Arab blood in my veins, but my blood was given to me and created by Allah (SWT), the Lord of the Worlds, and I can see no bigger honour than that ....

[mellowmoose]

london



fair trade palestinian olive oil

[Lateafha]

Originally posted by Tahsin
my blood was given to me and created by Allah (SWT), the Lord of the Worlds, and I can see no bigger honour than that ....

Indeed Brother, wow that was so beautifuly said MashaAllah Tahsin..

I have all these in me, Somali/European(italian) /Jewish/ Arab/.

I used to be ashamed of myself one time of the fact that I have one certain blood in me , you can guess which one that is, But alhamdulilah I am not anymore. I admit that I still feel ashamed sometimes too.

Allah is the hakeem.

[JiHaD_JoE]

Originally posted by Intuition
I admit that I still feel ashamed sometimes too.

Allah is the hakeem.

well you shouldnt be cause someone's religon doesnt make an ethnicity, the "Jewish blood" you talk about isnt Jewish, it is the ethicity the person was, just think of that when you are ashamed

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

Originally posted by Intuition
Indeed Brother, wow that was so beautifuly said MashaAllah Tahsin..

I have all these in me, Somali/European(italian) /Jewish/ Arab/.

I used to be ashamed of myself one time of the fact that I have one certain blood in me , you can guess which one that is, But alhamdulilah I am not anymore. I admit that I still feel ashamed sometimes too.

Allah is the hakeem.

Thanks Intuition, I only learnt everything I said from my Lord (SWT) and His Noble Prophet (MPUH), who often emphasized on equality and suffered all his life to it, so we must follow his perfect example !

It does'nt matter whether you're Jewish or not, good sister, for before my ascending grandparents converted to Islam (that was something like 600/700 years ago, I'm sure they were one of the first converts in Bengal, my grandfather did some research ), they were all probably Hindu or polytheists.... just like the Sahabas were before turing Muslimeen ...... and as the Prophet said many times, it's the faith and belief inside what counts

[frank chu]

I don't think anyone should be ashamed nor proud of their ethnicity. They had nothing to do with it.

[Ali_Khan]

Originally posted by Intuition
I used to be ashamed of myself one time of the fact that I have one certain blood in me , you can guess which one that is, But alhamdulilah I am not anymore. I admit that I still feel ashamed sometimes too.

nonsence. Nothing wrong with a bit of jewish blood, we are all sons of Adam.

[Mary Carol]

Originally posted by frank chu
I don't think anyone should be ashamed nor proud of their ethnicity. They had nothing to do with it.

And such pride only divides humanity.

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

The thing Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) so empathically taught Muslims so many times......... I just love the story about Bilal (RA)'s appointment as the first Muezzin of Islam, may we all learn from the magnificent modesty and compassion by the Slave of Allah, Mustafa (SAWS).......................................

[Kaiser]

People should focus on what they have in common, instead of what they have different.

For one thing, focusing on the differences will only create dislike and hate between them, even tho the difference is minor and similarities are major.

[Survivor]

me fron uk

[reyaah_annasr]

Bilad Al Baraabirah

[yunir]

wow, a revived thread thts been sleeping for over a year!
hhee, ok, i'll join in......

I'm from Asia.......

my blood?
B+

[*IslamicGirl*]

I selected Asian when I'm from the UK

Feel half asleep today

[Bostik]

I'm from England

[DUALEH]

Indeed Brother, wow that was so beautifuly said MashaAllah Tahsin..

I have all these in me, Somali/European(italian) /Jewish/ Arab/.

I used to be ashamed of myself one time of the fact that I have one certain blood in me , you can guess which one that is, But alhamdulilah I am not anymore. I admit that I still feel ashamed sometimes too.

Allah is the hakeem.

Asalamu alykum
could someone clarify this for me please. If someone says he is jewish or muslims or christain, this refer to the religion but i have noticed people say i'm jew as a race. I'm kidda confused about this becuase the children of isreal are the race right and they believe in jewdaism. Could some make this clear to me.
So for instance the prophets like Ayub, isa, musa and all the other decendants of Ishaq are called the children of isreal, but they didn't believe in jewdaism, even though they were from the children of isreal. So to the quote above people saying i have jewish blood in me, should rather say i have the blood of the children of isreal. I hope i haven't confused anyone. So nothing to be ashamed about, cos at end of the day if you were black, yellow, white, brown what not, that won't avail you in front of Allah, believe in Allah will.

Anyways someone please make this clear and the information i gave above is what i think, which could be wrong.
Thanks
wasalamu alykum

[ag88]

Europe, and more specifically Scotland. So yeah, we are basically better than all you English ****bags [/JOKE]