For all u OBL haters
Salaam,
Heard on the Pakistani news that Obl's leadership of Al Qaeda has been given to his oldest son, Mohammad Saad, 20!
The command was only to be given when OBL himself is either martyred or seriously ill.............This is scaring me completely but may Allah grant him shaheed, Jannat ul Firdous, Ameen!!!
Waslaam.
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Today, I heard on the news that India are claiming that OBL is in Pakistan.
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ahhhhh, Pakistan in Azad Kashmir in my house, sigh!Originally posted by demongirl101
Today, I heard on the news that India are claiming that OBL is in Pakistan.
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There have been sightings of Elvis Presley since 1977 all over the world.
When I see a video with a current newspaper being held I might believe that both are still around.
I'm not from Missouri but SHOW ME.
LOL
P
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I hope he will see the error of his father's ways, and cause the Al Qaeda to stop their activities against innocent American civilians (if they haven't already stopped - they haven't done much in that regard since last September).Originally posted by muslim youth
Salaam,
Heard on the Pakistani news that Obl's leadership of Al Qaeda has been given to his oldest son, Mohammad Saad, 20!
Little_Acorn, long time no hear...how u been?
Now about the topic, if I held a gun to ur head, would u let me shoot u or would u try to defend urself..doesn't matter, Islam allows one to defend him/herself and that is what Al-Qaeda and OBL were doing against the USA's war on terror campaign! Now if the USA stop their terror, in my opinion the Al Qaeda network should stop on their behalf too!
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Who threw the first stone?Originally posted by muslim youth
Little_Acorn, long time no hear...how u been?
Now about the topic, if I held a gun to ur head, would u let me shoot u or would u try to defend urself..doesn't matter, Islam allows one to defend him/herself and that is what Al-Qaeda and OBL were doing against the USA's war on terror campaign! Now if the USA stop their terror, in my opinion the Al Qaeda network should stop on their behalf too!
1993--WTC
90's -- two embassies
2000---USS COLE
2001---WTC, Penegon
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Wow! Doesn't that statement just fill you to the brim with confidence in the youth of the world!!Originally posted by muslim youth
Islam allows one to defend him/herself and that is what Al-Qaeda and OBL were doing against the USA's war on terror campaign!
(hardly)
AoA Youth sis and Muslimeen / Peace to peaceful others,
I hope it isn't true.
If it is, it's Allah's Will. May He ASWT grant him Jannat al Firdaus for his martyrdom.
And death will never erase the love Muslims have for him and other Freedom Fighters of the Ummah all over the world anyways. His message is sealed in the hearts of millions from every nation and race. That will never die, no matter what the enemies of Muslims do.
And I suppose that is one half of the evidence that Bushy Boy managed to gather to show all the other countries, except the country that asked for it in the first place, yikes!Originally posted by Peter J. Malloy
Who threw the first stone?
1993--WTC
90's -- two embassies
2000---USS COLE
2001---WTC, Penegon
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Wa'alaikum Aslaam sis,Originally posted by Bilquis
AoA Youth sis and Muslimeen / Peace to peaceful others,
I hope it isn't true.
If it is, it's Allah's Will. May He ASWT grant him Jannat al Firdaus for his martyrdom.
And death will never erase the love Muslims have for him and other Freedom Fighters of the Ummah all over the world anyways. His message is sealed in the hearts of millions from every nation and race. That will never die, no matter what the enemies of Muslims do.
I know how u feel, whenever I think that he is no longer with us I feel sad, but then again he is one who deserves the virtue of martyrdom none less in a world of temptations.
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Rajioon!
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You're right, Bilquis. There is simply too much hatred in the world.Originally posted by Bilquis
His message is sealed in the hearts of millions from every nation and race.
Yeah and the other half was provided by OBL and other Al Qeada members in the form of written and Video tape confessions !Originally posted by muslim youth
And I suppose that is one half of the evidence that Bushy Boy managed to gather to show all the other countries, except the country that asked for it in the first place, yikes!
[Edited]Originally posted by Little_Acorn
I hope he will see the error of his father's ways, and cause the Al Qaeda to stop their activities against innocent American civilians (if they haven't already stopped - they haven't done much in that regard since last September).
Last edited by Noor; 01-08-02 at 07:07 PM.
AmusedII I wouldn't write that, cos ur not the All-Knower, who has knowledge of the seen and the unseen, Allah has and he is the best judge, so plz leave this matter to him![i][Edited][/B]
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I can recognise OBL by a mile and the only tape that shows OBL confessing is the video which Bush released, and I don't know how it's fooled many including muslim leaders (threats of nuking them down if they say the truthOriginally posted by AmusedII
Yeah and the other half was provided by OBL and other Al Qeada members in the form of written and Video tape confessions !) but itcertainly didn't fool me, bro!
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So the two year olds on 9/11 DESERVED to die.Originally posted by muslim youth
And I suppose that is one half of the evidence that Bushy Boy managed to gather to show all the other countries, except the country that asked for it in the first place, yikes!
My religion says to love your enemies.
Love those that persecute you.
So young to have so much anger MY.
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Sure if at the same time you and others stop threating non Muslims with burning in Hell.Originally posted by muslim youth
AmusedII I wouldn't write that, cos ur not the All-Knower, who has knowledge of the seen and the unseen, Allah has and he is the best judge, so plz leave this matter to him!
No civilian deserves to die Peter but no-one can change what Allah has in store for us, not even America!Originally posted by Peter J. Malloy
So the two year olds on 9/11 DESERVED to die.
My religion says to love your enemies.
Love those that persecute you.
So young to have so much anger MY.
I'm not angry Peter, I'm just explaining myself!
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But I only want to help u, I want to help u be my true brother....and accept Islam, look how it's changed brother Abdul Haq!Originally posted by AmusedII
Sure if at the same time you and others stop threating non Muslims with burning in Hell.
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M Y, I sincerely thank you for caringOriginally posted by muslim youth
But I only want to help u, I want to help u be my true brother....and accept Islam, look how it's changed brother Abdul Haq!
Originally posted by muslim youth
But I only want to help u, I want to help u be my true brother....and accept Islam, look how it's changed brother Abdul Haq!
Now after a zillion posts this is the first time we have heard this.
Not being mean or critical but why not say it this way first and not incite a roit by typing all the other stuff?
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so when r u going to reward me for caring and say the most beautiful words of the world the shahadah!Originally posted by AmusedII
M Y, I sincerely thank you for caring
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Ahhh, me and AmusedII know each other well, the other stuff is not to be taken to heart, we both know that......I think?Originally posted by Peter J. Malloy
Now after a zillion posts this is the first time we have heard this.
Not being mean or critical but why not say it this way first and not incite a roit by typing all the other stuff?
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Can't answer that right now M Y. To be honest I am happy with my religion (Christian).Originally posted by muslim youth
so when r u going to reward me for caring and say the most beautiful words of the world the shahadah!
I am learning more and more about Islam so who knows ???
cool, no pressure on u man.......but InshaAllah I hope u see the light b4 it's too late!Originally posted by AmusedII
Can't answer that right now M Y. To be honest I am happy with my religion (Christian).
I am learning more and more about Islam so who knows ???
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Originally posted by muslim youth
cool, no pressure on u man.......but InshaAllah I hope u see the light b4 it's too late!
hmmmmmmm......or maybe I'll bug u until u DO convert
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"Wa'alaikum Aslaam sis,
I know how u feel, whenever I think that he is no longer with us I feel sad, but then again he is one who deserves the virtue of martyrdom none less in a world of temptations.
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Rajioon!"
Can't disagree with ya there Youth sis
But we should never be disheartened. As Dubbya Shrub knows, the world is teeming with countless beautiful Usamas and Shrub's actions have only accelerated that process. So brother BL is a winner in the end either way I.S.
Yep, to God (ASWT) we belong and to Him (ASWT) we shall return. All of us and everything.
"You're right, Bilquis. There is simply too much hatred in the world."
Ah, darling Mr. Chaotic's playing with words again.
No, actually, that's not what I meant but then you Amreekans do live in another world...
I completely dumbfounded and baffled on why some Muslim continue to praise OBL was some Heroic freedom fighter like that of Saladin. I mean He doesn’t even fellow the rules of war under Islamic law and his a whabbist, which I believe is an insult to Islam.
I am sorry but I just don't understand why soo many people like praise this guy!!!!what exactly has he DONE for ISlam?????????Has he donated money to many mosques around the world????Does he help build schools for children??Does he use his family's great wealth to help repair and build roads and bridges and buildings in some of the poorer countries where there are alot of muslim citizens???Does he use his so called great knowledge and appreciation for Islam and hold world wide seminars and lectures to teach people about the greatness of Islam???All I've seen him do was kill African people in an Embassy...German tourists in a synogogue and stockbrokers and flight attendants in the US.How in the world does that make him the big hero for Islam and God???????Please some one explain this to me.
how does he deserve to be a martyr????For killing innocent people who were in no way attacking him or Islam or God for that matter?????I guess this will just continue to be one of the great mysteries of the world
AM---do you have post 9/11 syndrome being that close to NYC...Originally posted by AnnaMarie
how does he deserve to be a martyr????For killing innocent people who were in no way attacking him or Islam or God for that matter?????I guess this will just continue to be one of the great mysteries of the world
My dreams have stopped. My anti=depressant had to be changed after 9/11 because of the nightmares.
My cousin sat on her roof and watched the whole thing unfold and a school chum was in WTC building facing Tower #1
I can only imagine what you felt.
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Originally posted by AnnaMarie
how does he deserve to be a martyr????For killing innocent people who were in no way attacking him or Islam or God for that matter?????I guess this will just continue to be one of the great mysteries of the world
Listen, not all of us Muslims praise OBL, [Edited-Allah is judge not you]
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yeah it sucked!!!I used to go to NYC every weekend and it suckes not seeing the Towers and knowing what happened.Plus what made it worse was that on Sept. 7th my economics class had a feild trip to the WTC to visit people in Meryll Lynch.We got lunch at Windows on the World and everything.Well it makes you feel better when you know that all those people are in a better place and that there killers are in a prison getting the punishment they couldn't have gotten if they lived.Well my heart goes out to people all over the world that have to die a needless death especially in the Middle east.That sucks.
My cousin and her husband are in the ministry and not only did they have to deal with what they saw, but those in the church.
Her best friend was sick that day and didn't go to work........
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One of my favorite pasttimes, Bilquis. It isn't often that I catch you "off guard", so I've gotta take the opportunity when it presents itselfOriginally posted by Bilquis
Ah, darling Mr. Chaotic's playing with words again.
Still luv ya like a sister, though.
Originally posted by muslim youth
Little_Acorn, long time no hear...how u been?
Pretty busy... little one wasn't feeling good today, so no school (it wasn't a dodge, he actually likes school!).
What happened to your U.S. trip? Still on? Already completed? ...?
Now about the topic, if I held a gun to ur head, would u let me shoot u or would u try to defend urself..
Well, I think you and I both know that's not a very good comparison. The U.S. had not attacked bin Laden in any way before he started trying to blow up the WTC (1993), embassies, warships etc. In fact, we supported him and others against the Russians in the 1980s. After he started killing our people who had not attacked him, though, naturally we came after him. As you said, Islam does permit one to defend one's self from attack.
Your point does raise an interesting question, though, one which I honestly don't know the answer. Please do not take offense if I'm out of line here. But if a person has committed a terrible crime, such as the murder of innocents, does Islam permit him to "defend himself" against those carrying out a legitimate punishment against him for his crime? Of course Islam forbids the crime of murder. But once a criminal commits that crime anyway, what does it say about his actions afterward?
"AM---do you have post 9/11 syndrome being that close to NYC...
My dreams have stopped. My anti=depressant had to be changed after 9/11 because of the nightmares.
My cousin sat on her roof and watched the whole thing unfold and a school chum was in WTC building facing Tower #1
I can only imagine what you felt."
alot of muslims dont like what usama is, but you have to keep in mind that what happend in new york happens to muslims all the time, and most of the time it would not be able to happen without the help of the US. thats why some muslims will take any one for a hero out of desperation.
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